The official Champion Data rankings – a.k.a. Super Coach points – for the 2009 NAB Challenge are out.
The link to the Microsoft Excel file is here. For those of you who haven’t got a way to read Excel files, may I recommend a little site I know of called Google.
These are the highlights for me from a rough perusal:
‣ Concerns about Brent Reilly‘s SC credentials should be shelved after his first three scores.
‣ Brisbane’s explosion in DT scores has not necessarily resulted in a similar increase in SC scores across the board.
‣ Daniel Rich is safe as houses as a SC starter.
‣ Lachie Henderson is worth serious consideration as a starter in SC.
‣ Brendan Fevola is an SC specialist.
‣ Chris Johnson is not.
‣ Mitch Robinson looks the best of the Blue kids.
‣ Dayne Beams is another SC specialist (and not bad in DT either).
‣ Ben Reid is not this year’s Nathan J. Brown.
‣ Hayden Skipworth‘s outside game doesn’t overly hurt his SC scoring.
‣ Paul Hasleby is a lock.
‣ Greg Broughton is just about starter material on these numbers.
‣ Stephen Hill has a game that is perhaps too outside for full value in SC.
‣ There is no new Harry Taylor in the new crop of Geelong youngsters.
‣ Travis Tuck‘s turnover count is not hurting his SC scoring due to the highly inside nature of his possessions.
‣ Brendan Whitecross pales in comparison to Matt Suckling in SC.
‣ None of the Demon rucks are startable.
‣ It’s a huge shame for SC that Jack Grimes got injured.
‣ Kyle Cheney is worth a look.
‣ Liam Anthony is an SC monster.
‣ Jack Ziebell is an SC pussy cat.
‣ The Power midfield share around big SC days like blunts at a hippie party.
‣ Shane Tuck is going to be a keeper smokie, especially if Nathan Foley misses games early.
‣ You won’t be disappointed by Brett Deledio.
‣ Andrew Raines is going to have to rack up 20+ touches a game to be truly worthwhile, but he can do it.
‣ Farren Ray is going to have some solid scores in the Saints backline.
‣ Zac Dawson just doesn’t do enough.
‣ Adam Goodes and Ryan O’Keefe are still very much in the SC premium conversation.
‣ Doesn’t look like a year to have any Eagles in SC.
‣ Shaun Higgins is just as much a lock in SC as DT, perhaps more.
Ash
March 25, 2009 at 10:05 am
Magoo,
I totally agree. The Herald have taken the fun outta this game and all u need to do is read one article 2 days before the season starts and u have a good team. I know it makes it more competitive but takes ALL the skill and research outta it.
fryzie
March 25, 2009 at 10:06 am
I would suggest also that Hamish is full of shit. Remember about this time last year a rumour of a late withdrawl for Nick Stevens floated around?
Put Higgins on the ground, he is the bargain of the year but same as every other week – ensure you have a good emergency named in case there is a late withdrawl from anybody.
Magoo
March 25, 2009 at 10:26 am
Thanks Ash – im glad im not the only one who thinks this way.
Simonoz
March 25, 2009 at 10:36 am
Ash & Magoo…..you have to finally realize that its 2009, and not 1989 guys.
This is the way of the world – and its only going to get bigger & bigger – INFORMATION at your fingertips – whenever you want it, wherever you are.
Just like you use the internet now for so many things you didnt say 5 yrs ago – but your not complaining about that ?
As with a watching a game, reading afl stories or trolling these websites – it doesnt really matter WHERE the info comes from….its what you do with it.
And if as you say you’ve got an indepth knowledge BEFORE the info is generally released, then your in a much better position to use it correctly, as opposed to the dufus who registered for SC 3 days ago.
I’d nearly gamble….that in all the info you’ve read on sites like this or the HS….just like these dufus’s 48 hrs ago…you’ve gleamed a piece of information you didnt have from all your research and are now using it for the 09 SC season.
Not an anti-rant….just some clarification on the electronic media world.
ya mum
March 25, 2009 at 10:41 am
Monty this is great but are u doin one for DT aswell?
peek
March 25, 2009 at 11:12 am
TTuck or Haselby? Any thoughts…
hamish
March 25, 2009 at 11:20 am
hasleby has been averaging high 80’s, where as tuck has a strong hawks midfield to contend with to get a touch
Disco (UK)
March 25, 2009 at 11:40 am
L.Henderson monty, really?!
Simonoz
March 25, 2009 at 11:58 am
Disco – Henderson / Frawley / Geary…all roughly same price, all starters…thoughts ?
korza
March 25, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Oh thy mighty God, forgive me for my preseason sins.With just 1 more sleepless night,i ask for your forgiveness.I know that you can be merciful at a time of need.Please guide me in the right directon and away from devil and his greed.
Just 1 more sin,let Laidley not be in heaven or in hell,but in limbo and nowhere to go.
Junkyard do the right thing and play that kid.
Disco
March 25, 2009 at 12:54 pm
I agree with your thinking Magoo but must remind you that nearly every person who has the done the research will have the same or nearly the same rookies as well. The difference is is in the mid and premiums and having an idea who might take the step up.
Magoo
March 25, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Hey Disco – dont care if those who have done the research have similar teams – but not these knuckleheads who get everything laid out for them the day before lockout.
What is the point of doing your own reserch?
Its just too easy to coast along until the day before lockout – all im saying.
Disco
March 25, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Fair enough Magoo. It is frustrating. I still reckon the guys who’ve done their research on everything will still have the upper hand in the long run.
Heater
March 25, 2009 at 2:22 pm
I agree, Disco. The research I did last year enabled me to win my league and finish in the top 1800. Lets hope this years research gets me higher on the list….:)
In regards to others, some the SC coaches in one of my leagues here at work have absolutely no idea even when they are constantly on fanfooty.com. I mean one bloke has Matt Egan in his backline FFS!!!
So I guess you can be on fanfooty.com but not have the capacity to use the info….
Ash
March 25, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Yeah i agree with u disco, the research i have done has seen me go from top 50,000 to top 20,000 to top 800. I just dont like seeing people get an easy ride. But the main diff is picking ur mid price players and also ur premium players. Especially this year with there being a lack of rookies that may play consistently from round 1. Oh well may the best man win.
Muppet Executioner
March 25, 2009 at 2:30 pm
SC SC SC —
I’ve just got this sub $100K need for a bench back (or 2) – I’ve got Rance and Perenko there but I guess with the delayed announcements of squads thru R1, we’re all in the boat?
Brad
March 25, 2009 at 2:49 pm
@ Magoo,
Agree with you 100% mate.
Once the season gets well under way, no doubt those of us who have put in the effort will make the correct moves at the trade table which will ultimately separate the good sides from the bad come finals time but it has defintiely taken the fun out of it for me in the early rounds for sure.
I have spent the day in the office spewing up because people in my s/c league have put their teams together last night after i spent 3 months doing the hard research and the sides are very similar as far as the rookies are concerned, premiums will average close to the same anyway. But now those people who would have noramlly taken Zeilbell over Beams or Anthony for example will drop him for one of the latter becuase they now know he is not fantasy player at this stage.
This is where we should have the advantage IMO.
Jazzman
March 25, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Sure, the NAB comp gives us at least some idea how some players are fairing but it is hardly gospel when it comes to the season proper. We’ve got a whole season of ups and downs to endure – let’s not get out knickers in a knot before it even starts. There’ll be injuries, form spikes and slumps, coach’s bizarre selection policies, player indiscretions (on and off the field), attacking/defensive strategies, differing rule interpretation by umpires, etc, etc, etc. There’ll be plenty of variables to consider and agonise over that will cloud the waters that seem so crystaline at this end of the season. Take a breath and be comforted that your experience and research will stand you in good stead when the inevitable waves come rolling in.
Disco
March 25, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Eloquently put Jazzman
jayz
March 25, 2009 at 4:32 pm
which young crow will be the best value in dt this year? have got walker and petrenko in my side at the mo but have cash left over if other options are possible
lloydy
March 25, 2009 at 4:52 pm
hey guys
can someone pick my team for me this year coz i really have no idea??
Brad
March 25, 2009 at 5:14 pm
@Jazzman “standing ovation”.
Collected my thoughts and settled down now.
@Lloydy
Such a simple comment can be so fricken hilarious..well done
Disco
March 25, 2009 at 5:15 pm
No worries Lloydy
Backline
Prestigiacomo, Grimes, J.Trengrove, M.Egan, J.Hunt, Patrenko, Rance, Em Z Dawson, Polak
Mids
N.Stephens, M.Coughlan, Crowley, Peake, Malakelis, Bahargiar, em J.Barham, R.Harvey
Rucks
M.Pyke, R.Warnock em Currie, O’keefe
Forwards
Garlett, J.Watts, A.Hansen, Kernahan, Beasley, Ezard, Kourkemelis, em T.Barker, Harmes.
Sticks Kernahan
March 25, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Thats a good lookin team disco, with me at full forward you cant go wrong
Disco (UK)
March 25, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Magoo – face the facts mate, its how it is and the only thing you can do about it is be a better coach.
Lets see how the minions go with strategy, trading and break-evens, etc. Said muppets will burn their trades by R16 and will start Ablett in SC, anyway…
Browndog
March 25, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Cam Says: 10:07 pm, March 24th, 2009
@hairy – this is why DT and supercoach will die a slow death soon and the fantasy games like Ultimate Footy will rise and become the mainstream. It’s makes so much more sense (a a whole lot more fun) having a proper draft.
DT and SC are almost a game of luck these days. Not much skill to it with all the free information like this out there. I guarantee most people wouldn’t know what any of these rookies looked like.
YOU ARE A NOB CAM! GET YA HAND OFF IT MATE
Disco
March 25, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Thanks Sticks, I was wanting to put in Bruce Duperusal but i wasn’t sure how to spell his name. Sorry, you were my second choice.
Brady
March 25, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Hey guys,
i had adam cooney but have seen dalziell and wondering if i should take the risk and get the cash, as cooney has been injured and dalziell has been posting some pretty impressive scores.
thoughts?
thanks guys
Simonoz
March 25, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Magoo – Disco….you have to ask yourselves why DT (afl) and SC (HS) exist in the first place?
It has nothing to do with the fans enjoyment…they didnt sit around trying to reinvent the crossword so that us the fans had something fun to do.
Its all about the cash – always will be. And with moola$ comes every tom,dick & harry website spewing forth info, all trying to get a piece of the pie.
Over here in the states, Fantasy Football is a 50 Billion Dollars a year business…from websites to tv shows to magazines to weekly newspapers…you name it – the info comes at you from all sides.
Back home in Melbourne, its only going to get bigger & bigger…with even more information from all sources – especially just before the season starts, just to wring the crap out of the chicken and make sure they get the most ‘views’ = dollars.
But as with anything going back 100’s of years – what you do with this info seperates you from the pack…so take your months of research and shove it down the throat of the newbies once the season is underway – just be warned – next year, the newbies are going to start early too LOL
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Disco
March 26, 2009 at 8:34 am
Agree SimonOz. And lets also remember that only a company who could make money from this would put this much time and effort into its developmnet and offer this much prizemoney. I’m not saying I like what the HS has done recently to try and get sales up, but its a fact of the matter that we need someone like the HS to create the FF comps. The reason that the Supercoach and Dreamteam are so popular is that because they offer big prizes and to get their money back they need to sell adds and papers. Got to take the good with the bad even though it sucks.