The Defender Premiums.

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elephants

Quote from: The_Captain on January 12, 2015, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: honza on January 12, 2015, 12:37:33 PM
To be honest I'm considering an upper midpricer spread of 7 defenders and using the rolling lockouts and emerency loop to weed out bad scores.

ohh gosh no.. can see that getting realll messy

Messy? Yes. But potentially genius :p

meow meow

Might work with the best 2 out of 3, but not the best 6 out of 7

The_Captain

Quote from: honza on January 12, 2015, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on January 12, 2015, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: honza on January 12, 2015, 12:37:33 PM
To be honest I'm considering an upper midpricer spread of 7 defenders and using the rolling lockouts and emerency loop to weed out bad scores.

ohh gosh no.. can see that getting realll messy
People do it with even rookies and get some success. Put a mid pricer with high standard deviation on the E, crack open your beer and enjoy the ride. Hell, people are already considering riding bare back and picking Thompson.

SO youll need to have someone fielded who gets a 0 every week?

honza

Quote from: The_Captain on January 12, 2015, 01:15:09 PM
SO youll need to have someone fielded who gets a 0 every week?
Funny thing the DP.

GCSkiwi

Quote from: Goosey on January 11, 2015, 06:41:58 PM
Hi All,

I must admit I read more than I write on this forum, the contributors write so freely and with confidence in their opinions, it is a great site for this.

I was looking into who were the best three premiums for my backline, and the overall averages are misleading (I think).

When I looked at B.Smith, K.Simpson, H.Shaw and their numbers from last season, their worst numbers aren't for good reading.

When I pick players, I look for reliability/durability (games played, preferably 22!), a good average score, but consistency in scoring seems like a good contributing factor to help decide on who you pick.

Therefore I am inclined to pick Malceski even though he is top dollar, plus S.Burgoyne, purely because they rarely disappoint with a really bad score (well, based on last year anyway). I like Hibberd as he is priced well and I had him last year, and think he can go better this year.

These are my current first three defenders, plus Waters and two rookies. Rohan is tempting, as is Whitecross if he gets a gig.

Well, there you go, a fair dinkum crack on my behalf. Thanks to everyone else who contributes to the forum.

I think that's actually a pretty fair assessment goosey, I'm staying away from Eski simply because I'd like to see what his move does to his scores, having said that the suns midfield is pretty scary really so he could thrive - wait and see what his role is there. I think consistency is good if your main concern is leagues, quite a few people on here have a crack at overall and we've had some real bolters in the last couple of years. Those are the types of coaches/teams where you wan't to pick maybe a slightly more risky player (Boomer Harvey is a great example), because at the end of the day their total points is what matters, so you pick a guy who can score 170 odd points and hope that he does that more often than he scores 40. Defenders there isn't really anyone like that so I think your approach of picking reliable players is a good one, everyone will have a slightly different definition for that.

Quote from: honza on January 12, 2015, 12:37:33 PM
To be honest I'm considering an upper midpricer spread of 7 defenders and using the rolling lockouts and emerency loop to weed out bad scores.

I started off thinking about this as a strategy, not so much trying to loophole every week but just thinking that the keepers are so hard to pick in defense, why not start with a midpricer line and consider them all to be stepping stones? Some like Newnes may end up keepers in any case. But I think if you're going to try and loophle every week, then
Quote from: meow meow on January 12, 2015, 01:08:35 PM
Might work with the best 2 out of 3, but not the best 6 out of 7
you'll struggle. I think it's almost a given if you have 7 mid pricers you'll get a couple of bad scores every week, one of them you'll be fielding...

R.Griffen

Quote from: elephants on January 12, 2015, 01:05:35 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on January 12, 2015, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: honza on January 12, 2015, 12:37:33 PM
To be honest I'm considering an upper midpricer spread of 7 defenders and using the rolling lockouts and emerency loop to weed out bad scores.

ohh gosh no.. can see that getting realll messy

Messy? Yes. But potentially genius :p

If this works, might aswell hand the price over now  ;)

eaglesman

Whilst many including myself have been flirting with a risky backline ...
I have swayed myself back to picking 3 premium defenders, newnes and at his stage geary at d5.

Heath shaw hasn't and will not leave my side.

i have picked Simpson hoping he can remain consistent, but I would just be happy with him scoring equal to the inevitable cheaper breakout player.

I then find myself torn between 4 Hawks at the other premium position.

Burgoyne hodge Gibson and birchall.
Currently I am backing in Burgoyne but would be interested to see which defender the community would choose?

Or should I stray away from
Any of these defenders and select a different option?

At this stage cash is not an issue

justaverage

Gibson, should be consistent never gets a tag and will have more freedom this year. Not worried by his age, defenders seem to stay good for longer.

eaglesman

Maybe Hawks defenders are a much of a muchness

RaisyDaisy

The backline is causing me never ending grief!  >:(

Which "premiums" should I/we actually start? What structure should we go with? Should we look at cheaper "premium" potentials like Houli, Lumumba, Newnes etc? Should we start 1 or 2 midpricers or none at all?

Driving me insane!

All I know is that Simpson and Heater are locked at D1&2 and Fisher is locked for me too, at either D3 or D4. Saad, Brown and Goddard fill 6-8, but it's those 2 remaining on field spots which are driving me crazy!

Premo at D3 and Premo at D5?
Premo at D3 and Mid Pricer at D5? Which Mid pricer?
Fisher at D3 and Lumumba/Newnes at D4 and Mid Pricer at D5?
Fisher at D3 with Lumumba and Newnes at 4 and 5?
Fisher at D3 with two midpricers at 4 and 5?

Argh!!

Gigantor

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2015, 11:05:09 PM
The backline is causing me never ending grief!  >:(

Which "premiums" should I/we actually start? What structure should we go with? Should we look at cheaper "premium" potentials like Houli, Lumumba, Newnes etc? Should we start 1 or 2 midpricers or none at all?

Driving me insane!

All I know is that Simpson and Heater are locked at D1&2 and Fisher is locked for me too, at either D3 or D4. Saad, Brown and Goddard fill 6-8, but it's those 2 remaining on field spots which are driving me crazy!

Premo at D3 and Premo at D5?
Premo at D3 and Mid Pricer at D5? Which Mid pricer?
Fisher at D3 and Lumumba/Newnes at D4 and Mid Pricer at D5?
Fisher at D3 with Lumumba and Newnes at 4 and 5?
Fisher at D3 with two midpricers at 4 and 5?

Argh!!
This one I like, I currently have Newnes, Ibbo, Macmillan at D4-6 but if 2 rooks on top of Brown look likely I'll downgrade Macmillan and upgrade Ibbo to Lumumba

Hagebear

Am loading up on defenders this year as I done see much in the form of rookies or mid pricers. At the moment am starting with.. K. Simpson, B. Smith, L. Hodge, S. Fisher, J. Newnes, H. Lumumba (N. Brown, M. Dick)

Not much love for Sam Fisher this year? Built for SC and seems to be over his injury worries??

AaronKirk

rejigged my defence again and now have Newnes at D5.

The abundance of forward rookies has allowed this to happen.

GCSkiwi

Quote from: Hagebear on March 15, 2015, 11:14:42 PM
Not much love for Sam Fisher this year? Built for SC and seems to be over his injury worries??

I really want to pick Fisher but I just don't trust him, 7,9,15 games in the last 3 seasons - solid as a rock prior to that, no doubt he can score well. I'm tossing up between taking the punt on Newnes or Fisher - Newnes will play but can he increase his output again like last season, vs Fisher can score but can he play out the season? For 10k more I'm starting to think Fisher could be a better option.

Fid

Quote from: GCSkiwi on March 16, 2015, 08:27:30 AM
Quote from: Hagebear on March 15, 2015, 11:14:42 PM
Not much love for Sam Fisher this year? Built for SC and seems to be over his injury worries??

I really want to pick Fisher but I just don't trust him, 7,9,15 games in the last 3 seasons - solid as a rock prior to that, no doubt he can score well. I'm tossing up between taking the punt on Newnes or Fisher - Newnes will play but can he increase his output again like last season, vs Fisher can score but can he play out the season? For 10k more I'm starting to think Fisher could be a better option.

Fisher's best years were when the Saints were good and his role was loose man in defence.  Not too sure he will have the same role in a much weaker team to that of his heyday, plus the fact that he turns 33 this season.