Port Adelaide 2015 / 2016 Discussion

[powersuperkents]

Can add Lobbe to the injury list, although I guess he was not best 22 at the time of the injury anyway.

Now Dougal Howard plays, and we really need to look at how the Doggies worked themselves out last year when they played without Minson. Only problem is we don't play at Etihad every week like they do.


Just another question, if Howard misses a week, what happens?

Frampton?

Dixon/Westhoff/Trengove

I assume we will rotate Howard/Dixon/Westhoff & Trengove throughout the ruck every game (it may improve the side - the Bulldogs are the best example of a high rotation side).

My concern is... that we didn't win the hit-outs to begin with... but the midfield really needs to stand up now and contest. The difference when we contested for the ball compared to when our mids didn't contest was highly noticeable against Richmond (primarily, when we didn't contest, they had all the momentum - when we did we saw glimpses of our 2013 side)

Also, I don't think I've seen Broadbent play like that since 2014...

Broadbent, Krakouer, Pittard, & DBJ were sensational against Richmond. I'm thinking that maybe Hombsch should be the only tall defender in our lineup (he was fantastic as well - as always)

[elephants]

Just another question, if Howard misses a week, what happens?

Surely just Hoff and Dixon go it together haha.



I've just picked up Polec from my Free Agency Pool in my draft league. He smashes up shower teams and (105 on Essendon and 95 on Richmond so far this year) and Port play Brisbane (home) and Carlton (away) in their next two. I'm not drunk or high I swear.

[PowerBug]

Can add Lobbe to the injury list, although I guess he was not best 22 at the time of the injury anyway.

Now Dougal Howard plays, and we really need to look at how the Doggies worked themselves out last year when they played without Minson. Only problem is we don't play at Etihad every week like they do.


Just another question, if Howard misses a week, what happens?

Frampton?

Also, I don't think I've seen Broadbent play like that since 2014...

Broadbent, Krakouer, Pittard, & DBJ were sensational against Richmond. I'm thinking that maybe Hombsch should be the only tall defender in our lineup (he was fantastic as well - as always)

He's playing more midfield time I'm noticing. Or at the very least lining up at around the ground stoppages either at the pack or sitting just behind.

Horses for courses. Against Brisbane we can probably get away with only Hombsch, but against North (Petrie, Waite, Brown) I wouldn't want to go in like that at all. We gotta adopt a team defence game style like West Coast and the Doggies did last year. Or just do what the Eagles did the best last year, win it out of the midfield. The defence may be undersized, but if they can't get the ball forward, they won't score! ;)

[elephants]

Impey kicked three I noticed, he playing more forward now that DBJ has come in?

[powersuperkents]

Complete and utter bullflower...

Is it too much to ask for an impartial umpire when you play Carlton in Melbourne... Flowering hell, the same ridiculous calls as last season

Also, Hinkley... please fire Spud O'Shea and Karl Amon... they are both showerhouse players and continue to pull the team down (they aren't depth... they are flowering useless).

The club should really ask for a review of some of those decisions - flowering 26 free kicks to 11.....

[JBs-Hawks]

Umpires were fine get over it!

[powersuperkents]

Umpires were fine get over it!

That's rich coming from a Hawk's supporter  :P

[PowerBug]

The club should really ask for a review of some of those decisions - flowering 26 free kicks to 11.....

Worked for the Crows they got the umpiring last week ;)


Not blaming the umpires I don't think they go out to favour a team on purpose that is ridiculous, they only call it as they see it.

Any half decent team wouldn't have lost that game from the position we were in.

[powersuperkents]

The club should really ask for a review of some of those decisions - flowering 26 free kicks to 11.....

Worked for the Crows they got the umpiring last week ;)


Not blaming the umpires I don't think they go out to favour a team on purpose that is ridiculous, they only call it as they see it.

Any half decent team wouldn't have lost that game from the position we were in.

We've lost a lot of players and the depth is really shower....

Young has been fantastic and Krakouer & DBJ have been worthy of selection - even Stewart isn't the player that used to give me headaches

Toumpas is better than Amon though - he makes decent decisions and Amon isn't really a player I want in the lineup

O'Shea... is shower... plain and simple  >:( (they should of delisted him and Butcher last off-season along with Moore).

Westhoff has really been disappointing... Why didn't he take the shot, rather than kick to the top of the square, that one poor decision (by a guy who looks like he is suffering a complete breakdown) really lost the match... He used to be a really good set shot for goal, however this season he's been too scared to even shoot... (I still remember against the Tigers were he opted to handball rather than shoot from right in front - he needs to play as a loose defender because he's not doing his job up forward).

I would still attribute the loss to some of the umpire's calls though - Dixon even marked it in the closing minutes and a player punched it out of his hands (he had completely controlled it though) and the ref continued play. With the bigger clubs that would be talked about for the following week as a topic of debate... however, for us it won't even get a flowering mention (just like that bullshower last time we played them in Melbourne when Colquhoun marked it from 35 metres out and the ref called 'touch', there was literally nothing to indicate it was touched and it didn't receive a mention again - do that against Collingwood and the media would talk about it for days afterwards...)

[elephants]

Any half decent team wouldn't have lost that game from the position we were in.

This is the key point from the weekend I think. Honestly too, I'd be telling Hoff to have a shot from where he did too. Worst case scenario it goes through for a point and you've got a 5 point lead and a chance to implement the full forward press. As it is though he popped it to the top of the square and Carlton rebound to kick the winner.

The Trengove ruck situation, how do Power fans see that? Is he doing enough?

[powersuperkents]

Any half decent team wouldn't have lost that game from the position we were in.

This is the key point from the weekend I think. Honestly too, I'd be telling Hoff to have a shot from where he did too. Worst case scenario it goes through for a point and you've got a 5 point lead and a chance to implement the full forward press. As it is though he popped it to the top of the square and Carlton rebound to kick the winner.

The Trengove ruck situation, how do Power fans see that? Is he doing enough?

I think Trengove is honestly the best ruck we have, barring Ryder.

Lobbe was complete shower (I think he was one of the players that was performing well in 2013-14 because of Hinkley's emotional motivation) and Dougal Howard (our second best after Trengove) is still too young.

I personally like what Trengove has done (esp. considering that he is playing out of position). He roves the oppositions hitouts well which is important because

1) we don't have a ruck; &
2) the midfielders (excluding Wines) don't seem to be doing it (which is their flowering job - Gray has already crashed, I'm worried that carrying the team's contested game will take its toll on Wines later in the season - Trengove removes some of the workload which is really important).

They can drop Westhoff for all I care at the moment. He reads the play well and is a fantastic contested mark (rarely loses at the contest) but he seems unbalanced when he's around goals.

I would have to say the individual players that cost us the game were;

1) O'Shea (he had multiple options in the 50, time and space, why the flower did he handball back to a pressured Polec - FIRE THE SPUD!!!);

2) Karl Amon (was he even paying attention when he got himself tackled in the back 50, directly in front of the goals - OMIT HIM FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON! The only promising thing I've seen from this spud is when he kicked 3 goals against the GCS last year... it's not like that even an achievement in the modern game... it's what's expected of forward, esp. small forward - also why was he in the midfield...); &

3) Westhoff (the reluctance to take a set shot that ultimately resulted in the winning goal... obviously it's psychological at this point because refusing to take set shots, even from point blank range, has been a recurring theme of his season so far - every time he's refused to take a set shot, the team has suffered - Throw him on the wing or as a loose man in defence, he shouldn't be a forward at this point)

But regarding Trengove, he is a set up from Lobbe (definitely the club's 2nd best ruck, after Ryder, at this point)

[elephants]

Great insight thanks mate!

[Ziplock]

Trengove was initially recruited as a ruck, so it's not that surprising.

[powersuperkents]

Trengove was initially recruited as a ruck, so it's not that surprising.

I thought he was drafted as a KPP

[PowerBug]

Trengove was initially recruited as a ruck, so it's not that surprising.

I thought he was drafted as a KPP

He started fantasy formats as a D/R so I guess he was a bit of both growing up.