RaisyDaisy's Preseason Team Thread

[Ricochet]

You're being unfair on Belly. Interrupted season last year, came in half way through the year and battled.
Year before went 81
Year before that went 86
In those years he has averaged 90 and 101 without Ryder.

[Keeper27]

I'll be honest, i think he will be a VERY avg pick and you'll be forced to trade him out.
he'll give you 12 games with an avg of 75-80. he'll make 100K and the people who've chosen him will count that as a win.
he wont give you cover because you'll eventually trade him out.

Kreuz is a perfect example. kills me to say this being a Blue Boy but the blokes body is f*cked. Leuey & Belly too.

someone else pointed out how last year a mid priced (Sandi) and a Premo combo worked.
yes, it did because Sandi was a proven 100+ ruck and underpriced. Belly barely scraped over 85.
the bloke struggles to string 10+ games together, and when he does he's got a 79.4 avg

new SC ruck changes will affect Belly as it will affect the top end rucks.
play it safe. set n forget.

[Ricochet]

I'll be honest, i think he will be a VERY avg pick and you'll be forced to trade him out.
he'll give you 12 games with an avg of 75-80. he'll make 100K and the people who've chosen him will count that as a win.
he wont give you cover because you'll eventually trade him out.

Kreuz is a perfect example. kills me to say this being a Blue Boy but the blokes body is f*cked. Leuey & Belly too.

someone else pointed out how last year a mid priced (Sandi) and a Premo combo worked.
yes, it did because Sandi was a proven 100+ ruck and underpriced. Belly barely scraped over 85.
the bloke struggles to string 10+ games together, and when he does he's got a 79.4 avg

new SC ruck changes will affect Belly as it will affect the top end rucks.
play it safe. set n forget.

Oh we expect to trade him out man. Ok meet you half way, say he averages 80-85. He makes 150k just based on that and all the top end rucks come down also due to the rule changes. That could be a 200-250k gap that you close, especially if you catch a top end premo ruck on a bad patch and he drops in price even further.

[Keeper27]

ok, 80 @ max. (new rules and stuff) 100K made. and then trade.
Ruck cover while he's there. yes. worth it?? dunno.

its up to you guys.

[Ricochet]

ok, 80 @ max. (new rules and stuff) 100K made. and then trade.
Ruck cover while he's there. yes. worth it?? dunno.

its up to you guys.

Well 80 is like 130k. 83ave is 150k. which he'll do easily imo. Again, top end premo's drop and it makes it a 200k-250k gap that is closed. Definitely makes it worth it in my eyes, especially with the lack of rookie rucks this year and the uncertainty of how much top end rucks will be affected by the rule changes.

[GoLions]

ok, 80 @ max. (new rules and stuff) 100K made. and then trade.
Ruck cover while he's there. yes. worth it?? dunno.

its up to you guys.

Well 80 is like 130k. 83ave is 150k. which he'll do easily imo. Again, top end premo's drop and it makes it a 200k-250k gap that is closed. Definitely makes it worth it in my eyes, especially with the lack of rookie rucks this year and the uncertainty of how much top end rucks will be affected by the rule changes.

Are you factoring in the scoring change for Belly's avg as well? Doesn't really make a difference to me tbh, you're picking him to make cash, which he will. Still undecided on whether I'll start him or not. If I can scrape out an extra 80k or so, TMitch comes in.

[Ricochet]

ok, 80 @ max. (new rules and stuff) 100K made. and then trade.
Ruck cover while he's there. yes. worth it?? dunno.

its up to you guys.

Well 80 is like 130k. 83ave is 150k. which he'll do easily imo. Again, top end premo's drop and it makes it a 200k-250k gap that is closed. Definitely makes it worth it in my eyes, especially with the lack of rookie rucks this year and the uncertainty of how much top end rucks will be affected by the rule changes.

Are you factoring in the scoring change for Belly's avg as well? Doesn't really make a difference to me tbh, you're picking him to make cash, which he will. Still undecided on whether I'll start him or not. If I can scrape out an extra 80k or so, TMitch comes in.

Yeh man, basically I think normally he would go 90+ as a #1 ruck. so 85ish seems fair under the new scoring system

[GoLions]

ok, 80 @ max. (new rules and stuff) 100K made. and then trade.
Ruck cover while he's there. yes. worth it?? dunno.

its up to you guys.

Well 80 is like 130k. 83ave is 150k. which he'll do easily imo. Again, top end premo's drop and it makes it a 200k-250k gap that is closed. Definitely makes it worth it in my eyes, especially with the lack of rookie rucks this year and the uncertainty of how much top end rucks will be affected by the rule changes.

Are you factoring in the scoring change for Belly's avg as well? Doesn't really make a difference to me tbh, you're picking him to make cash, which he will. Still undecided on whether I'll start him or not. If I can scrape out an extra 80k or so, TMitch comes in.

Yeh man, basically I think normally he would go 90+ as a #1 ruck. so 85ish seems fair under the new scoring system

All good. Whether people pick him or not will basically be due to personal opinion. I'm thinking around the 80 mark myself, will see what happens in NAB

[Ricochet]

ok, 80 @ max. (new rules and stuff) 100K made. and then trade.
Ruck cover while he's there. yes. worth it?? dunno.

its up to you guys.

Well 80 is like 130k. 83ave is 150k. which he'll do easily imo. Again, top end premo's drop and it makes it a 200k-250k gap that is closed. Definitely makes it worth it in my eyes, especially with the lack of rookie rucks this year and the uncertainty of how much top end rucks will be affected by the rule changes.

Are you factoring in the scoring change for Belly's avg as well? Doesn't really make a difference to me tbh, you're picking him to make cash, which he will. Still undecided on whether I'll start him or not. If I can scrape out an extra 80k or so, TMitch comes in.

Yeh man, basically I think normally he would go 90+ as a #1 ruck. so 85ish seems fair under the new scoring system

All good. Whether people pick him or not will basically be due to personal opinion. I'm thinking around the 80 mark myself, will see what happens in NAB

Yeh and if any rookie rucks pop up or not. If they do then its a whole different ball game

[GoLions]

Haha exactly

[GoLions]

Thanks Ben. I'm hesitant not having any ruck cover, but I'd rather roll the dice there and keep the rest of my team solid instead of bringing in crappy mid pricers just because Waters isn't fit

The other option I am leaning towards is sticking with the original side above with Waters in it, but just downgrading NVB to a cheaper rookie like Krakouer, then upgrading Waters to KK as he has been training to use his run and play on the wing this season, which keeps Belly and everything else as is

So it's essentially these two teams I am looking to start for now

Team 1

DEF: Kade Simpson, Grant Birchall, Shannon Hurn, Sam Fisher, Kade Kolodjashnij, Brendan Whitecross (Hugh Goddard, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow)

MID: Gary Ablett, Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, Callan Ward, Nathan Freeman, Blair Boekhorst, Isaac Heeney Aaron Vandenberg (Jack Steele, Kane Lambert, Nathan Krakoeur)

RUC: Nic Naitanui, Matthew Kreuzer (Mason Cox)

FWD: Brendon Goddard, Lance Franklin, Dustin Martin, Dane Swan, Tom Bellchambers, Mitch Clark (Jesse Hogan, Caleb Daniel)

Team 2

DEF: Kade Simpson, Michael Hibberd, Grant Birchall, Shannon Hurn, Sam Fisher, Brendan Whitecross (Hugh Goddard, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow)

MID: Gary Ablett, Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, Callan Ward, Shane Biggs, Isaac Heeney, Blair Boekhorst, Nathan Freeman (Aaron Vandenberg, Jack Steele, Kane Lambert)

RUC: Nic Naitanui, Matthew Kreuzer (Mason Cox)

FWD: Brendon Goddard, Lance Franklin, Dustin Martin, Dane Swan, Mitch Clark, Jesse Hogan (Caleb Daniel, Nathan Krakouer)

Anyways, I think I like Team 2, and just switch Kreuzer for Belly?

[fasttrack13]

Better using belly as a Mid Price FWD rather than ruck. If you screw up ruck you'll be chasing whole year. If he screws up as a forward there will be another option averaging 80-100 around his price over the first 6-8 rounds

[RaisyDaisy]

Nice of you guys to have a long convo here lol :P

With Kreuzer now being out, I am yet to decide on which approach I will be taking. Leuey is the obvious choice, but either way I am still keeping Belly in the forwards

I'll update this thread sometime soon with a new side once I decide what I want to do

[Grufflez]

I'll be honest, i think he will be a VERY avg pick and you'll be forced to trade him out.
he'll give you 12 games with an avg of 75-80. he'll make 100K and the people who've chosen him will count that as a win.
he wont give you cover because you'll eventually trade him out.

Kreuz is a perfect example. kills me to say this being a Blue Boy but the blokes body is f*cked. Leuey & Belly too.

someone else pointed out how last year a mid priced (Sandi) and a Premo combo worked.
yes, it did because Sandi was a proven 100+ ruck and underpriced. Belly barely scraped over 85.
the bloke struggles to string 10+ games together, and when he does he's got a 79.4 avg

new SC ruck changes will affect Belly as it will affect the top end rucks.
play it safe. set n forget.

Agree with all of thee above except that set and forget is the only way....enter stage left Lycett.

[RaisyDaisy]

OK, so now that Kreuzer has injured himself and Waters has retired I have come up with this team

I will say that I'm not 100% loving it, but for now I've decided to go with a 5 premo backline and avoid all the mid pricers down there. In doing so I've gone lighter in the forwards but that's because there are plenty of good value cheap options. I have managed to go with what I think will be a unique approach by having a set and forget ruck plus Belly as cover :)

DEF: Kade Simpson, Brodie Smith, Grant Birchall, Shannon Hurn, Sam Fisher, Brendan Whitecross (Hugh Goddard, Dillon Viojo-Rainbow)

MID: Gary Ablett, Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, Callan Ward, Nakia Cockatoo, Isaac Heeney, Blaine Boekhorst, Nathan Freeman (Aaron Vandenberg, Jack Steele, Kane Lambert)

RUC: Ivan Maric, Nic Naitanui (Tom Read)

FWD: Lance Franklin, Dustin Martin, Dane Swan, Tom Bellchambers, Christian Salem, Mitch Clark (Jesse Hogan, Nathan Krakouer)

27.4k remaining

Feels wrong leaving out both Lids and Goddard, but I can easily replace Buddy or Dusty with them. I've decided to leave them out for now simply due to hearing about Lids Achilles issues, and I really want to start Buddy and Dusty I think so Goddard misses  :-\

As usual, welcome feedback and suggestions :)