Quinnys team

Started by quinny88, December 23, 2014, 11:45:06 PM

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Samsturmfels

Love the team, very similar to mine (only 5 players different)
Just wondering, what are your thoughts on newnes

quinny88

Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 26, 2015, 06:31:47 PM
Love the team, very similar to mine (only 5 players different)
Just wondering, what are your thoughts on newnes

Thanks mate.

I don't have much of an opinion on him because I know very little about him to be perfectly honest.
Seen him in a lot of teams and I'm sure there's good reason for that but I've personally found that in the past I've be burned when I've got a player in that I don't know just because everyone else has him.

Bully

Nice team & nice structure, I flirted with the idea of leaving F6 exposed to a rookie but have decided against it given Ellis-Yolmen should outscore Hogan, particularly with Crouch being out. Other than that it looks the goods.

quinny88

Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 07:33:28 PM
Nice team & nice structure, I flirted with the idea of leaving F6 exposed to a rookie but have decided against it given Ellis-Yolmen should outscore Hogan, particularly with Crouch being out. Other than that it looks the goods.

Have played around with this idea myself but not sure how to generate the cash to bring another forward premo in. Would have to go with cheaper premiums and Wells which I still may do but not sold on at the moment.

I think Lambert is the key. If he can avoid the vest I think he can push a 70+  average which would be handy for F6

Bully

The only fat I can see in your line-up is Brown but this would be contingent on Hamling, Oxley or an Essendon rookie emerging. You could then swing Lambert to the mids and replace Griff with Bartel.

Another alternative could be Priddis to Danger, both are durable and capable of 110+ but Danger is a little cheaper.

quinny88

Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
The only fat I can see in your line-up is Brown but this would be contingent on Hamling, Oxley or an Essendon rookie emerging. You could then swing Lambert to the mids and replace Griff with Bartel.

Another alternative could be Priddis to Danger, both are durable and capable of 110+ but Danger is a little cheaper.

You think 4 prem mids is enough though?
Dont have Priddis anymore. Have gone with Sloane.
I'm not sold on Danger

Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on March 26, 2015, 08:51:42 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
The only fat I can see in your line-up is Brown but this would be contingent on Hamling, Oxley or an Essendon rookie emerging. You could then swing Lambert to the mids and replace Griff with Bartel.

Another alternative could be Priddis to Danger, both are durable and capable of 110+ but Danger is a little cheaper.

You think 4 prem mids is enough though?
Dont have Priddis anymore. Have gone with Sloane.
I'm not sold on Danger

I think it's enough given the depth of forward premiums. I really can't see too much difference between Griff & Gray, Bartel, Deledio etc. By swinging Lambert into the middle you always have the option of filling up M5 anyway, it gives you greater flexibility and will be handy over the bye period. If he's dropped you also have the luxury of a floating donut so all is not lost.

As for Danger, contract issues tend to effect KP players like Cloke and Franklin. There's very little evidence to suggest onballers greatly suffer. Danger will also be looking to gain maximum leverage in $ negotiations, can't see him shooting himself in the foot. Prior to last year he hit 112 & 118, his ceiling is also huge and he's missed 2 games in 4 years. Sloane has had one breakout year, can he back that up? The jury is still out.

quinny88

Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 26, 2015, 08:51:42 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
The only fat I can see in your line-up is Brown but this would be contingent on Hamling, Oxley or an Essendon rookie emerging. You could then swing Lambert to the mids and replace Griff with Bartel.

Another alternative could be Priddis to Danger, both are durable and capable of 110+ but Danger is a little cheaper.

You think 4 prem mids is enough though?
Dont have Priddis anymore. Have gone with Sloane.
I'm not sold on Danger

I think it's enough given the depth of forward premiums. I really can't see too much difference between Griff & Gray, Bartel, Deledio etc. By swinging Lambert into the middle you always have the option of filling up M5 anyway, it gives you greater flexibility and will be handy over the bye period. If he's dropped you also have the luxury of a floating donut so all is not lost.

As for Danger, contract issues tend to effect KP players like Cloke and Franklin. There's very little evidence to suggest onballers greatly suffer. Danger will also be looking to gain maximum leverage in $ negotiations, can't see him shooting himself in the foot. Prior to last year he hit 112 & 118, his ceiling is also huge and he's missed 2 games in 4 years. Sloane has had one breakout year, can he back that up? The jury is still out.

I feel like Griff will increase in Value though where as Gray will drop (Particularly early on)
You are right though that it looks more likely to find good scoring mid rookies rather than forwards so may readjust depending on which rookies are named round 1.

I more worry that Danger will be played out of position as coaches often do if they feel the player is gone to prepare for life after them.
Pretty confident Sloane will back it up. Just love his consistency

Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on March 26, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 26, 2015, 08:51:42 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
The only fat I can see in your line-up is Brown but this would be contingent on Hamling, Oxley or an Essendon rookie emerging. You could then swing Lambert to the mids and replace Griff with Bartel.

Another alternative could be Priddis to Danger, both are durable and capable of 110+ but Danger is a little cheaper.

You think 4 prem mids is enough though?
Dont have Priddis anymore. Have gone with Sloane.
I'm not sold on Danger

I think it's enough given the depth of forward premiums. I really can't see too much difference between Griff & Gray, Bartel, Deledio etc. By swinging Lambert into the middle you always have the option of filling up M5 anyway, it gives you greater flexibility and will be handy over the bye period. If he's dropped you also have the luxury of a floating donut so all is not lost.

As for Danger, contract issues tend to effect KP players like Cloke and Franklin. There's very little evidence to suggest onballers greatly suffer. Danger will also be looking to gain maximum leverage in $ negotiations, can't see him shooting himself in the foot. Prior to last year he hit 112 & 118, his ceiling is also huge and he's missed 2 games in 4 years. Sloane has had one breakout year, can he back that up? The jury is still out.

I feel like Griff will increase in Value though where as Gray will drop (Particularly early on)
You are right though that it looks more likely to find good scoring mid rookies rather than forwards so may readjust depending on which rookies are named round 1.

I more worry that Danger will be played out of position as coaches often do if they feel the player is gone to prepare for life after them.
Pretty confident Sloane will back it up. Just love his consistency

Don't think the coach will want to disrupt team plans to be vindictive, I also believe Danger hasn't yet made his mind up. I can certainly understand wanting to keep Griff but price is really irrelevant given you are picking him as a keeper. As for Gray, he's almost certainly a top 6 forward so best to have him from the beginning, his form has been outstanding in the preseason and he's every chance to climb to truly elite status. Even if you want to hold off on Gray there's Bartel to consider, I doubt he will fluctuate in price too greatly.




quinny88

Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 26, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 26, 2015, 08:51:42 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
The only fat I can see in your line-up is Brown but this would be contingent on Hamling, Oxley or an Essendon rookie emerging. You could then swing Lambert to the mids and replace Griff with Bartel.

Another alternative could be Priddis to Danger, both are durable and capable of 110+ but Danger is a little cheaper.

You think 4 prem mids is enough though?
Dont have Priddis anymore. Have gone with Sloane.
I'm not sold on Danger

I think it's enough given the depth of forward premiums. I really can't see too much difference between Griff & Gray, Bartel, Deledio etc. By swinging Lambert into the middle you always have the option of filling up M5 anyway, it gives you greater flexibility and will be handy over the bye period. If he's dropped you also have the luxury of a floating donut so all is not lost.

As for Danger, contract issues tend to effect KP players like Cloke and Franklin. There's very little evidence to suggest onballers greatly suffer. Danger will also be looking to gain maximum leverage in $ negotiations, can't see him shooting himself in the foot. Prior to last year he hit 112 & 118, his ceiling is also huge and he's missed 2 games in 4 years. Sloane has had one breakout year, can he back that up? The jury is still out.

I feel like Griff will increase in Value though where as Gray will drop (Particularly early on)
You are right though that it looks more likely to find good scoring mid rookies rather than forwards so may readjust depending on which rookies are named round 1.

I more worry that Danger will be played out of position as coaches often do if they feel the player is gone to prepare for life after them.
Pretty confident Sloane will back it up. Just love his consistency

Don't think the coach will want to disrupt team plans to be vindictive, I also believe Danger hasn't yet made his mind up. I can certainly understand wanting to keep Griff but price is really irrelevant given you are picking him as a keeper. As for Gray, he's almost certainly a top 6 forward so best to have him from the beginning, his form has been outstanding in the preseason and he's every chance to climb to truly elite status. Even if you want to hold off on Gray there's Bartel to consider, I doubt he will fluctuate in price too greatly.

I don't mean to be vindictive, I just mean to prepare for when he's gone. Like Hawthorn did with Buddy.
May not happen but I would rather wait and see on that one.

I agree price is irrelevant with Griff but when deciding between him and Gray I'm looking at one going north while the other goes south. Again, it may not happen but have to make a couple of tough calls here and there.

Bartel certainly someone I'm considering. Just have to wait for rookis to be named to decide weather I'll go with 5 prem mids 3 prep forwads or 4 and 4




Bully

Quote from: quinny88 on March 26, 2015, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 26, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 09:04:03 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 26, 2015, 08:51:42 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 26, 2015, 08:49:45 PM
The only fat I can see in your line-up is Brown but this would be contingent on Hamling, Oxley or an Essendon rookie emerging. You could then swing Lambert to the mids and replace Griff with Bartel.

Another alternative could be Priddis to Danger, both are durable and capable of 110+ but Danger is a little cheaper.

You think 4 prem mids is enough though?
Dont have Priddis anymore. Have gone with Sloane.
I'm not sold on Danger

I think it's enough given the depth of forward premiums. I really can't see too much difference between Griff & Gray, Bartel, Deledio etc. By swinging Lambert into the middle you always have the option of filling up M5 anyway, it gives you greater flexibility and will be handy over the bye period. If he's dropped you also have the luxury of a floating donut so all is not lost.

As for Danger, contract issues tend to effect KP players like Cloke and Franklin. There's very little evidence to suggest onballers greatly suffer. Danger will also be looking to gain maximum leverage in $ negotiations, can't see him shooting himself in the foot. Prior to last year he hit 112 & 118, his ceiling is also huge and he's missed 2 games in 4 years. Sloane has had one breakout year, can he back that up? The jury is still out.

I feel like Griff will increase in Value though where as Gray will drop (Particularly early on)
You are right though that it looks more likely to find good scoring mid rookies rather than forwards so may readjust depending on which rookies are named round 1.

I more worry that Danger will be played out of position as coaches often do if they feel the player is gone to prepare for life after them.
Pretty confident Sloane will back it up. Just love his consistency

Don't think the coach will want to disrupt team plans to be vindictive, I also believe Danger hasn't yet made his mind up. I can certainly understand wanting to keep Griff but price is really irrelevant given you are picking him as a keeper. As for Gray, he's almost certainly a top 6 forward so best to have him from the beginning, his form has been outstanding in the preseason and he's every chance to climb to truly elite status. Even if you want to hold off on Gray there's Bartel to consider, I doubt he will fluctuate in price too greatly.

I don't mean to be vindictive, I just mean to prepare for when he's gone. Like Hawthorn did with Buddy.
May not happen but I would rather wait and see on that one.

I agree price is irrelevant with Griff but when deciding between him and Gray I'm looking at one going north while the other goes south. Again, it may not happen but have to make a couple of tough calls here and there.

Bartel certainly someone I'm considering. Just have to wait for rookis to be named to decide weather I'll go with 5 prem mids 3 prep forwads or 4 and 4

Certainly rookies are all important, you already have the main ones. As another suggestion if you are short by a few K, Sloane to JPK could be an option. It's only 4k but could make a difference when you finalise your team. JPK is underpriced due to an early subbing late last year, it's made him reasonable value all things considered. 

quinny88

Always been one to back in my premiums and use trades on rookies at this time of year but Ablett has thrown a spanner in the works this year and it's very hard for me to see a reason to keep him.


D: Simpson, Shaw, Hibberd, Lumumba, Goodes, McIntosh (Saad, Oxley)

M: Ablett, Pendles, Selwood, JPK, Griffen, Newton, CEY, Heeney (Vandenberg, Cockatoo, Miller)

R: Maric, NicNat (Read)

F: Swan, Buddy, Dusty, Salem, Clark, Hogan (Lonie, Lamb)

$14,700

With the issues highlighted I'd love to be able to fix everything but obviously can't.

I think Cocky to NVB is an absolute must but to do this would require me to either trade Ablett to another super premium or Goodes > N.Brown.
Which of the highlighted issues should I be fixing first?




auscoyote

Lamb should be good to go next week ;)

YoungGun

Quote from: quinny88 on April 12, 2015, 11:02:08 PM
Always been one to back in my premiums and use trades on rookies at this time of year but Ablett has thrown a spanner in the works this year and it's very hard for me to see a reason to keep him.


D: Simpson, Shaw, Hibberd, Lumumba, Goodes, McIntosh (Saad, Oxley)

M: Ablett, Pendles, Selwood, JPK, Griffen, Newton, CEY, Heeney (Vandenberg, Cockatoo, Miller)

R: Maric, NicNat (Read)

F: Swan, Buddy, Dusty, Salem, Clark, Hogan (Lonie, Lamb)

$14,700

With the issues highlighted I'd love to be able to fix everything but obviously can't.

I think Cocky to NVB is an absolute must but to do this would require me to either trade Ablett to another super premium or Goodes > N.Brown.
Which of the highlighted issues should I be fixing first?





I personally am holding gaz BUT because you dont have fyfe i think you could. IMO if you are traded out gazza it has to be for Pendles or Fyfe i reckon.

Therefore you could do

Gaz > Fyfe and Cocky/Miller > NVB then worry about goodes next week

quinny88

Quote from: auscoyote on April 12, 2015, 11:04:27 PM
Lamb should be good to go next week ;)
Hard to break into a team that wins by 12 goals though