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Started by Football Factory, September 29, 2014, 07:44:39 PM

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Pkbaldy

Quote from: LF on January 12, 2016, 01:19:21 PM
I'll add in this then maybe you need to pick like for like positions
Watson = mid
Carlisle = def or fwd etc

Yeah that seems fair. Looked at my team just then. I'm not effected at all in AXVIII DT or SC... So I won't be entered in this.

Football Factory

Quote from: Pkbaldy on January 12, 2016, 01:13:35 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on January 12, 2016, 01:09:21 PM
This isn't a normal situation though.

Still, don't expect a player to get season injuries during pre-season.

It's not like it's a 5 year ban.

I can see peoples teams getting stronger when they release who the top of players are. As I could see a fair few of them being ex AFL players like Stokes, Kelly and ect...

Injuries are part of the game always have been, WADA bans ..not.

Heppell for Kelly ... I think I know who I would want.

I think we should just work out who is missing that has a big impact on a team and then as a comp we come to an agreement as to who they should get from the top up players as a replacement.

R.Griffen

I think you have to pick from the position they come from. However just my opinion we need to have an order of the picks like Watson, Stanton etc are more important to teams than Colyer and Bellchambers

Football Factory

Yep so we identify who needs what, in a certain position, and then as comp we agree what top up player they should get as a replacement.


I don't think we should be replacing every player banned .. I have Pears, I was happy to see if he could get some games this year but he wouldn't have made my starting team. I don't want a replacement for him.

Football Factory

I also don't care about Angus Monspud

Football Factory

#470
Jobe Watson, Dyson Heppell, Michael Hurley, Cale Hooker, Brent Stanton, Michael Hibberd, David Myers, Tayte Pears, Ben Howlett, Tom Bellchambers, Heath Hocking, Travis Colyer, Angus Monspud, Stewart Crameri, Jake Milkshake, Patrick Ryder, Jake Carlisle

LF

Hang on a minute pretty sure admin has the final say in what happens and teams will be drafting their own players hence why there will be  a draft order based on team needs player quality etc
It is their team and nobody else's so why should other coaches be picking players for them.

Football Factory

Quote from: LF on January 12, 2016, 02:11:46 PM
Hang on a minute pretty sure admin has the final say in what happens and teams will be drafting their own players hence why there will be  a draft order based on team needs player quality etc
It is their team and nobody else's so why should other coaches be picking players for them.

FFS .. im just suggesting some things, we don't have to make a decision in 5 mins. Just do you want don't give shower anymore.

As I said I don't want compo picks for my players.

R.Griffen

Quote from: Football Factory on January 12, 2016, 02:14:15 PM
Quote from: LF on January 12, 2016, 02:11:46 PM
Hang on a minute pretty sure admin has the final say in what happens and teams will be drafting their own players hence why there will be  a draft order based on team needs player quality etc
It is their team and nobody else's so why should other coaches be picking players for them.

FFS .. im just suggesting some things, we don't have to make a decision in 5 mins. Just do you want don't give shower anymore.

As I said I don't want compo picks for my players.
What happens if injury strikes your team? Those 2 compo players you get could help...

Football Factory

Quote from: R.Griffen on January 12, 2016, 02:18:02 PM
Quote from: Football Factory on January 12, 2016, 02:14:15 PM
Quote from: LF on January 12, 2016, 02:11:46 PM
Hang on a minute pretty sure admin has the final say in what happens and teams will be drafting their own players hence why there will be  a draft order based on team needs player quality etc
It is their team and nobody else's so why should other coaches be picking players for them.

FFS .. im just suggesting some things, we don't have to make a decision in 5 mins. Just do you want don't give shower anymore.

As I said I don't want compo picks for my players.
What happens if injury strikes your team? Those 2 compo players you get could help...

I have plenty of players to cover, in these sorts of situations we should try to compromise. As I said I would even loan a player like a ruck if a team didn't have one.

Last post on this subject

LF

Could everyone who has players affected by this regardless of them being just depth or you don't want compo for them post them in the now unlocked delistings thread so we can get a proper overview of all teams thank you

Football Factory

Quote from: Pkbaldy on January 11, 2016, 08:52:00 PM
Hey fellas, i've been stewing on an idea for one of these formats for nearly 9 months now. And seeing as Americas DT is the most stable comp, i want to through out this suggestion and see if it grabs on. Personally I think it'll add a lot more depth and thought into the game, mainly around trade and draft season.

The quick pitch of the idea is that each team will have it's own 'Academy Student' (Potential 2016 draftee), with that Academy Student you're entitled to draft them when it comes to the National Draft, IF you're able to make up the points to secure that player. The initial pick for these students can work in a reverse ladder or lottery pick, that doesn't really matter at this point. But using the same Academy Points system that the AFL use we can work out the worth of the player when it comes to matching.



So say we go off the lottery, and the order for the first 4 picks are;

1. Bolivia - Darcy Tucker
2. Arizona - Callum Mills
3. Washington - Jacob Weitering
4. Calgary - Jacob Hopper

And say this was the draft positioning for the end of the year;

1. Bolivia - Selects Jacob Hopper
2. Washington- Selected Callum Mills
11. Arizona (+N23, +N35)
12. Calgary (+N24, +N36)

So once Bolivia select Jacob Hopper, Calgary then have 24 hours to match the offer or pass it. But with the 3 picks that Calgary have do not equal to 3000 points, so they have to forfeit up their academy student and Boliva get him. AND Bolivia also have the chance to pick up Darcy Tucker if they use the required points/picks to get him.   Now in the case of Washington's pick, Callum Mills is worth 2517 points, Arizona currently own pick 11, 23 and 35 which equals 2646. So if Arizona felt like they wanted to match the offer they use up those points to move into 2nd pick and claim their Academy Student with 129 points left over which gives them N62 or we call it N61.5 and everyone else slides down, or completely vanquish the rest of the points to stop confusion.

This is just a quick pitch, so I would love to hear peoples feed back. I think it'll add a bit more meaning to trading draft picks if you're higher on the ladder and you've selected a decent Academy Student. I am willing to post stuff on this years draftees (i've got my personal top 15 already on the 2016 U18s page), and if we decide to run this, i'm willing to help anyone who has questions on this years draftees. A good template for picking someone would be to look at the AIS players, 26/33 of them made it into the AFL system, some not as high as they were suggested to be. Eg. This time last year I had Darcy Tucker going at #1 (Drafted in the 30s or 40s) and Stephen Tahana in my top 30 (Didn't even get drafted), so it can be a swing or a miss. But as I said it adds a bit more depth to the game.


I suppose you think im going to add this to the comp next year aswell lol, just because I was admin once doesn't mean I cant have an opinion or give some suggestions on a subject.


Pkbaldy

So now you're not keen on the Academy idea?

Football Factory

Quote from: Pkbaldy on January 12, 2016, 02:58:00 PM
So now you're not keen on the Academy idea?

Sounds alright to me, but if I like it you can guarantee it wont get added  ;)

Pkbaldy

Quote from: Football Factory on January 12, 2016, 02:59:18 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on January 12, 2016, 02:58:00 PM
So now you're not keen on the Academy idea?

Sounds alright to me, but if I like it you can guarantee it wont get added  ;)

Haha... Well start hating it :P

Nah don't fret too much mate. Everything will get sorted out properly :P Sure your input is great. We all just need to relax more, Atto n LF will get this shower sorted out. Only 1 of 2 ways it can go. And the current idea seems good.