Spottos Attempt at making to top 10k

Spotto · January 01, 2015, 02:33:03 PM

I've spent a few days fiddling to find the following team which I am liking a lot

Def: Simpson, Shaw, Hodge, Waters, Whitecross, Brown (Goddard (FWD), McKenzie (MID))
Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Selwood, Sloane, Van Berlo, Heeney, Freeman (Boekhorst, Dumont, Steele (FWD))
Ruck: Naitanui, Leuenberger (Read (FWD))
For: Gray (MID), Deledio (MID), Frankin, Bellchambers (RUC), Clark, Hogan (Laverde (MID), Krakouer (MID))
Cash Left: $1,500
Bye structure: 8/12/10
I've attempted to select the most consistent prems in my eyes. If I need cash to swap my rookies around I'll drop Hodge to someone like Hurn or Walker.
My POD is mainly Gray who although expensive I believe will back up his great year last year, plus I have gone strong in my midfield

Would live to hear peoples opinions

Money Shot · January 01, 2015, 02:38:39 PM

This is a great side can't really fault any picks although I'm not sure on Gray.
I think Swan is a must and is 125k cheaper then Gray so that's the obvious thing I would do.
That 120k could be used how ever you like!
Even if you don't drop Gray I think you need someone to turn into Swan
Apart from that it's a pretty damn good side!

Would love your thoughts on my team.

Spotto · January 01, 2015, 02:48:50 PM

Thanks MS, I have my doubts on swan, yeah he had a bad year last year and says he will do better, but he is spending more time forward away from the ball, had 0 tons in his last 11 games last year, and is another year older.
Gray is more expensive but is hitting his prime and is a contested ball machine who kicks goals, he had 15 tons in 22 games last year including a few massives scores and not including a further 3 scores over 89, his style of play reminds me a lot of ablett.

In my humble opinion gray is a sure thing for top 3 forwards, where as swan will be up and down depending on where buckley uses him after losing beams and ball (if he plays permanent mid he may return to be high scoring). Hence why I've chosen to go with the more consistent player

Money Shot · January 01, 2015, 02:53:55 PM

Fair points.
Making me doubt Swan :o
But still think Gray to Franklin/Goddard/Martin would be a good move 8)

Spotto · January 01, 2015, 03:07:06 PM

Haha yeah sorry, that's just my opinion on swan though.
Martin is a quality player but doesn't tend to make the massive scores that gray would (Martin 2 scores 120+ Gray 9 scores 120+), he has a lot of scores that just break the 100 (9 scores between 100-110), which is obviously still good, but not game winning, and he still fades in and out of games, he will still obviously be an upgrade target though.
Goddard is an interesting player who I have researched, he was reasonably consistent, however had a slow end to the year with only 2 tons in his last 7 games, the thing that put me off selecting goddard was the few low scores that still produces, he will still be a very good player though and to downgrade to him would only make me about 40k, which wouldn't make a whole lot of difference. Still something to ponder though if I do need to change my rookies
The other player you mentioned was franklin who is in my lineup and hopefully he start on fire :)

Money Shot · January 01, 2015, 03:16:23 PM

Fair enough mate!
Good points!
Would love to hear your thoughts on my team.

crowls · January 01, 2015, 03:29:51 PM

Great looking team spotto.

Good explanations of your selections to back it up as well. I disagree with Gray and think that he will be an upgrade option during first half of the year. So why spend the money early. Very strong Mids, I am going Ward over fyfe. Ward is right age and size to just keep improving and I expect him to get 120 average this year.

Like you I cant have Martin, as you said too inconsistent and not enough upside. Swan offers a lot more for less money.

I have shuffled my rucks around but end up with either Nicnat or Minson with Luey and Read. Hoping NicNat stays on the park this year

Based on this team as a starter you should definitely get to 10k and maybe set your goal higher on 5k.

fasttrack13 · January 01, 2015, 06:08:28 PM

Ablett is the same age as swan... Same situation had surgery... Both capable of similar output. Why you got Gaz? ;) just something to think about. He also averaged 11 scores over 120 per year for the last 5 years (including last) he will be better maybe not that 120 mark but atleast 105-115.
Hodge will only play 15-17 games as Hawks will work him into finals as they want him 100%.
Such a mainstream midfield really love to see people do something different, not going to be able to break away from the pack otherwise.
It's a good team but there's a lot of research to be done as it is such early on.

Spotto · January 01, 2015, 08:49:30 PM

Ablett is the same age as swan... Same situation had surgery... Both capable of similar output. Why you got Gaz? ;) just something to think about. He also averaged 11 scores over 120 per year for the last 5 years (including last) he will be better maybe not that 120 mark but atleast 105-115.
Hodge will only play 15-17 games as Hawks will work him into finals as they want him 100%.
Such a mainstream midfield really love to see people do something different, not going to be able to break away from the pack otherwise.
It's a good team but there's a lot of research to be done as it is such early on.

Thanks for the response guys.

FT Ablett may be the same age as swan, and may be returning from injury, but going on their outputs from last year their careers are at very different stages. Besides the current injury there is no case to suggest Ablett has slowed down, although we all know that at some point he will have to. Swan on the other hand needs to have a drastic change in form to make him a complete lock, and with the pies rebuilding I don't think Bucks will give him a lot of midfield time.
On Hodge I do completely agree, and the only reason I have him is that he fits the bye structure, I would rather have Shaw but his bye is no good to me, and I don't trust Smith. It's difficult to find good solid def prems.
My midfield may be mainstream, but it is for a reason all of the prems are guns and you wouldn't bet against all of them being in the top 8 scoring mids. Also it may be against the main stream to start all 5 of them, but I do agree that most teams will have 3-4 of them

fasttrack13 · January 01, 2015, 09:10:52 PM

Id bet against Sloane being. Contract talks could be a problem for him.
Ablett, Pendles, Fyfe, Rockliff, Selwood, ward, kennedy, libba, Barlow then maybe Sloane and a whole host of others.

Swan had wrist, thumb and ankle problems. All fine now, my point is... If you don't pick him he is more than likely going to score 105+ and a hug chance of 105-115. You'll be stuck wondering how to get him in and burning trades to do so. Atleast so he dos fail everyone else has him. He's the only player up forward who you need to select just because of his price. Bucks made it clear pies want top 4, can't do that with out swan in the guts.
Mainstream is fine, just I've seen a lot of teams with all 5. I believe Selwood will be a better upgrade target. Sloane has other players who i see better around his price. Ward, Barlow, Kennedy, Libba.
Just look into everyone of them.

Like I said your team is very good.

Spotto · January 01, 2015, 09:49:44 PM

Using the people you have mentioned.

Def: Simpson, Smith, Hibberd, Waters, Whitecross, Brown (Goddard (FWD), Wigg)
Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Selwood, Ward, Van Berlo, Brayshaw, Anderson (Boekhorst, Heeney, Freeman)
Ruck: Naitanui, Leuenberger (Read (FWD))
For: Deledio (MID), Frankin, Swan (MID), Bellchambers (RUC), Clark, Hogan (Laverde (MID), Krakouer (MID))
Cash Left: $27,300
Bye structure: 8/12/10

This team or the first one?

In my opinion it looks weaker forward with swan instead of gray, however the midfield looks pretty tanky

fasttrack13 · January 01, 2015, 11:06:07 PM

Personally would've kept Gray as I agree he is a top 3 fwd again.
Probably downgraded lids, and kept your previous rookies.

meow meow · January 02, 2015, 02:55:57 AM

Don't even joke about putting N. Brown in your team.

fasttrack13 · January 02, 2015, 09:56:32 AM

Quote from: meow meow on January 02, 2015, 02:55:57 AM
Don't even joke about putting N. Brown in your team.

He will produce 50-60 increase cash by about 120-180k.... Why not if there's no other options, not like you'll be stupid enough to actually play him onfield. D8 bench cover or downgrade. Good option imo *IF NO ROOKIES AVAILABLE*

Money Shot · January 02, 2015, 10:21:37 AM

Quote from: Spotto on January 01, 2015, 09:49:44 PM
Using the people you have mentioned.

Def: Simpson, Smith, Hibberd, Waters, Whitecross, Brown (Goddard (FWD), Wigg)
Mid: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Selwood, Ward, Van Berlo, Brayshaw, Anderson (Boekhorst, Heeney, Freeman)
Ruck: Naitanui, Leuenberger (Read (FWD))
For: Deledio (MID), Frankin, Swan (MID), Bellchambers (RUC), Clark, Hogan (Laverde (MID), Krakouer (MID))
Cash Left: $27,300
Bye structure: 8/12/10

This team or the first one?

In my opinion it looks weaker forward with swan instead of gray, however the midfield looks pretty tanky

I like this team a lot more now!
I won't be picking Brown unless it is the last possible option.
Great team would love your thoughts on mine!