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Match report • View fantasy scoresFringer: New Hawthorn side Monty?
whatlez1: The port team are in the Dockers line up? haha
lord: ???
nostrdamus: at least we've got the scores
snake_p: colin sylvia would never get a game for the Hawks
nostrdamus: ....errr scratch that last comment :(
TheoX: sylvia would be a star at hawks, surrounded by duds at melb
rooboy12: ???
valkorum: C'mon Freo
Carlos78: Sylvia would never get a game at the Hawks
PhilipJFry: Sylvia for Lewis?
TheoX: whatever carlos
Meldrum23: i agree sylvia would rip shower up with decent support.
Carlos78: Okay, maybe he could ruck
E Kavastar: If Chance Bateman can get a game at the Hawks, then anyone can
juzzo7: bateman used to be a jet, dno wat happened to him.
Jezro: Is McCauley playing?
Meldrum23: was always an impact player juzzo, an average one at best. still important though i guess.
Jezro: Scratch that.
Meldrum23: a nice 65-70 please suckling.
juzzo7: glad i live in perth 6pr>>>>>>5aa
Dazza87: does anyone know when rookies get upgraded?
E Kavastar: Franklin or Fyfe? Franklin tough start, frees uo extra cash, and Fyfe looks in for a huge year...
juzzo7: im taking both
Dazza87: yeah go both cant go wrong
valkorum: buddy and fyfe for me
Rommas: I got both Buddy and Fyfe
lukeyj23: ive got both
snake_p: what about Hale for 2nd ruck now Bailey injured?
Dazza87: looks like Hale has stepped his game up since we got Gunston in
Stells: What do we think about the 'RedRock' combo in the mid?
duct tape: is david hale tempting anyone for dream team?
duct tape: l
Jezro: Yea, Hale is becoming totally fantasty relevant.
whatlez1: Birchall is killing Suckling haha and is everyones Port v Melb game not working?
MissPies: I wish Hale wasnt doing so well he was my smokey
bogut: what is up with the scores
coyote69: Hale has had a great NAB cup, he is in my team.
whatlez1: Go suckling the sub
whatlez1: Come on Fyfe
dutchtup: hale is really benefiting from roughie's absence. I doubt he could keep up this form when roughie is playing
nostrdamus: hale's doing really well
nostrdamus: clarkson has said that roughy wont be playing in the ruck
ashmos: anyone know of a stream for this game pls?
Rommas: Hale will have McCauley's score when the real season starts and Roughead comes back
nostrdamus: @ashmos, we cant mention streams here
whatlez1: Birchall 15 touches already?
Steelers7: read the rules ashmos
tractorfac: anyone taking spurr on?
dawsy: Whos thinkin Zac Dawson as a DT Keeper this year?
mpollock: i had Hale locked b4 this game ... so much for my unique!
whatlez1: Monty is as fast as Carlton Draught Match Centre stats
Matticus: @dawsy - me, I cant believe saints ever let him go
tractorfac: zC Swaoon will always be roccas bitch
lloydy28: Dawson is a hack!!
whatlez1: Birchall leading game with 16 touches, who says he's not any good?
7ator: no sandilands and no griffin? whats the deal lads?
m0neyball: whatlez - nobody ever said that.
tractorfac: is 3 players in thw 200k range a bad move?
Matticus: @ mpollock - good choice on hale, really flourished since coming to hawks.
whatlez1: @moneyball, what?
Matticus: My FF is not refreshing well. Could someone tell me how hale v clarke is looking H2H
miffysp: Is broughton in the midfield? I'm tossing up him or birchall for sc
Hezza69: Clarke 51 Hale 70
BuddyMagic: where do we get live supercoach scores from ?
BuddyMagic: hale kicks another outside 50
Matticus: @ Hezza69 - Thanks, Hightouts head 2 head?
Matticus: some big scores for a half of footy in a pre-season.
DrBill: is fyfe getting tagged? 4 touches...
Demons15: anyone without franklin this year will suffer severely
lloydy28: Franklin and Fyfe a must!
Matticus: @ Demons15 - I reckon everyone has him. Be hard pressed to find a DT or SC without him.
Demons15: yeah everyone knows. same with dusty i reckon
Masten: Every1, get on me this year....im breakin out xx
7ator: Franklin is in 53% of dt teams
lloydy28: is that all?
Matticus: @ 7ator - 53% really, thats really surprising I honestly thought it would be like 80% or 90%
Matticus: @7ator - where did you get that stat?
Masten: Remember only 53% of players kno how to play....
R.Griffen.: Get on me fella's
DrBill: franklin is only in 54% of completed super coach sides according to fox. but that's still #1 most popular
lloydy28: yeah righto mate!
7ator: player stats, coaches choice. need to have assistant coach to view ot though.
Dazza87: hlftime SC scores are out: Hale 109, Buddy 100, Lewis 63, Broughton 55 and Rioli 53. source: @FantasyFreako
7ator: yeah, franklin most popular in dt, goddard second.
dt2010: am i crazy to think of trading goddard for broughton?
Matticus: @ dt2010 - my opinion is yes, obviously it depends on your funds and what the rest op your teams like
Meldrum23: zach clarke 8 tackles lol
gc4life: What's going on with fyfe? And what's buddy's stats?
miffysp: We dont know broughtons role once mundy and Barlow return
Red Dirty: whats wrong with suckers! is he even playing
miffysp: Who got subbed off for suckers at the half
MatDark: mzungu at 400k is tempting.
Matticus: fyfe moving now!
Red Dirty: Fyfe is a champ! wont have to worry about him guys
Matticus: 18 DT in three minutes
BarlowGod: where r the icons guys?
peteywest: no radio for this game is there?
miffysp: Yeah mzungu has ha a great pre season. Busted some 100+ near the end of 2011
Red Dirty: @peteywest 6PR 882
Red Dirty: @peteywest go to afl site click on Dockers vs Hawks link an its there
BarlowGod: guys should i get oendlebury instead of swan 4 dt?
BarlowGod: *pendlebury
Red Dirty: i would say no! Swan has he ability o punch out those big numbers and comfortable C lock
BarlowGod: will magner play rd 1?
Demons15: i have both...
Demons15: and yes magner is said to be back for round 1
BarlowGod: yeah but i have ableyy, barlow, boyd 2
snake_p: barlowgod - probably should consider him even if he only plays Rnd2
BarlowGod: kk thanks Demons15
ShowerTime: hale looks to be a good second ruck option
Red Dirty: id be ditching barlow! but im sure your not going to do that
afl_freak2: any1 reckon couch wont play round 1??
Masten: Can Buddy kick another ton this year or will the Big Q beat him to it?
Red Dirty: magner if elevated will be in my side regardless of r1 or not
peteywest: showertime.. i know.. think ive the cash saved if you changed mummy/cox to hale.. just dono if can do it!
Demons15: i have ablett and boyd as well...
BarlowGod: hahaha as if
Demons15: im not kidding. my mid is Swan, pendles, ablett, boyd, coniglio, C.smith, shiel and magner
mpollock: where is roughead?
Demons15: i'd print screen it but no one gets to see my team and i needa go :)
ShowerTime: wouldn't be ditching Cox - he's #1, hale #2
MatDark: contemplating last midfield spot, hayes 382k or mzungu 400k. any thoughts?
MatDark: exactly 400k to spend in last mid spot
BarlowGod: hayes
Masten: @ MatDark - niether. C Masten is a breakin out xx
Meldrum23: masten always gets peoples hopes up in pre season.
MatDark: i like hayes, is a risk though, mzungu on the up & mastern good nab form
gdshifty: Geez it's hard to ignore Hales form.
george2010: i would pick mzungu. What about Parker
Meldrum23: to be honest mat dark those 3 are all fairly risky to put in the mids.
BarlowGod: guys tell me what u think of m midfield. barlow, boyd, ablett, pendlebury, wingard, james mcdonald, magner, lachie neale
mpollock: Not a lot of love for Mitchel in DT/SC? Will kill it again this year!!
MatDark: i've already got swan, boyd, joel, rockliff in there too
E Kavastar: Pavlich is an old spud no one should have him
BarlowGod: 98000$ left.
peteywest: @barlowgod - wingard, mcdonald, neale - change them
E Kavastar: Terrible midfield, back to the drawing board
mpollock: ablett, swan, mitchell and redden in mids for me ...
Red Dirty: Ablett , Swan RedRock combo for mine and i dont care about byes going in hard from the start
tractorfac: swan and buddy wont scre well rd 1 guranteed
whatlez1: My mids are Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Selwood, Boyd and Rockcliff
dawsy: what about Mastern in mids?
snake_p: on what basis crackafat?
R.Dyson.2: yous are all idiots if you dont have daisy in your team
Matticus: @whatlez1 - do you have eny salary cap left with your midfeild the way it is?
afl_freak2: looks like couch and wingard wont play round 1!! time to move them out if u had them.
Morts54: Ablett, Selwood, Fyfe, Martin, Hayes, Burgoyne, Browne, Cunningham
mpollock: @whatlez1 .... must have a terrible side outside of the mids
Matticus: good for you though if you can afford it
whatlez1: Nah I'm just Bsing guys. Don't ban me monty :9
lloydy28: daisy is a muppet!
Matticus: i can not help but agree with mpollock though.
Adamant: You guys are idiots if you believe whatlez midfield lol
lord: ban him
tractorfac: side bum or fyfe very tough call
Matticus: @whatlez - i was about to say was there a glitch and your cap was 20 million
R.Dyson.2: daisy for brownlow!
Matticus: @Adamant - I have seen it before, a lot of times.
peteywest: suckling come on that quarter yeh? 36 in Q3?
lord: Mzungu is only going to get more points when Barlow nd Mundy come back
whatlez1: everyone watch the team name whatlez will lead after rd 1 and all throughout the season
Matticus: ppl stacking their mids cause they generally score the highest
lord: fyfe i lub you and your dream curls
Morts54: Correct Matticus
miffysp: But the midfield have better and mire rookie prospects
lord: correct, and you shouldnt have mid range players in your team like masten
tractorfac: oh snap! i have no geelng or hawks players
Matticus: we know that miffysp but i do not thinkg a lot of DT and SC noobs realise that.
R.Dyson.2: daisy!
miffysp: Who reckons mzungu could average 100+ remember his 25. That seper8s him from other 2nd yr plyrs
MatDark: Rioli or Sidebottom if both play midfield & stay injury free?
whatlez1: birchall touched the ball after over a quarter of not touching it?
Dicko: Rioli can't stay injury free
E Kavastar: whatlez: Birchall wa subbed before HT and has now been subbed back in for the last qtr
Matticus: agreed Dicko
E Kavastar: But let's hope everyone out there just thinks he couldn't touch it for a while, ey ;)
BarlowGod: sould i get eliot kavenagh
dt2010: happy that burgoyne has convinced me not to take him as a smokey def
whatlez1: Yeah kav, hopefully
BarlowGod: and tom mitchell?
J.Bartel: So what do you guys reckon of picking up heppell this year? should have similar output to last year if not better?
BarlowGod: anyone?
dt2010: no heppell for me, but only cause of a no dumb haircuts policy
KyWynne: Burgoyne is showere out there
Matticus: @J.Bartel - Lots of forums saying not worht the cash and most likely wont improve all that much
E Kavastar: Kavanagh will average 120+ this year but he won't play at the start. pick him up when he gets a game later
dt2010: surely mitchell wont get early games in the swans side esp with no NAB time. is he named this week?
brockmav: Mitchell good down grader mid year me thinks
Gooseman10: Has Pav played all game, or is he bench warming?
brockmav: i worry about Heppel myself big coin for a young guy had him as everyone did last year tho
peteywest: mzungu so tempting..
brockmav: mzungu lock for mine
J.Bartel: yeh good points about him being in his second year i have 422k so could get adcock/fisher insted already have br
brockmav: How has Broc looked surely he will get game time early in season good bench option??
J.Bartel: broughton*
arzbar: Rioli playing half back?
miffysp: I wish mzungu still had his dpp
Matticus: i would tak mohr, darley, ellis, brown, or bugg before hep and use the cash somewhere else
afl_freak2: looks like some of the rookie stocks will be down other than GWS!!
brockmav: ellis as in Xavier??
miffysp: Wtf is up wit hodge? Was considering him as a nice POD
afl_freak2: GWS bye round might be a killer
ashmos: Radio keep calling Gunston....is he playing?
E Kavastar: Is it too risky to have 7 GWS rooks in your team? Good rookie options are so shower this year I might have to!
Matticus: true afl_freak2
MatDark: 7 yes indeed
afl_freak2: go many of the other rookies will be subs
MatDark: i have 3, but will end up cutting gws rooks to 2
afl_freak2: to many other rookies will be subs
Matticus: @E Kavastar - its a big call dont be too tempted, but i hear what you are saying bout shower rooks
TTT Saints: Will spurr start this season?
brockmav: 7 is to many i think
afl_freak2: yeah i think u have no choice but to load up on GWS rookies
J.Bartel: which seven would you start with
J.Bartel: which seven would you start with?
arzbar: i have 7, bugg, darley, clifton, smith, miles, giles, cameron
E Kavastar: Seriously, back rookies are terrible. Morris, Clarke (pricey), Smedts, Boumann... pretty slim after that apart from GWS
afl_freak2: spurr is yet to set the world a light yet!! dont reckon hes close to a lock yet even if named round 1
brockmav: is it the year to bring back the mid price strategy then ???
brockmav: just a thought with a lack of quality rooks
MatDark: webberley if he plays is fairly priced at 110k & has experience already
afl_freak2: im all for the mid price load up and gws rookie load up!! cant see any other option
BillyBeane: No mid price strategy! Not if yu want to win the whole thing!
Morts54: Ellis from Richmond ?? will play
Matticus: @brockmav - i am not. half guns half rooks
Matticus: @Morts54 - i am confident with ellis
afl_freak2: the likes of kerridge clay smith ect ect are no doubt be subs
brockmav: same with me just throwin it in as a discussion point
E Kavastar: Ellis will be starting in everyone's team Morts so didn't include. I'm more talking about bench options
E Kavastar: Webberley won't play imo, neither will Luke Brown, or Spurr, or Wilkes
afl_freak2: whats bad bout loading up on mid price players that have been proven good players??? if it comes off u will be laughing
BillyBeane: Rookies that play will score more than some mid priced defenders - just have to pick the right ones. That's the art.
BillyBeane: Wilkes won't score enough - bad deal.
E Kavastar: Yagomoor could play but would have terrible JS, Tynan won't play straight away
Matticus: @E Kavastar - I tend to agree so do fantasy freak and Dr Dream Team
afl_freak2: no rookie backman other than ellis will score more than 60-70
peteywest: gunstone.. stats? lol
brockmav: but your rookies do have to play
MatDark: the ones under 121k would be smedts, docherty, bugg, ellis, morris & luke brown when he gets his chance
afl_freak2: freo win they are home
BillyBeane: some mid priced defenders will score the same
Matticus: @Billybeane - i agree, mid prices are mid prices becasue their scores have plateaued and wont go up that much
BillyBeane: Matticus gets it
afl_freak2: smedts wont avg well,docherty is unproven,bugg wul be ok,morris wont play because ellis will take his spot.
miffysp: Mzungu is a mid pricer guys. So is ziebell and so on. They r going up. Gota pick the right young ones on the rise.
BillyBeane: Guns and rookies the oly way - whoever wins will just pick the right rooks
E Kavastar: Forward rooks aren't much better. D.Smith and Kerridge are locks, along with A.Hall and Cameron. Gets thin after that
Matticus: if your going to settle for a 60-70 player may as well pay 100k not 250-300k
brockmav: not if you pick the right mid pricers
Meldrum23: they are all unproven afl_freak2
BillyBeane: the freak has a crystal ball
R.Griffen.: Darley will score quite well
BillyBeane: sorry brock - you can't win with that strategy
afl_freak2: remember u need 2 rookies on the bench and 1-2 on the ground!! for example there are not 4 rookie backman who will avg 7
brockmav: hargrave??
Morts54: Hargraves and Lake are $$$$
afl_freak2: avg 70
J.Bartel: i have 3 midpricers lake, hargrave and porplyzia i reckon they should all ave 75+ which will be more than rookies
Memph: If you picked Redden, Rockliff and Fyfe last season you would have gunned it
brockmav: as i said before just a discussion point Billy i have guns and rooks atm
BillyBeane: mid pricers simply don't appreciate enough - it's just like playing the sharemarket - you have to speculate to accumulat
Matticus: no one really knows, heaps of teams last year had toy and he only played 8 with and avg of 47
afl_freak2: winner from 2008 picked players that he thought would go up in value he picked mid price players
Matticus: the fact is people can only speculate
Kraz: have to have hargraves in your side....
Red Dirty: is Kerridge gonna get a game at the crows
Matticus: i am taking hargrave
BillyBeane: sorry freak - do your research - your wrong - eg Duigan
BillyBeane: You don't "have" to pick hargraves
Kraz: I too have lake hargraves and the porps
Red Dirty: will kerridge get a game from the crows
BillyBeane: That's so 2008
Matticus: it is a bit "luck of the draw" when picking rooks - who will play and who wont.
afl_freak2: lake and hargrave will avg over 80!!! no rookie back wil avg more than 60 other than one or 2 max
BillyBeane: Fair enough Brock - I believe in Socratic education - discussion is valuable.
afl_freak2: he will be the sub
Matticus: kerridge will play a few. but with porps coming back if he can stay injury free i am not sure how many he will get
afl_freak2: and those one or 2 rooks will be on the bench,if they were to be on the ground 2 other bench rooks will avg 50
BillyBeane: The right rookies may ave 80
Matticus: @afl_freak2 - i think there is a differnece between seasoned players who had 12 month injurys then say a darren glass.
brockmav: meanwhile s Mitchell racks up another lazy 121 lol
Matticus: he is mid priced but he wont earn you anything or win DT or SC games.
BillyBeane: It's not abject speculation - you can pick good footballers if you watch - you can see the qualities that make players.
Rommas: Traded out Pavlich and Riewoldt and bought in Jack Redden and Dangermouse!
afl_freak2: no back rookie will avg 80!! bet my balls only 1 max
brockmav: i knew i liked you Billy
afl_freak2: the guy who won in 2008 picked a whole lot of mid price players and won the comp!! searc the vid??
BillyBeane: well played Dockers - they look like they'll be ok.
Matticus: with the rookie topic there is no way anyone can really know, it is an educated guess at best.
Matticus: what mid priced players would win you the comp this year?
BillyBeane: Curious one - Leigh Spurr - I would have liked him upgraded.
brockmav: porp lake hargrave masten dempsey etc
BillyBeane: sorry lee!
Matticus: it may have worked on '08 but it wont this year, not with a new franchise coming in, hell yeah if u agree.
BillyBeane: Scrub Boumann
peteywest: mzungu or dangerf?
afl_freak2: lake hargrave,grimes all guns.porps never had a great avg so im staying away!!
Matticus: hargrave not doubt if he can get back to form but bot the others
afl_freak2: no mid price mids for me as the best value rookies are in the mids,they avg the best.dangerfield and didak
BillyBeane: Porp the only one - I really like - he can really play - he's a great player.
BillyBeane: Get on Dangers - he's just working out how he can best be dangerous.
djaj17: afl_freak2.... ur a retard
Matticus: @peteywest - Mzungu
afl_freak2: porps has never had a great avg he doesnt get enough of the ball!!didak is your man
BillyBeane: Hell yeah Brock - simple logic and maths.
BillyBeane: Didak is done - stick a fork in him.
afl_freak2: the bloke who said im a retard should be banned!!
Matticus: Porps good if he can stay fit. best season '08 avg DT 78 SC 87
afl_freak2: hahaha 2-3 weeks time i will be back on and everyman and his dog will have didak
Matticus: I actually have dids, he is a mid priced i do have as well as hargrave
Matticus: so which rooks have ppl gone with in their fwd?
afl_freak2: didak done at the age of 28??? hes never had any mojor injuries??? a few set backs last year for example brian lake...
afl_freak2: not many good rooks in the forward line other than smith
peteywest: well you shouldnt mention didak in a fantasy chat man
Matticus: he is about all i have, what about ah chee, walsh etc
peteywest: matticus so u dont have danger?.. hes form and new midfield time and fixture looks too good
djaj17: didak had knee surgey in 2005... would u call that a no major injury afl_freak2
afl_freak2: th above are all duds
Matticus: @peteywest - in all honesty man i have not really seen him thats why i am on here chatting to u gents
afl_freak2: yes hes never had a knee reco ect ect!!! hes not even close to how bad adam cooneys body is
afl_freak2: so there for didak has never had any bad injuries