Felstys 2015 Preseason - need back up plan for $$$

[Ringo]

Good ideas guys!

Loving the feedback..

Have settled on this..

B: Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Waters, Hamling, Dick (Edwards, Newman)
M: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Sloane, Ward, Van Berlo, Freeman, Ellis-Yolmen (Laverde, Lambert)
R: Maric, NicNat (Read)
F: Gray, Deledio, Swan, Bellchambers, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)

$143k left in the bank to play with rookies

Don't really love the Bellchambers pick but I think the cover will be sorely needed at some point or another

If you do not like Bellchambers you have the cash to go to Lycett - Lycett will be working in partnership with Nic Nat similar to Cox last year so may be worth a shot if he takes your fancy.  Will still leave $32k in kitty to adjust kitty with further option to downgrade Gray if need be. The other alternative to Lycett a little cheaper is Hale but he does not impress me as much as Belly or Lycett.

Yeah look, I think I just don't like Belly because I'm all about getting keepers straight up with my team and only taking risks with a select few - Newnes, Waters, etc. but the new ruck rules almost require you to have an RF otherwise you'll be stuffed! I would hate to cop a donut just because I had no cover..

Another thing to look at is check when Essendon and Geelong play because even if you pick Bellchambers you might not be able to switch him around over the weekend because either of them will be locked in. FRUSTRATING!

That is why i was suggesting Lycett if you look at his scores he went 90+ in 6 games so would expect him to average around 90 playing 2nd fiddle to Nat - He averaged at least 1 goal a match and kicked 4 against Pies. He will be in Eagles best 22.
West Coast have only 3 Friday night games.
Essendon and Geelong only play once and is a Saturday Night game.

[fasttrack13]

I reckon if you go guns and rookies finding 13-15 keepers you'll have enough for 3/4 sideways trades in your rucks if they do go down meaning there'd be no need for that cover.

As for your team, If you in other threads you'll get all the advice you need. However you're very short in defence and with a midfield rich in value u220k I think that's not the best idea. I think you'll be also wishing you had Goldy/Jacobs from the with Maric as your ruckman next year. 5-10 points lost per week. Especially with goldys ceiling... (123 ave in his last 11 games)
Ward selection is my favourite. Inj games meant he averaged 117 last year. Tagged game average was below 112 with Griffen there won't get tagged average 120+ IMO!

[felsty]

Alright, think this might be my final team before preseason games..

B: Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Waters, Hamling, Dick (Edwards, Newman)
M: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ward, Dangerfield, Van Berlo, Freeman, Heeney (Ellis-Yolmen, Laverde, Lambert)
R: Maric, Natanui (Cox)
F: Goddard, Deledio, Bennell, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)

$28.5k remaining

Bye breakdown for my premos is 10/8/10 but if you include NVB and Waters in that (big if I know) it becomes 11/10/11
Even if I don't include them and attempt a double upgrade in Round 12 for Round 11 players (Beams & Burgoyne?) it ends up being 10/10/12

Obviously the biggest issue is the Round 12 players in my forward line (Goddard, Bennell, Swan) so being able to navigate my way through that could be the hardest part of my bye structure exercise, but we shall see what happens during the season.

The other issue is my funds, having only $28.5k to spend on getting the right rookies, however if push comes to shove I would probably make the changes in my midfield:

Ward > Sloane, Dangerfield > Griffen = $54.5k (to keep bye structure)

or even

Dangerfield > Crouch = $87.9k

Think Crouch has some massive upside if he has a full preseason. Cotchin is also a possibility at that price and with the same bye round.

What do people think?

[GCSkiwi]

Hey felsty

I like the side, in terms of cash generation the moves I would be considering are:

Dangerfield to Rich - Rich I think is a solid stepping stone, should score ~80-85 I reckon which won't be as much as danger but frees you up a quick 220k

Your pick of ruck to one of Kruzeberger - I think NicNat and Maric are both great picks BUT I'll be surprised if they're both right up the top. My confidence is in NicNat but Maric could just as easily do it. Downgrading again gives a decent stepping stone and at least another 100k in the bank...

[felsty]

Hey felsty

I like the side, in terms of cash generation the moves I would be considering are:

Dangerfield to Rich - Rich I think is a solid stepping stone, should score ~80-85 I reckon which won't be as much as danger but frees you up a quick 220k

Your pick of ruck to one of Kruzeberger - I think NicNat and Maric are both great picks BUT I'll be surprised if they're both right up the top. My confidence is in NicNat but Maric could just as easily do it. Downgrading again gives a decent stepping stone and at least another 100k in the bank...

Two really good options to think about if it comes down to that, but I will prob look at smaller changes to my premos. Don't think I want to change up my structure that much. Thanks for the input!

[Jackross10]

Great side! One of the best I have seen, although I'd prefer Buddy to HB and also Simpson to Smith!

[felsty]

Great side! One of the best I have seen, although I'd prefer Buddy to HB and also Simpson to Smith!

HB a bit of a risk on my part but if he has a full preseason he could run amok.
Have always tried to stay away from KPF, and I think thats even more pronounced now with the addition of so many relevant mids this year.
I had Simpson last year, and despite averaging okay he put in some absolute shockers, which if he does again will make him an easy upgrade target. I'm backing Smith and Newnes to take the next step up in their footballing careers.

[fasttrack13]

Alright, think this might be my final team before preseason games..

B: Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Waters, Hamling, Dick (Edwards, Newman)
M: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ward, Dangerfield, Van Berlo, Freeman, Heeney (Ellis-Yolmen, Laverde, Lambert)
R: Maric, Natanui (Cox)
F: Goddard, Deledio, Bennell, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)

$28.5k remaining

Bye breakdown for my premos is 10/8/10 but if you include NVB and Waters in that (big if I know) it becomes 11/10/11
Even if I don't include them and attempt a double upgrade in Round 12 for Round 11 players (Beams & Burgoyne?) it ends up being 10/10/12

Obviously the biggest issue is the Round 12 players in my forward line (Goddard, Bennell, Swan) so being able to navigate my way through that could be the hardest part of my bye structure exercise, but we shall see what happens during the season.
The other issue is my funds, having only $28.5k to spend on getting the right rookies, however if push comes to shove I would probably make the changes in my midfield:

Ward > Sloane, Dangerfield > Griffen = $54.5k (to keep bye structure)

or even

Dangerfield > Crouch = $87.9k

Think Crouch has some massive upside if he has a full preseason. Cotchin is also a possibility at that price and with the same bye round.

What do people think?

I'd suggest finding $$ to get waters to a premo.to do so I'd downgrade Selwood/ward > crouch and Ellis yolemsnn to someone cheaper

[felsty]

I would probably look at upgrading him to Mayes if Waters doesn't get up
It's a good point because I have whacked him in there not really thinking about it too much
If he performs he will score like a keeper, so I haven't put that much though into him :/

[RaisyDaisy]

Nice team felsty!

The main concern I see his your backline. Newnes seems to be a really popular pick this year - everyone thinks he is going to breakout big time, and he could, but I'd probably want him at D4, or not at all

Waters at D4 then two rookies on field seems very optimistic at this stage. Hopefully for all our sake a lot of rookie defenders get games early

[nrich102]

Nice team mate, but what's with the Dangerfield pick? Interesting selection to me. I wouldn't be worrying too much about the bye structure at this stage, I try not to think too much of the byes and try to score as well as I can during the normal season then flower it all when it comes to the byes.

[Money Shot]

Alright, think this might be my final team before preseason games..

B: Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Waters, Hamling, Dick (Edwards, Newman)
M: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ward, Dangerfield, Van Berlo, Freeman, Heeney (Ellis-Yolmen, Laverde, Lambert)
R: Maric, Natanui (Cox)
F: Goddard, Deledio, Bennell, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)

$28.5k remaining

Bye breakdown for my premos is 10/8/10 but if you include NVB and Waters in that (big if I know) it becomes 11/10/11
Even if I don't include them and attempt a double upgrade in Round 12 for Round 11 players (Beams & Burgoyne?) it ends up being 10/10/12

Obviously the biggest issue is the Round 12 players in my forward line (Goddard, Bennell, Swan) so being able to navigate my way through that could be the hardest part of my bye structure exercise, but we shall see what happens during the season.

The other issue is my funds, having only $28.5k to spend on getting the right rookies, however if push comes to shove I would probably make the changes in my midfield:

Ward > Sloane, Dangerfield > Griffen = $54.5k (to keep bye structure)

or even

Dangerfield > Crouch = $87.9k

Think Crouch has some massive upside if he has a full preseason. Cotchin is also a possibility at that price and with the same bye round.

What do people think?

What I would look at doing here is
Danger>Crouch maybe lose 5 points but it will be worth it if you go one of your rookie picks in the defence to whitex as he could go 75 where as I don't see any of the defeders this year going 70+.

[felsty]

Alright, think this might be my final team before preseason games..

B: Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Waters, Hamling, Dick (Edwards, Newman)
M: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ward, Dangerfield, Van Berlo, Freeman, Heeney (Ellis-Yolmen, Laverde, Lambert)
R: Maric, Natanui (Cox)
F: Goddard, Deledio, Bennell, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)

$28.5k remaining

Bye breakdown for my premos is 10/8/10 but if you include NVB and Waters in that (big if I know) it becomes 11/10/11
Even if I don't include them and attempt a double upgrade in Round 12 for Round 11 players (Beams & Burgoyne?) it ends up being 10/10/12

Obviously the biggest issue is the Round 12 players in my forward line (Goddard, Bennell, Swan) so being able to navigate my way through that could be the hardest part of my bye structure exercise, but we shall see what happens during the season.

The other issue is my funds, having only $28.5k to spend on getting the right rookies, however if push comes to shove I would probably make the changes in my midfield:

Ward > Sloane, Dangerfield > Griffen = $54.5k (to keep bye structure)

or even

Dangerfield > Crouch = $87.9k

Think Crouch has some massive upside if he has a full preseason. Cotchin is also a possibility at that price and with the same bye round.

What do people think?

What I would look at doing here is
Danger>Crouch maybe lose 5 points but it will be worth it if you go one of your rookie picks in the defence to whitex as he could go 75 where as I don't see any of the defeders this year going 70+.

Not sure where I saw it but heard WhiteX will be coming through the VFL to begin with, so havent bothered to add him in.
Dangerfield > Crouch/Wines a huge possibility!

[crowls]

Alright, think this might be my final team before preseason games..

B: Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Waters, Hamling, Dick (Edwards, Newman)
M: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ward, Dangerfield, Van Berlo, Freeman, Heeney (Ellis-Yolmen, Laverde, Lambert)
R: Maric, Natanui (Cox)
F: Goddard, Deledio, Bennell, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)

$28.5k remaining

Bye breakdown for my premos is 10/8/10 but if you include NVB and Waters in that (big if I know) it becomes 11/10/11
Even if I don't include them and attempt a double upgrade in Round 12 for Round 11 players (Beams & Burgoyne?) it ends up being 10/10/12

Obviously the biggest issue is the Round 12 players in my forward line (Goddard, Bennell, Swan) so being able to navigate my way through that could be the hardest part of my bye structure exercise, but we shall see what happens during the season.
The other issue is my funds, having only $28.5k to spend on getting the right rookies, however if push comes to shove I would probably make the changes in my midfield:

Ward > Sloane, Dangerfield > Griffen = $54.5k (to keep bye structure)

or even

Dangerfield > Crouch = $87.9k

Think Crouch has some massive upside if he has a full preseason. Cotchin is also a possibility at that price and with the same bye round.

What do people think?

I'd suggest finding $$ to get waters to a premo.to do so I'd downgrade Selwood/ward > crouch and Ellis yolemsnn to someone cheaper

Great team and structure Feisty.   I see Danger as high teens,  crouch possible 110,  cotchin 110+
Time to sit and wait for NAB find our rookies.    Though it is hard to not keep playing with the team :D

[felsty]

any more discussion on this team, as it sits..

B: Smith, Shaw, Newnes, Waters, Hamling, Dick (Edwards, Newman)
M: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ward, Dangerfield, Van Berlo, Freeman, Heeney (Ellis-Yolmen, Laverde, Lambert)
R: Maric, Natanui (Cox)
F: Goddard, Deledio, Bennell, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)

$28.5k remaining

Bye breakdown for my premos is 10/8/10 but if you include NVB and Waters in that (big if I know) it becomes 11/10/11
Even if I don't include them and attempt a double upgrade in Round 12 for Round 11 players (Beams & Burgoyne?) it ends up being 10/10/12

Players I am a bit iffy about are Shaw and Ward. Can people find any other options for these two?