Official Trades List 2014 - Trade Period 1

[R.Griffen]

El Paso give:  P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown

2014 Averages
Danger 92,Crouch 96,Shenton 52
Hanley 98,Sidey 108,Brown 57

Danger and Hanley likely to lose DPP,Shenton likely to be def and Brown likely a fwd only not sure if they have factored this in at all would be nice to know this from the coaches involved in the trade :)
If the proposed positional cchanges happen you have 2 mids with higher averages are being traded for 2 mids with lower averages that may or mat not boost their averages next year.Brown seems to have cemented a spot in the Roos best 22 where Shenton is in and out of the team and seems to be a fringe player atm.

Does Brown have a spot when Waite is there?

[LF]

El Paso give:  P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown

2014 Averages
Danger 92,Crouch 96,Shenton 52
Hanley 98,Sidey 108,Brown 57

Danger and Hanley likely to lose DPP,Shenton likely to be def and Brown likely a fwd only not sure if they have factored this in at all would be nice to know this from the coaches involved in the trade :)
If the proposed positional cchanges happen you have 2 mids with higher averages are being traded for 2 mids with lower averages that may or mat not boost their averages next year.Brown seems to have cemented a spot in the Roos best 22 where Shenton is in and out of the team and seems to be a fringe player atm.

Does Brown have a spot when Waite is there?

Apparently he does

[elephants]

El Paso give:  P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown

2014 Averages
Danger 92,Crouch 96,Shenton 52
Hanley 98,Sidey 108,Brown 57

Danger and Hanley likely to lose DPP,Shenton likely to be def and Brown likely a fwd only not sure if they have factored this in at all would be nice to know this from the coaches involved in the trade :)
If the proposed positional cchanges happen you have 2 mids with higher averages are being traded for 2 mids with lower averages that may or mat not boost their averages next year.Brown seems to have cemented a spot in the Roos best 22 where Shenton is in and out of the team and seems to be a fringe player atm.

Does Brown have a spot when Waite is there?

Apparently he does

Think Aaron Black might be the one to struggle a bit.

[Memphistopheles]

Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + Nat 33 + C.Moller + Nat 40


El Paso give:  P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown

After some concern over these two trades raised by other coaches we are posting them for comment by other coaches. If you are involved in these trades please post reasons as to why you want the players/picks in question and why you are trading your players/picks.

Given this is a Dreamteam scoring game I would be happy with both trades as they are not too unbalanced though there a couple of slight reservations.

The first trade - due to Lewis' age I think Vancouver are giving up a little too much. I would take Nat 28 and Nat 40 off that deal from their respective sides and it would be fine.

The second trade at first glance is like oh my god he's giving up Dangerfield and Crouch - that's way to much as these guys are/will be gun players. However, in DT scoring terms Hanley and Sidebottom are just as good as those two and Ben Brown is more useful (as a fwd/ruc) than Shenton imo so that balances the trade.

I'd actually say this one is biased towards they guy getting Hanley if he stays a back (he's arguably close to the #1 premo back then if he improves again a little next year) and Danger loses fwd but, honestly I think both Danger and Hanley will be mid only next season (or if not the one after) so it's all good.

[elephants]

My thoughts on the second trade basically mirror what Memph has said. A lot hinges on dpp but the fact I think all will be mid only has it all square for mine.

[Football Factory]

Not going to go into much detail cos i have a throat infection and my brain hurts  ;D

I don't have a big problem with the second trade (Danger, Hanley,Sidebum) but the first trade needs to be worked on imo

[R.Griffen]

El Paso give:  P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown

2014 Averages
Danger 92,Crouch 96,Shenton 52
Hanley 98,Sidey 108,Brown 57

Danger and Hanley likely to lose DPP,Shenton likely to be def and Brown likely a fwd only not sure if they have factored this in at all would be nice to know this from the coaches involved in the trade :)
If the proposed positional cchanges happen you have 2 mids with higher averages are being traded for 2 mids with lower averages that may or mat not boost their averages next year.Brown seems to have cemented a spot in the Roos best 22 where Shenton is in and out of the team and seems to be a fringe player atm.

Does Brown have a spot when Waite is there?

Apparently he does

Think Aaron Black might be the one to struggle a bit.

That's what everyone is thinking but on trade radio they have talked to North Listmanagers and Blacks agent and he signed a 4 year deal not long ago and was injured most of last year apparently. Just seems like to me they want to stick with him. But In my mind Brown is better anyway

[LF]

My opinion on the first trade is pretty much the same as Memph

[Grannyboy]

I can't remember Black practically winning them a final, on the colour scale Brown comes before Black.
Plus he looks like Sideshow Bob :o

[Grannyboy]

My opinion on the first trade is pretty much the same as Memph

The fact that both trades involve Vancouver and they're both slightly in favour of the other team is a concern of mine. PM effectively loses 5 or so starting players and gains 3 or so starters depending on Brown in both trades. Also gives up better Nat draft pick than the 2 he gets back and I'm not convinced Moller will play regular football anytime soon if ever.
Trade 1 needs some work imo.

[elephants]

My opinion on the first trade is pretty much the same as Memph

The fact that both trades involve Vancouver and they're are both slightly in favour of the other team is a concern of mine. PM effectively loses 5 or so starting players and gains 3 or so starters depending on Brown in both trades. Also gives up better Nat draft pick than the 2 he gets back and I'm not convinced Moller will play regular football anytime soon if ever.

I'm of the opinion that trades should be looked at as they are, not dependant on other deals that are going on. I see where you're coming from though and I understand that its a big part of the admins job to keep the competition relatively even.

[R.Griffen]

I can't remember Black practically winning them a final, on the colour scale Brown comes before Black.
Plus he looks like Sideshow Bob :o

ahah I agree with that

[elephants]

What the protocol now? Do we go to a vote or?

[LF]

What the protocol now? Do we go to a vote or?

Not sure
But probably need to hear from the rest of the coaches first I guess

[T Dog]

Vancouver Give: S.Docherty + D.Rich + M.Golby + Nat 28
Hawaii Give: J.Lewis + Nat 33 + C.Moller + Nat 40


El Paso give:  P.Dangerfield; B. Crouch; C. Shenton
Vancouver give: P. Hanley; S. Sidebottom; B. Brown

After some concern over these two trades raised by other coaches we are posting them for comment by other coaches. If you are involved in these trades please post reasons as to why you want the players/picks in question and why you are trading your players/picks.

Hey Guys

Have gone into this trade period with my eyes open. Dangerfield was my 1st round pick whose sole purpose was to be trade bait. A bonus selection that gave flexibility in negotiation. Sidey and Brown where key targets as I seriously rate both and give me strong interest in the team each week. Hanley a gun. He hasn't lost DPP yet and is a great structural fit in the team redevelopment. Crouch is ok...but I simply don't rate everyone in the same manner as others. Using Crouch gives me a trade offer that I thought was fair and even..
There has been a lot of other trade work involved in resetting El Paso this year. I have kept a big picture view in all trade dealings and the final washout I am very pleased with. I have manged to bring in players I am simply interested in having - eg; Cloke, Sidey; Bugg; Zorko; Greene and Brown -  as well as a quite strong final line up. Check the final draft 1st 18 on the teams page. No trades were done in isolation. The DPP risks are just that but so is trying to pick a young gun who may fire next season or hoping someone will get a game. The worst that can happen?...too many mids but I am not on my own if that happens.
I hope this makes some sense.. ;D