10th Hyundai A-League Season

[Jroo]

Champions!!!!  8) 8)

[elephants]

The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.

What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...

[The_Captain]

Should of been a glory victory grand final. Wouldn't of been a one sided joke if we played.

Tainted tittle for victory. Didn't have to play the best!

[Holz]

The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.

What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...

see,

even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.

[The_Captain]

The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.

What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...

see,

even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.

Sydney suckkk. We would of crushed our way to the gf.

in the 3 times we played victory we won once and the other 2 were draws. Had them covered ezyyyyyyy

[elephants]

The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.

What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...

see,

even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.

I love when people present their opinion as fact.

"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.

Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.

[Holz]

The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.

What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...

see,

even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.

I love when people present their opinion as fact.

"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.

Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.

Its not tainted you cheated and where caught. That's the fact. It's not like you were robbed.

Victory finished top and killed everyone in the finals. You can't do any more than that.

[elephants]

The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.

What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...

see,

even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.

I love when people present their opinion as fact.

"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.

Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.

Its not tainted you cheated and where caught. That's the fact. It's not like you were robbed.

Victory finished top and killed everyone in the finals. You can't do any more than that.

Its tainted. Not every side was given equal opportunity.

Of course, we paid some of our players more than we should have, but the punishment was ridiculous and eliminated us from the competition.

Tainted title.

[Holz]

The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.

What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...

see,

even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.

I love when people present their opinion as fact.

"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.

Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.

Its not tainted you cheated and where caught. That's the fact. It's not like you were robbed.

Victory finished top and killed everyone in the finals. You can't do any more than that.

Its tainted. Not every side was given equal opportunity.

Of course, we paid some of our players more than we should have, but the punishment was ridiculous and eliminated us from the competition.

Tainted title.

yes they weren't I agree. All but one side played under a cap and had the same opportunity. One club played outside the rule and unfairly beat teams that played in the rules.

Glory's wins are tainted not Victory's championship.

[elephants]

The only annoying thing is Perth fans will say it was the ban.

What a ridiculous comment. The ban was the only reason we weren't in finals so we never had a chance to do anything...

see,

even in the finals I dont see you going past Sydney or Melbourne, but now you have this excuse up your sleeve. Victory where the minor premiers regardless of the ban and crushed their opponents in the finals with 2 3-0 victories. there was nothing stopping them, even a glory over the salary cap.

I love when people present their opinion as fact.

"I don't see you beating these teams therefore you wouldn't therefore you're lucky you have an excuse.

Yeah alright m8, tainted title for Victory.

Its not tainted you cheated and where caught. That's the fact. It's not like you were robbed.

Victory finished top and killed everyone in the finals. You can't do any more than that.

Its tainted. Not every side was given equal opportunity.

Of course, we paid some of our players more than we should have, but the punishment was ridiculous and eliminated us from the competition.

Tainted title.

yes they weren't I agree. All but one side played under a cap and had the same opportunity. One club played outside the rule and unfairly beat teams that played in the rules.

Glory's wins are tainted not Victory's championship.

You're significantly over-estimating the impact of salary cap breaches on the rest of the competition haha. Yes its bad and needs to be stamped out, but players don't magically play better because they're being paid more than the FFA thinks they are.

I'm not trying to justify our breach of the salary cap. I'm just saying Victory didn't beat the best team in the league. Tainted trophy.

[Luigi197]

One fact is that Glory would not have had the same size and talent squad if they were under the normal salary cap rules.

[Holz]

One fact is that Glory would not have had the same size and talent squad if they were under the normal salary cap rules.

this exactly it, players dont play better with more money, but you can afford better players with more money.

                                         P      W     L      D       +     -       =     Points
MELBOURNE VICTORY   27   15   8   4   56   31   25   53
PERTH GLORY                    27   14   8   5   45   35   10   50

cheating or no cheating Victory where better anyway. won more games conceded less goals and scored far far more goals. outscored the league by 25 points to only 10 by Glory.

so you broker the rules and still where inferior.

also Sydney FC where better too. Same amount of points but again a 17 point goal difference to 10.

SYDNEY FC   27   14   8   5   52   35   17   50

So in the end the best and second best team played off in the grandfinal and victory killed them 3-0.

[elephants]

You really think once Glory were banned from finals that they were going to be putting in 100%? The entire incentive is gone. Who cares how they ended up.

The fact you've gone into so much detail trying to justify how 'un-tainted' Melbourne's trophy was clearly highlights the fact you think it needs sufficient justification haha

[Holz]

You really think once Glory were banned from finals that they were going to be putting in 100%? The entire incentive is gone. Who cares how they ended up.

The fact you've gone into so much detail trying to justify how 'un-tainted' Melbourne's trophy was clearly highlights the fact you think it needs sufficient justification haha

you said i presented opinion as fact. than I presented facts.

when glory finally win an A league ill say they are a good club. As Victory sit on 3/10 and 4/10 finals apperances, as the best A league team ever.

[elephants]

Haha oh well, good work. The title was tainted. Glory was easily the best team all season until they were found guilty of a salary cap breach.

Funny that when Sydney FC were found guilty they were only fined 44k and docked three points.

But when Glory were found guilty and were fined 269k and banned from finals.

Oh yeah, seems fair.