The official Champion Data rankings – a.k.a. Super Coach points – for the 2009 NAB Challenge are out.
The link to the Microsoft Excel file is here. For those of you who haven’t got a way to read Excel files, may I recommend a little site I know of called Google.
These are the highlights for me from a rough perusal:
‣ Concerns about Brent Reilly‘s SC credentials should be shelved after his first three scores.
‣ Brisbane’s explosion in DT scores has not necessarily resulted in a similar increase in SC scores across the board.
‣ Daniel Rich is safe as houses as a SC starter.
‣ Lachie Henderson is worth serious consideration as a starter in SC.
‣ Brendan Fevola is an SC specialist.
‣ Chris Johnson is not.
‣ Mitch Robinson looks the best of the Blue kids.
‣ Dayne Beams is another SC specialist (and not bad in DT either).
‣ Ben Reid is not this year’s Nathan J. Brown.
‣ Hayden Skipworth‘s outside game doesn’t overly hurt his SC scoring.
‣ Paul Hasleby is a lock.
‣ Greg Broughton is just about starter material on these numbers.
‣ Stephen Hill has a game that is perhaps too outside for full value in SC.
‣ There is no new Harry Taylor in the new crop of Geelong youngsters.
‣ Travis Tuck‘s turnover count is not hurting his SC scoring due to the highly inside nature of his possessions.
‣ Brendan Whitecross pales in comparison to Matt Suckling in SC.
‣ None of the Demon rucks are startable.
‣ It’s a huge shame for SC that Jack Grimes got injured.
‣ Kyle Cheney is worth a look.
‣ Liam Anthony is an SC monster.
‣ Jack Ziebell is an SC pussy cat.
‣ The Power midfield share around big SC days like blunts at a hippie party.
‣ Shane Tuck is going to be a keeper smokie, especially if Nathan Foley misses games early.
‣ You won’t be disappointed by Brett Deledio.
‣ Andrew Raines is going to have to rack up 20+ touches a game to be truly worthwhile, but he can do it.
‣ Farren Ray is going to have some solid scores in the Saints backline.
‣ Zac Dawson just doesn’t do enough.
‣ Adam Goodes and Ryan O’Keefe are still very much in the SC premium conversation.
‣ Doesn’t look like a year to have any Eagles in SC.
‣ Shaun Higgins is just as much a lock in SC as DT, perhaps more.
jayz
March 24, 2009 at 5:33 pm
do recent articles and comments now mean i should choose Greg Broughton over suban – which is likely to get more games for freo?
korza
March 24, 2009 at 5:41 pm
WOW… Thanks Monty,great break down.
PS: I’m still waitng for my prayer….
jayz
March 24, 2009 at 5:41 pm
and i have to pick one of ziebell and anthony for dt
hairy
March 24, 2009 at 5:48 pm
you give away all the juicy secrets i hate this web site i do the research by watching the games then this comes out and you go and tell every one who to pick. your taking all the skill of super coach out of it and letting the people that have never played a game of footy get all the inside info.
Dazz
March 24, 2009 at 5:50 pm
also interested in broughton. has he been prooted to the senior list? and out of him, petrenko and dawson which 2 should i have as my emergencies?
peter.g
March 24, 2009 at 5:52 pm
how do you think people find this website hairy? by doing research, its how i found it.
james
March 24, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Dazz i think dawson is probably the one to leave out, i am but others will probably differ
L.MAC
March 24, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Must have missed something why will Foley miss games early???
Other Dan
March 24, 2009 at 6:05 pm
WOW MONTY! You are my hero. I was lamenting yesterday the lack of SC stats. Thank you so much.
hairy – It’s just going to get worse, your competitors are getting better and more informed. Just think of the extra satisfaction of actually winning these tougher competitions.
Dan
March 24, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Here you go korza:
Our DT Father, which art in DT Heaven
Hallowed be thy Team Name
Thy DT kingdom come
Thy team will be done [by lockout], in earth as it is in DT heaven
Give us this day our daily points
And forgive us our sleding, as we forgive them that sledge against us
And lead us not into trading temptation
But deliver us from Laidley’s evil
For thine is the DT kingdom, and the DT power, and the DT glory, for ever and ever. Amen.
Ash
March 24, 2009 at 6:23 pm
These stats came out a few days ago on superfooty. Broughton over Suban. Ziebell or Anthony. I wish Laidley would play them both all season.
korza
March 24, 2009 at 6:28 pm
DAN..God bless you my father, for you have given me your blessing.May stones rain on Laidleys head if he is to sin.AMEN
Jesse
March 24, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Whats the deal with tippet and stevens from adelaide. both fairly cheap and averaged over 100 for the pre season. will they be good?
steve
March 24, 2009 at 6:36 pm
No Eagles hey Monty !! M.Brown Kerr Cox just to name a few !!!!! please explain ??
Shane Tuck
March 24, 2009 at 6:39 pm
I’ll be useless this year. Don’t get me!
Hendo
March 24, 2009 at 6:47 pm
This is brilliant Monty
Will help a lot over the next 2 days when making my final changes
Disappointed by Cloke and Thomas’ scores
Tonche
March 24, 2009 at 6:56 pm
How good is Wells with no tag?
hairy
March 24, 2009 at 6:57 pm
it just gives the nerds a to good head start i think. i also think monty sends some of them down the wrong track which is a bonus also.
bluebaggas
March 24, 2009 at 7:23 pm
adelaide obviously versed some pretty crap teams in thier nab challenge matches
The Real Simon
March 24, 2009 at 7:44 pm
There’s still so much more to doing well in DT/SC that just knowing the stats.
Judd and Coxy
March 24, 2009 at 7:53 pm
We’ve had really bad preseasons. Not worth the cash:)
james
March 24, 2009 at 8:20 pm
monty andrew raines only played a half in round 3 ….. he’s raring to go trust me.
CC
March 24, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Very unimpressed with Veszpremi
jayz
March 24, 2009 at 9:10 pm
out of N Krakouer, C yarran, W Thompson and T Walker who should i remove to upgrade to a mid priced forward? am open to any suggestion.
bluebaggas
March 24, 2009 at 9:19 pm
yarran needs a few weeks in the VFL before he will even get 1 AFL game
not sure if thompson is even off the rookie list yet
so id go yarran then thompson
fryzie
March 24, 2009 at 9:20 pm
CC – probably a good thing, he’s injured.
jayz – Thompson hasn’t even been elevated off the rookie list has he?
jayz
March 24, 2009 at 9:22 pm
good thing i asked then
Taylor W.
March 24, 2009 at 9:24 pm
I’m your man JayZ
Josh
March 24, 2009 at 9:28 pm
What do you mean by, Ben reid will not be this years Nathan brown? as in he will not get a game orr he will score better/worse?
Ads
March 24, 2009 at 9:47 pm
LOL @ Shane Tuck
Nathan
March 24, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I love you m0nty.
Cam
March 24, 2009 at 10:07 pm
@hairy – this is why DT and supercoach will die a slow death soon and the fantasy games like Ultimate Footy will rise and become the mainstream. It’s makes so much more sense (a a whole lot more fun) having a proper draft.
DT and SC are almost a game of luck these days. Not much skill to it with all the free information like this out there. I guarantee most people wouldn’t know what any of these rookies looked like.
Bomber
March 24, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Anyone else noticed the form of Nathan Krakouer in the pre-season? Avg 95 over four pre-season games is pretty good. Especially considering he’s $217k!
Anyone else picking him up?
Simonoz
March 24, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Looking for info on two players –
* Wade Thompson playing very well, but still not elevated into that one vacant spot at Port? Why not…..
* Suckling, Hawks…..elevated, played well….has he passed Whitecross ?
Tks
Nick
March 24, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Thompson hasnt been upgraded yet because he prob wont play, I think port will stick with Gray for a little bit.
Simonoz
March 24, 2009 at 10:39 pm
One last bit – Mitch Robinson is starting to bother me…..only played 1 3/4 games in NAB, he’s been talked up a storm so theres a lot of smoke….but where is the fire?
Beams – played much better in NAB, yet maybe no room at the Inn at Collingwood yet.
Which one do you put on the bench ?
Simonoz
March 24, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Tks Nick…..even if it wasn’t what I wanted to hear 🙂
m0nty
March 24, 2009 at 10:54 pm
steve: Good point, Cox and Brown are solid.
jkvel1
March 24, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Is anyone else worried about dean cox’s fitness after having played in total less than 4 quarters in the entire preseason…
Dean Cox
March 24, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Dont worry about me champ, im doing fine
MiGZ
March 25, 2009 at 12:28 am
is it just me, or does shane tuck look like he has a hint of chimpanzee in him…in that picture.
jazz
March 25, 2009 at 2:38 am
i would have thought dal santo would get better sc numbers, considering his dt numbers were good.
John
March 25, 2009 at 3:50 am
Monty do you have the stats for D.T. for all the players
Disco (UK)
March 25, 2009 at 7:35 am
MiGZ – ahahaha, hilarious!!!
John – that info is in the Fantasy Freako email, you can find it on the DT Talk website.
hamish
March 25, 2009 at 9:03 am
i wouldnt start shaun higgins, hes a late withdrawal with a niggling corked calf, rocket said he wasnt willing to risk him
hamish
March 25, 2009 at 9:04 am
hel definetely play round 3, should get up for round 2 id say though
Jack
March 25, 2009 at 9:14 am
Start talking Hamish. 200,000 sc’ers want to know where you heard this
Magoo
March 25, 2009 at 9:31 am
Ahhh – this will be so boring now that HS has pretty much just given away all the smokies for SC. It has ruined the game for me. What has been the point of buying their paper everyday for the last 3 months and reading every bloody crap article on the likes of that dynamo Jake Spencer if the morons at the HS will just give the info away – all in one convieniant place for the johnny come latleys who have no idea but will pick a very similar side to us.
God this sucks. (these sites are alright as there are not that many noobs coming on here – COS THEY CANT BE BOTHERED DOING THEIR OWN BLOODY RESEARCH)
Magoo
March 25, 2009 at 9:33 am
Bit of a rant – sorry guys but you get where im coming from yeah?
fryzie
March 25, 2009 at 10:04 am
I don’t get these people who are bitching about these stats being available to the public… yes some of us devote more time and research watching games to find out who to get, but the fact remains that such research will make those of us who did the hard yards pick the RIGHT performers, not just anyone who averaged over 100 in the preseason.
Anyone here going to get Tippett as their number one ruck? Not likely, but based on these stats a lot of newbies might even downgrade Cox for him, seeing as Cox averaged 75 points less and costs over twice as much.
These stats are a little innacurate for certain players and it’s for those of us with some football knowledge to weed out the duds who overperformed in the NAB.
In saying that Tippett will probably average 100 for the season, get on him. 😉