Jason "Licka" Winderlich wants out of Bomberland,finish his career at the Tigers

[Ziplock]

Great decision from Licka. The club is in shambles and i wouldn't be surprised if more try to get out over the next few days to abandon the sinking ship!

although I agree with your observation ... i find it difficult to NOT to be sympathetic considering the constant barrage from the media/opposing supporters such as yourself.

I feel no need to stick the knife in an already wounded club / supporter base

There's also not many clubs that would jack all their players up and not record what they gave them.

Ziplock you must be a miserable person.

I honestly don't understand why people would go to the effort to troll other teams discussion forums with nothing to contribute to the conversation...it's probably the biggest downside to Fanfooty.. having people like you and Torpedo10 are a cancer to what was once a good place
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Not particularly.

What I said was completely justifiable and contextual contribution to the conversation-

there's not many clubs that would stick with Licka for that long with his injuries...

you have someone saying that he should stay with essendon because they've been good to him, so I responded likewise saying it's reasonable for him to leave because of the shower the club's put their players through. It's a completely valid point.

[Hellopplz]

Lol torp is a bombers support so that's really amusing your comment about him

Yeah he is, and to be honest some bomber fans don't blame players for leaving if they choose to do so because of the dragged out dramas that follow the club.

And eski_liddr, we've had worse people in the past who would legitimately troll some boards and pick on certain clubs/supporters, can never stop that on an open forum :(.

[LF]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-10-24/no-wind-up-for-winders

Now confirmed he`ll play on

[Torpedo10]

Haha I just noticed this, I might as well defend myself after being said to be the "cancer" of FanFooty.

I've been a Bombers supporter my whole life and I'm devastated about what has happened. I hate that I walk out the door and all people everywhere say you support a team of drug cheats. Players leaving the club of which I turned up to training to watch them is devastating for me and for other supporters in my position.

I don't see anything wrong with what I said honestly, the players leaving would be the finish of a horrible period and I honestly can't believe that only 2 years ago there looked to be a bright, prosperous future for the club. Back then a premiership looked possible within 5 years. Now I can't see us winning one for at least another 5.

On Zippys comment though, I totally disagree. I reckon there's a lot of clubs that would do that, the difference is a lot of head coaches who have played the game before would stop it. Hirdy was to close to the club and came back too early.

[DazBurg]

not exactly how accurate this is but i did read

"Essendon has had the lowest turn over of players of all AFL lists last 2 seasons"

again just posted by a supporter so maybe untrue as have not taken the time to investigate the claim myself ;)

[AFEV]

Would be surprised if it were true, although we have had a low turnover.
As for a premiership, if players get 2 year bans and we don't get the subsequent picks from being shower for those years, I think we'd be looking at 8+ years, our midfield group is very old, and the top line talent replacing them doesn't look like it will quite be as good as what was already a so-so mid group.

[DazBurg]

Would be surprised if it were true, although we have had a low turnover.
As for a premiership, if players get 2 year bans and we don't get the subsequent picks from being shower for those years, I think we'd be looking at 8+ years, our midfield group is very old, and the top line talent replacing them doesn't look like it will quite be as good as what was already a so-so mid group.

true and i have no idea if it was just trades or included delistings etc
cause if delist the draft sanctions would play a part in delisting less ppl

[Torpedo10]

Would be surprised if it were true, although we have had a low turnover.
As for a premiership, if players get 2 year bans and we don't get the subsequent picks from being shower for those years, I think we'd be looking at 8+ years, our midfield group is very old, and the top line talent replacing them doesn't look like it will quite be as good as what was already a so-so mid group.

Agreed Ax, why I said at least 5 years, likely more.

[Mailman the 2nd]

Yeah I think people saying that there would be a high turnover early on were being a bit dramatic.

Probably will happen on a year to year basis with the results shown in 5-10 years time

[silloc]

The reason for the low turn over is because we haven't had the draft picks to replace players. We would have let licka and fletch retire, plus probably wouldn't have held onto van unen and probably a few others.

[kilbluff1985]

The reason for the low turn over is because we haven't had the draft picks to replace players. We would have let licka and fletch retire, plus probably wouldn't have held onto van unen and probably a few others.

yeah i don't think draft picks have anything to do with Fletch and Licka playing next year

[silloc]

The reason for the low turn over is because we haven't had the draft picks to replace players. We would have let licka and fletch retire, plus probably wouldn't have held onto van unen and probably a few others.

yeah i don't think draft picks have anything to do with Fletch and Licka playing next year

maybe not, but losing 3 draft picks means we'd potentially have gotten rid of 3 extra players

[kilbluff1985]

The reason for the low turn over is because we haven't had the draft picks to replace players. We would have let licka and fletch retire, plus probably wouldn't have held onto van unen and probably a few others.

yeah i don't think draft picks have anything to do with Fletch and Licka playing next year

maybe not, but losing 3 draft picks means we'd potentially have gotten rid of 3 extra players

or just not use the later picks  ;)

[Ziplock]

The reason for the low turn over is because we haven't had the draft picks to replace players. We would have let licka and fletch retire, plus probably wouldn't have held onto van unen and probably a few others.

yeah i don't think draft picks have anything to do with Fletch and Licka playing next year

maybe not, but losing 3 draft picks means we'd potentially have gotten rid of 3 extra players

or just not use the later picks  ;)

[silloc]

hence why I said potentially, but you'd imagine we would of used more than 2 last year. Isn't there normally a rule on how many you have to turnover in the draft?