Official Trades List 2014 - Trade Period 1

Started by Football Factory, September 30, 2014, 07:44:01 PM

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R.Griffen

Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin

Else to confirm if

elephants

Think we're a bit late there mate.

If not, confirm.
If so, bugger. We'll go next window.

picker_man

#287
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 10:48:10 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18

I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.

picker_man to confirm

Everyone seems to agree this trade definitely needs some work. Caddy and Clark for 2 post 20 picks doesn't seem close, Tippett for Rook 18 is close to fair but doesn't help even the trade up.

Tippet is a spud wouldn't take him with my last compensation pick let alone R18 lol but yeah all good man FF let us know before so we worked this out were I'll get another spud in Silvagni and give Nat 31 aswell


Nat 24 + Nat 26 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
For
J.Caddy + M.Clark + J.Tippet + A.Silvagni

Clark hasn't played in 2 yrs expected to ave 60 odd in his profile and Caddy will unfortunately more then like be mid only so surely that's all good now??

Atto to confirm :)

It's closer but I think FF is offline now so we'll have to talk about it tomorrow. I think Caddy was the main sticking point and the fact that there were no picks under 20 to compensate for him, so I can't promise this will pass either.

In response to that mate....Cause he's getting 24 & 26 for Caddy now which is better then one mid to late teen Nat pick, Clarke is worth 31 maybe and Tippet Silvagni would be lucky to even be picked up in the rookie draft so R18 is more then fair for them so that's my reasoning but yeah that's cool let us know  :)

R.Griffen

Quote from: elephants on November 16, 2014, 11:01:01 PM
Think we're a bit late there mate.

If not, confirm.
If so, bugger. We'll go next window.

At least we know what we want unlike what's happening above ;)

picker_man

Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 16, 2014, 11:01:01 PM
Think we're a bit late there mate.

If not, confirm.
If so, bugger. We'll go next window.

At least we know what we want unlike what's happening above ;)

??? And what's happening above? Someone whinged about our trade so we changed it lol

Grannyboy

#290
TRADE PERIOD ONE IS NOW CLOSED. I gave a little bit of leeway for coaches but only trades done before this post will be considered.
We now have about a two week wait until we start our National draft, it will commence in the days following the AFL Draft on the 27th of November.

R.Griffen


Memphistopheles

Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 11:02:54 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:52:52 PM
Quote from: picker_man on November 16, 2014, 10:48:10 PM
Quote from: Grannyboy on November 16, 2014, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Atto on November 16, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Dallas gives: Josh Caddy + Mitch Clark + Joel Tippett
Vancouver gives: Nat Pick 24 + Nat Pick 26 + Rookie Pick 18

I think this is a fair trade, helps my nat and rookie draft positions.

picker_man to confirm

Everyone seems to agree this trade definitely needs some work. Caddy and Clark for 2 post 20 picks doesn't seem close, Tippett for Rook 18 is close to fair but doesn't help even the trade up.

Tippet is a spud wouldn't take him with my last compensation pick let alone R18 lol but yeah all good man FF let us know before so we worked this out were I'll get another spud in Silvagni and give Nat 31 aswell


Nat 24 + Nat 26 + Nat 31 + Rookie 18
For
J.Caddy + M.Clark + J.Tippet + A.Silvagni

Clark hasn't played in 2 yrs expected to ave 60 odd in his profile and Caddy will unfortunately more then like be mid only so surely that's all good now??

Atto to confirm :)

It's closer but I think FF is offline now so we'll have to talk about it tomorrow. I think Caddy was the main sticking point and the fact that there were no picks under 20 to compensate for him, so I can't promise this will pass either.

In response to that mate....Cause he's getting 24 & 26 for Caddy now which is better then one mid to late teen Nat pick, Clarke is worth 31 maybe and Tippet Silvagni would be lucky to even be picked up in the rookie draft so R18 is more then fair for them so that's my reasoning but yeah that's cool let us know  :)

Sorry mate but I think this trade, even the revised version, is horrible and I don't like to see people ripped off which is what you're doing to Atto.

Josh Caddy has shown some very good signs already and is poised to break-out, probably as a mid/fwd, in the coming season. Especially when some of the other older Cats midfielders retire (SJ, Bartel, Kelly etc).

He was traded to the Cats for a mid first round pick plus Nat 55 in the AFL and has since developed (and possibly gained dpp next year) which makes him worth more than two second round nat picks.

That leaves Nat 31 for Mitch Clark and Joel Tippett. Not enough I don't think - still in Pickers favour.

The addition to this deal also doesn't improve it.

Silvagni is a spud however with McPharlin's body shaky he could get some good gametime this year and is not that much worse than rookie 18 so you haven't really improved the deal at all.

However, my main concern is that Atto is trading out four players and only getting picks in return. These kids (especially second round/later draft picks) are not going to be ready to play for at least 2-3 seasons at least whereas Caddy is just coming in to his prime, Clark could come good at Geelong and the other two are fringes of the Best 22 at their clubs already.

So that sets his already weak team back a long way and I don't really want to see any uncompetitive teams in the competition.

PS - for the record I'd have given up Nat 19 + 22 for Caddy if that's what you think he's worth Atto :P

kilbluff1985

i think it's fine tbh

memph i think you're over evaluating Clarke and Caddy to an extent Clarke is worth bugger all and is a big risk and also the rookie pick is actually pretty valuable due to the left over players from the recycled draft and Joel Tippett worth bugger all so he will get a decent player in the rookie draft

the trade isn't worth blocking imo it's nowhere near as bad as you seem to think just because you don't like the idea of him trading players for picks

SydneyRox

Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin

Else to confirm if

Wow.

R.Griffen

Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin

Else to confirm if

Wow.

As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that

elephants

Quote from: R.Griffen on November 17, 2014, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin

Else to confirm if

Wow.

As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that

Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo

picker_man

Yeah shower up Memph as if I'm ripping him off, he came to me saying no one could match my offer and another coach told him to take it cause it was a good offer and then I chuck in Nat 31 aswell ::)

There's Nuthin wrong with the trade as KB said your overrating Clark a guy who hasn't played in 2 yrs mate!! So ya welcome to put your opinion in on trades I'm actually glad you did unlike other coaches but don't sit there and say your being a saint trying to stop me from ripping ppl off or some shower when that clearly isn't what happend!!


And if you wanted to pay 19 & 22 or wateva it was for caddy then ya should got ya ass into gear and made it happen then mate no point tellin someone when the trade period is over lol

That is all :)

SydneyRox

Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2014, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 17, 2014, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin

Else to confirm if

Wow.

As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that

Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo

I am just surprised at how much I almost overpaid for buddy  :o


picker_man

Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 02:37:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2014, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 17, 2014, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on November 17, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
Quote from: R.Griffen on November 16, 2014, 10:59:07 PM
Hawaii? give Tom Mitchell
Calgary give Lance Franklin

Else to confirm if

Wow.

As I have now become awhere to go look at the recyled draft Mitchell went after Buddy while I had 2 picks before that

Bit irrelevant, I'm just an amazing drafter ;) Titch was a steal imo

I am just surprised at how much I almost overpaid for buddy  :o

Me too SR I nearly paid heaps more then Mitchell lol

But nicely done Ele if/when goes through would make you premiership favs over LF IMO mate, team looks deadly now  8)