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Started by GM, September 20, 2014, 10:03:44 PM

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powersuperkents

Quote from: PowerBug on May 22, 2016, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on May 22, 2016, 09:05:58 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 22, 2016, 06:59:25 PM
Trengove was initially recruited as a ruck, so it's not that surprising.
I thought he was drafted as a KPP
He started fantasy formats as a D/R so I guess he was a bit of both growing up.
It seems like he knows the fundamentals of ruck work - his hit outs to advantages against Carlton shows that he knows what he is doing - and he has usually been a pinch hitter so when I think about it he must of had ruck experience as a junior.

He's been overlooked over the last season by many fans (he was a solid half-back in 2013 & 14 and played a huge part in the club's resurrection). In 2015 he was quite frustrating and before Lobbe got injured I really didn't like his defensive work (or contributions to the side) so it's good that he has had the chance to prove his value (he's really been one of our most important players this season since Lobbe went down). He's a genuine club man as well - it's good to see that he's no longer struggling, he seemed a bit awkward at half-back over the last year or so. Hopefully this stint in the ruck reinvigorates his defensive efforts next season and he can get back to his best.

Lobbe's the one I'm worried about at this point... When Ryder returns I don't know how Lobbe will contribute to the side (these situations are psychologically tough on the players as well)

PowerBug

I just hope Ryder and Monfries can come back and be as good as they were.
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powersuperkents

Jonas will probably be serving the same length as Steven May (i.e. 4-5 weeks - May had a week added for a poor record).

Do you guys think it's time to try Butcher in a shut down defensive role?

nas

Quote from: powersuperkents on May 23, 2016, 11:25:40 PM
Jonas will probably be serving the same length as Steven May (i.e. 4-5 weeks - May had a week added for a poor record).

Do you guys think it's time to try Butcher in a shut down defensive role?

Be worth a go, as long as not kicking out after a point scored.

powersuperkents

Quote from: nas on May 24, 2016, 08:45:29 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on May 23, 2016, 11:25:40 PM
Jonas will probably be serving the same length as Steven May (i.e. 4-5 weeks - May had a week added for a poor record).

Do you guys think it's time to try Butcher in a shut down defensive role?

Be worth a go, as long as not kicking out after a point scored.
that would be a nightmare hahahahaha

It will be a lot of work for Pittard, DBJ, & Broadbent because they will need to provide him with handball options (last season Butch didn't pass the ball via kicks when it was in play). I think Clurey's still injured so now is the time for Butch to prove himself (Ken will probably add another rebounding defender though)

iZander

Any avid port supporter know if Riley bonner is a chance to play this week? :D

Holz

Does anyone think Howard can last through the byes?

serisouly looking at him this week.

elephants

Does Howard coming in push Trengove back?

Very surprised it was Howard coming in and not Carlisle to cover Jonas.

I fear what Gawn could do to Howard.

PowerBug

They just want another body to help out in the ruck, something Carlile doesn't provide. Howard is playing purely because he can ruck, and that means against lesser rucks (like the next two weeks) he won't play unless of course Hinkley picks him off performance.

I think Trengove will still be the 1st ruck. I don't think Melbournw have the tallest fwd line? so Hombsch covers Hogan, then O'Shea will cover the next tall say Watts. If Hogan gets out of hand we might play Trengove back there.
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elephants

Quote from: PowerBug on May 27, 2016, 10:57:07 AM
They just want another body to help out in the ruck, something Carlile doesn't provide. Howard is playing purely because he can ruck, and that means against lesser rucks (like the next two weeks) he won't play unless of course Hinkley picks him off performance.

I think Trengove will still be the 1st ruck. I don't think Melbournw have the tallest fwd line? so Hombsch covers Hogan, then O'Shea will cover the next tall say Watts. If Hogan gets out of hand we might play Trengove back there.

I assume Paul Stewart is able to assist down back too if needed?

powersuperkents

Congrats DBJ!!

I admit I didn't rate him during the NAB because he was constantly turning the ball over (I'm ashamed to have said that he "wasn't AFL standard" after the NAB game against the Dees - I've said similar about Pittard in the past but I always forget just how much pressure the rebounding half-back role entails - really the most risky role on the ground), however he hasn't missed a beat since coming into the side during the H&A season. He's shaping up to be a quality rebounding defender and his offensive game is brilliant.

Best of luck to Pittard Jnr. during the Rising Star voting night and keep up the good work ;D (great to see that young talent is coming through in a team reaching the solidified stages of its lineup)

elephants

He has been real good! Thought he was gonna be out for some time when he went over on his ankle/knee against us a couple of weeks ago but good to see he bounced back!

Any Port supporters have an opinion on Hartlett and his position? Apparently spent time across halfback on the weekend. Was this because of Broadbent being out? A slight dip in form?

Noticed he seems to finish every season like an absolute house on fire so just wondering what he's been up to haha,

powersuperkents

Quote from: elephants on May 31, 2016, 02:53:30 PM
He has been real good! Thought he was gonna be out for some time when he went over on his ankle/knee against us a couple of weeks ago but good to see he bounced back!

Any Port supporters have an opinion on Hartlett and his position? Apparently spent time across halfback on the weekend. Was this because of Broadbent being out? A slight dip in form?

Noticed he seems to finish every season like an absolute house on fire so just wondering what he's been up to haha,
Last season he seemed to play more of a half-back role during the mid season (due to our poor contested winning skills in defence).

However, due to injuries he was one of our main contested mids for the last few games of the season to fill the Ollie Wines void (he seemed to be playing the ruck-rover role against the Gold Coast - his biggest fantasy score for the season).

He's had some stints in the guts this season but hasn't produced the same numbers - I think he'll play across half-back for the foreseeable future (he's constantly named up forward but I rarely see him there).

In all honesty, he's our third best contested mid imo (only R. Gray & Wines ahead of him). He jumped ahead of Boak in 2015 (it may just be fatigue or increased attention in regards to Boak's decline). Ebert is suppose to be decent in the contest, however he's one of our more athletic players so he plays the outside role - if there are any injuries he could be worth a look into (he still needs to work on reducing clangers though - ranked 2nd in the league for total flower ups and 3rd in the league for average flower ups per game - I suspect it's why he lost the Vice-captaincy - I highly rate him still).

It's tough to tell which Port player will fire... we are one of the worst teams in terms of contested possessions but our game plan has always relied on uncontested possessions/outside run which was fine until other clubs realised it. The only players guaranteed to be playing contested roles are Wines and Gray during his stints in the midfield.

Fantasy wise, I would say Gray is the only player on the list you could accurately back to fire each week. The rest are unpredictable - if you guess correctly you will gain a huge POD though (but I don't see the form lasting for more than 2-4 weeks - Wingard is probably the best to bet on having a long duration of good form imo with Gray being the consistent scorer).

Really a tough side to evaluate fantasy wise and definitely not similar to teams like the Eagles in which you know who is reliable - e.g. Pridda on the inside, Gaff on the outside, JJK for monster scores etc. That's what really bugs me, we constantly brag about fitness over the off-season but at the end of the day, certain players from other clubs perform consistently and rarely falter, however the only players who have consistently performed for the Power is Robbie Gray (and Pittard this season, surprisingly DBJ is another one and Wines you cannot blame because of his workload).

I think wait on Hammer because he hasn't been incredible this season but his worst has been horrible (watchlist him for now). Port's a tricky team to predict in fantasy football. If I had to select three players from the side for fantasy football my preferences would be Gray, Wingard, then Wines (I would need more time to decide on Hartlett if it wasn't a legacy league).

PowerBug

Old article, but:
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/2016-04-05/robbies-weird-pregame-ritual

QuoteAt exactly three hours and 15 mintues before the first bounce, Gray has two banana and honey sandwiches on wholemeal bread, accompanied by half a muffin.

It's a ritual he's kept since 2013.

By chance, he'd had the meal before a game at the end of the season and ended up having a great game - and he's maintained the habit ever since.

Haha the bloke is crazy :P I wonder whether he starts preparing the food at that time or he starts eating it at that time?

Meanwhile Polec has to eat gnocchi the night before the game, that's fair gnocchi is nice and it's not like he has a specific time set for it. And Trengove has to be the last one out onto the ground, fair enough.

I also notice that Lobbe goes to the centre of the ground during the warmup. Reason? He watches the umpire bounce the ball to see which way it's bouncing. What a crazy man :P (Obviously it doesn't help him either ;D)
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Ziplock

out of all those, Lobbe's probably makes the most sense :P If an umpire's technique is slightly off it could favour a direction :P