SC 2015 Rico's Boys

[Ricochet]

Your defence looks really strong but it has resulted in your MIDS looking a bit weak. I would trade out one of your premo DEFS for a premo MID.

Your midfield looks good but as I said, I would try to add in one more premo. To make a bit of extra cash I would also downgrade Brayshaw as I doubt he will play round 1 as Roos likes to ease the kids in.

I'm pretty keen to run with that backline/mid structure man. THe defence line this year is by far the weakest in terms of solid rookies. So I'm happy to load up there. Also with the strength of this year's draft plus some cheap recruits, the midfield will be the biggest cash generator this year (like most years).
Disagree about your comment on Brayshaw/Roos. Kennedy-Harris played from round 1. If they're ready they'll play and Brayshaw is quality so I expect him to play straight away unless he has an interrupted preseason.

I like Nic Nat and Leuenberger but having Bellchambers on your ruck bench is too much money sitting on the pine. I would move Belly forward and bring in Cox as R3.

Your fwds look good. I prefer 4 premos and Belly here but 3 premos is good also. Lids, Swan and Goddard will be in every good team I would think.

Yeh have had a play with Belly in the fwd line so will see which is better come the start of the year. Just want to keep those fwd rookies on hand as a reminder that all could play

[ben_020285]

Your defence looks really strong but it has resulted in your MIDS looking a bit weak. I would trade out one of your premo DEFS for a premo MID.

Your midfield looks good but as I said, I would try to add in one more premo. To make a bit of extra cash I would also downgrade Brayshaw as I doubt he will play round 1 as Roos likes to ease the kids in.

I'm pretty keen to run with that backline/mid structure man. THe defence line this year is by far the weakest in terms of solid rookies. So I'm happy to load up there. Also with the strength of this year's draft plus some cheap recruits, the midfield will be the biggest cash generator this year (like most years).
Disagree about your comment on Brayshaw/Roos. Kennedy-Harris played from round 1. If they're ready they'll play and Brayshaw is quality so I expect him to play straight away unless he has an interrupted preseason.

I like Nic Nat and Leuenberger but having Bellchambers on your ruck bench is too much money sitting on the pine. I would move Belly forward and bring in Cox as R3.

Your fwds look good. I prefer 4 premos and Belly here but 3 premos is good also. Lids, Swan and Goddard will be in every good team I would think.

Yeh have had a play with Belly in the fwd line so will see which is better come the start of the year. Just want to keep those fwd rookies on hand as a reminder that all could play

JKH is the exception to the rule. Even in his Swans days, Roos very rarely gave early games to his young recruits. As a Dees supporter I have been following them closely in the off-season reading many training reports. Brayshaw has been solid at training without being a stand out. JKH was a stand out in his first pre-season and was great in NAB so pretty much had to be picked round 1. I doubt any of this years recruits will be named round 1 at this stage and if one was lucky enough to get picked then they would be extremely likely to wear the green sub vest in their first few games.

[Ricochet]

Ok had another play. Have changed my views on a few things slightly and looked at the byes quickly. Had to change Barlow unfortunately due to bye and couldn't go to Fyfe, so had to look at Jelwood.




Notes
- Rookies are just placeholders atm
- Was tossing up between Walker and Hurn. Hurn has a better bye but Walker has proven to score a lot higher so running with him.
- In terms of premo keepers (+ Krooz and Belly who'll Could be keepers or will hang onto until all rookies are upgraded) my bye structure is 5/6/4 which isn't ideal. But I think I can make it work, especially when a lot of the safer rookies are the last bye.


Earlier Notes to Keep in Mind
- Other fwds to consider were Jack Steele, Caleb Daniel, Markworth, Sylvia (206k), Membrey, Blease, Petracca, MMcGovern, Lecras, JThomas, etc.
- Other mids to consider were Heeney, Rich, Waterman, Stretch, Boekhorst, Cavka, Vanderberg, Anderson, Cockatoo, O'Rourke, Cripps, Newton, Acres, etc (main concern is Heeney's JS, but I think he'll surprise a few and play)
- Real focus on Guns N Rooks this year
- strongly considering HBennell, DMart, Ziebell up fwd and Krooz in the rucks.

[Nige]

I like the look of that Rico, a fairly good effort.

Hibberd and Shaw I like down back, not too keen on the Blues fellas but that's probably because I'm not Vin. Waters and Whitecross scare me a little, along with Ibbo. Honestly, I think I'll end up with at least one of three. Probably Beau, so I guess what I'm trying to say is watch how they're tracking. Who are you looking at if they're not right?

That's one hell of a midfield, star studded and a good structure, even the rooks are fairly solid choices. Everyone you've picked has good reason to be picked, can't go wrong with any of them.

I'm not keen on either of the rucks you have, but that's just me. NicNat's a value pick, but I've never been a Kreuzer guy. If you were to replace Kreuz, who do you think you would put in for him?

Not keen on Belly, but I get why you have him. He's probably the only one I'd replace. I think you could afford to go either way in somehow bringing in another premo or jumping on somebody like Clark/Hogan. Also like the consideration of Harley, got me thinking as well.

In summary, it looks good mate, I wouldn't change too much.

[Ricochet]

Cheers for the feedback man.

I like the look of that Rico, a fairly good effort.

Hibberd and Shaw I like down back, not too keen on the Blues fellas but that's probably because I'm not Vin. Waters and Whitecross scare me a little, along with Ibbo. Honestly, I think I'll end up with at least one of three. Probably Beau, so I guess what I'm trying to say is watch how they're tracking. Who are you looking at if they're not right?

Yeh I'm happy with this defence. Simpson just always posts a 90-95 average. He may be a rollercoaster sometimes but he is a lock in for that average and much more proven than guys like BSmith. It was a toss up between Hurn and Walker but because Walker has proven he has a much higher ceiling I'm leaning his way. At this stage both Water and Whitecross are looking good for Round 1 so they're locked atm. Whitecross has concerns about JS but he still has greater JS than any other defender rookie atm. And Waters is a low cost risk that could potentially return premo numbers. If they don't get up then I'll look at a Premo/Rookie combo.

That's one hell of a midfield, star studded and a good structure, even the rooks are fairly solid choices. Everyone you've picked has good reason to be picked, can't go wrong with any of them.

Yeh purely looking at 120+ mids for my top 4 and they fit niceley with byes. Would have prefered either Fyfe or Barlow over Jelwood but their bye pushes them out.

I'm not keen on either of the rucks you have, but that's just me. NicNat's a value pick, but I've never been a Kreuzer guy. If you were to replace Kreuz, who do you think you would put in for him?

I am :P Nic Nat is the best SC ruck scorers around when he is fit and he's having one of his best preseasons in a while. He'll outscore guys like Goldy, especially now Cox has retired. Krooz is a better pick than Leuey so going with him at this stage, but if Krooz is no good then Leuey comes in.

Not keen on Belly, but I get why you have him. He's probably the only one I'd replace. I think you could afford to go either way in somehow bringing in another premo or jumping on somebody like Clark/Hogan. Also like the consideration of Harley, got me thinking as well.

In summary, it looks good mate, I wouldn't change too much.

Yeh need Belly for ruck cover and he is really really good value. He will go 80+ and possibly higher as a #1 ruck. Expecting an 85+ ave from him, plus that flexibility between the ruck and fwd line will be important.

[Ricochet]

Ok had another play. Have changed my views on a few things slightly and looked at the byes quickly. Had to change Barlow unfortunately due to bye and couldn't go to Fyfe, so had to look at Jelwood.




Notes
- Rookies are just placeholders atm
- Was tossing up between Walker and Hurn. Hurn has a better bye but Walker has proven to score a lot higher so running with him.
- In terms of premo keepers (+ Krooz and Belly who'll Could be keepers or will hang onto until all rookies are upgraded) my bye structure is 5/6/4 which isn't ideal. But I think I can make it work, especially when a lot of the safer rookies are the last bye.


Earlier Notes to Keep in Mind
- Other fwds to consider were Jack Steele, Caleb Daniel, Markworth, Sylvia (206k), Membrey, Blease, Petracca, MMcGovern, Lecras, JThomas, etc.
- Other mids to consider were Heeney, Rich, Waterman, Stretch, Boekhorst, Cavka, Vanderberg, Anderson, Cockatoo, O'Rourke, Cripps, Newton, Acres, etc (main concern is Heeney's JS, but I think he'll surprise a few and play)
- Real focus on Guns N Rooks this year
- strongly considering HBennell, DMart, Ziebell up fwd and Krooz in the rucks.

Changed a few things up just to compare.



Basically its...

Selwood + Walker + Rookie
vs
Cotchin + Ibbotson + Steven

[GoLions]

I prefer Jelwood/Walker/Rookie

No guarantee that Ibbo and Steven (and even Cotchin) will be keepers by the end of the year. Massive risk, although I guess you do have to take some risks in this game.

[Ricochet]

I prefer Jelwood/Walker/Rookie

No guarantee that Ibbo and Steven (and even Cotchin) will be keepers by the end of the year. Massive risk, although I guess you do have to take some risks in this game.

Yeh thinking that as well man

[Bully]

I like the Cotch pick myself, from round 15 he produced the numbers I would expect from an M7-M8, this directly coincided with Miles & Maric entering the fray - amazing what a difference these guys can make. Richmond's draw is also ripe for Cotch to bolt out of the blocks.

[H1bb3i2d]

Not sure I like wither Walker or Ibbo, don't think Walker will be playing off that HBF. Of course if he is, go for it. Plenty of Newnes/Fisher guys just cheaper or Birchall guys not much more expensive, so a replacement won't be hard if you want to change him.

Don't think Cotchin is quite there with the super-premiums, and don't think he's cheap enough to be a slightly lower scoring M8. Steven may well be, but if you have both these guys, what happens if a 110 averaging player does a Priddis/Goddard? You either have to pass up a ridiculous bargain, or be playing 3 of these guys, which will mean you're gonna be missing a lot of the Fyfe/JPK/Ward/Sloane types from your final team. Start the guns and upgrade to the bargains, not the other way around, is my philosophy. Better bargains will show up during the season.

I think Goddard is a shoe-in for 107-112, remember his injury game. Probably better than Dusty.

I like Jelwood/rookie for the reasons above.

Otherwise your team is great!

[Ricochet]

I like the Cotch pick myself, from round 15 he produced the numbers I would expect from an M7-M8, this directly coincided with Miles & Maric entering the fray - amazing what a difference these guys can make. Richmond's draw is also ripe for Cotch to bolt out of the blocks.

Yeh I do as well mate. Just trying to figure out the gap between he and Jelwood

[Ricochet]

Not sure I like wither Walker or Ibbo, don't think Walker will be playing off that HBF. Of course if he is, go for it. Plenty of Newnes/Fisher guys just cheaper or Birchall guys not much more expensive, so a replacement won't be hard if you want to change him.

Don't think Cotchin is quite there with the super-premiums, and don't think he's cheap enough to be a slightly lower scoring M8. Steven may well be, but if you have both these guys, what happens if a 110 averaging player does a Priddis/Goddard? You either have to pass up a ridiculous bargain, or be playing 3 of these guys, which will mean you're gonna be missing a lot of the Fyfe/JPK/Ward/Sloane types from your final team. Start the guns and upgrade to the bargains, not the other way around, is my philosophy. Better bargains will show up during the season.

I think Goddard is a shoe-in for 107-112, remember his injury game. Probably better than Dusty.

I like Jelwood/rookie for the reasons above.

Otherwise your team is great!

Thanks mate, pretty much my thoughts as well. Leaning towards Jelwood + the rookie.

On Goddard v Dusty. I originally had Goddard but Dusty will be getting more midfield time this year so could explode and if Bombers are hit with bans then Goddard will be playing with a bunch of VFL players and rookies. So not sure how that will affect him. Will reassess Ibbo/Walker come NAB i think

[fasttrack13]

Really good team, you'd just hate it if cotch&Steven had to be traded out because of poor performance. One and only thing I can querry

[Ricochet]

Really good team, you'd just hate it if cotch&Steven had to be traded out because of poor performance. One and only thing I can querry

Yeh I've definitely reverted back to the original but now trying a few different things...


which includes Krooz at R1, Leuey at R2 and Belly at F5

[_wato]

Yeh I've definitely reverted back to the original but now trying a few different things...


which includes Krooz at R1, Leuey at R2 and Belly at F5

Interested to see man, what does that team look like with those players in that position? Kreuz at R1, Leuey at R2