Port Adelaide 2015 / 2016 Discussion

[powersuperkents]

Looks like Byrne-Jones will get games over Impey as well, he was good today.


Jasper Pittard should be leading our B&F at this stage, been superb.

DBJ has been fantastic

I agree, Pittard ha easily been our best player this season - esp. considering his lack of support (e.g. Shiel's goal in which not one player was willing to help Pittard by shepherding off GWS' players). Really think Pittard is taking some big steps in his development this season (he's basically set up every goal this year - along with Robbie)

Real lack of depth in the midfield - the Giants focused on Gray and shut him down - usually another mid is suppose to step up in those situations, no one did...

[nas]

Gray, Dixon, Hartlett escape suspensions.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/teams/port-adelaide/match-review-panel-says-power-stars-charlie-dixon-robbie-gray-and-hamish-hartlett-clear-to-play-cats/news-story/ec7e7e33efbe0dcf7633007f1a6eb0dc

[PowerBug]

I'm reading those changes correctly aren't I? Geez it better work... ::)

The players better get drilled into them how Geelong don't rate us so they decide to "manage" one of their key forwards. No one rests a player of that quality against good opposition, so we suck.

Now go out there and prove them wrong!

Keen for Saturday night, up the Power :)

[PowerBug]

How many players should we drop?

Westhoff for Butcher I would do. At least one will provide a contest
Gray and Jonas will get suspended, so Ah Chee gets back in (should never have been dropped) and Clurey gets a chance. I'd do Jonas or at the veyr least O'Shea for Clurey...
What is Paul Stewarts role? Anyone know?


That's all I'm tired that was frustrating.

[Atto]

You know what frustrated me more than anything?

Karl Amon's kick backwards that led to a Geelong goal.

WHAT THE LEGIT FLOWER YOU SPUD!?!

If he can get drafted and do that shower then I can also get drafted lmao.

[R.Griffen]

How many players should we drop?

Westhoff for Butcher I would do. At least one will provide a contest
Gray and Jonas will get suspended, so Ah Chee gets back in (should never have been dropped) and Clurey gets a chance. I'd do Jonas or at the veyr least O'Shea for Clurey...
What is Paul Stewarts role? Anyone know?


That's all I'm tired that was frustrating.

O'Shea actually looked like he would struggle playing under 18's normally when power is down he stands up. Colquhoun? Should be playing if he is available. One thing I noticed was ball use after quarter time. Not turnovers but just kicks to 50-50's and unless they were going to stop Selwood and Danger winning clearances that tactic is awful.

Young in the last 2 weeks seems to be the only forward making contest a majority of the time. I feel he should be in the middle or atleast behind the ball instead

If Jonas doesn't get suspended no way he plays next weekend. Looked like he forgot how to read the ball and set up behind the play as he always looked out of position

[nas]

Dougie needs to be included IMO. Forward & Ruck back up.

[powersuperkents]

It's not the players' fault...

If the game proved anything it's the coaches and the limits of man's athleticism

We dominated the first quarter... but the flowering style of play is unsustainable...

YES we had emotion to motivate us and an innovative game plan to bamboozle opponents in 2013 & 2014.

But emotion isn't sustainable and our game plan is no longer innovative.

The style was play could make us the best first quarter team... however, it WILL make us the worst 2nd, 3rd, & 4th quarter team...

Couldn't anyone else see that our players were exhausted by half time... that's why they started making mistakes... they aren't A) superheros or B) on performance enhancing drugs, they cannot be expected to keep up such a high pressure game for so long.

The Hawks are good because they retain possession and kick it around (they only really expend energy when they need it). The Bulldogs rotate players and switch the ball (rather than stubbornly try and force their way through the middle of the field) so they can maintain high pace football without players tiring out. The Crows simplify their counter attacking game plan and have very stationary forward and defenders (that way their interchange cap is used on the midfield and half-back movers).

There is nothing special about the way he play... in fact it is now the worst game plan in the comp.

The worst part is that our more talented players are starting to give up (e.g. Gray, Wingard, Westhoff) because they are smart enough to know that there is no point wasting time if the team will inevitably lose

The players aren't the problem... it's Hinkley, and I think it's time receive the ultimatum to either change the game plan or leave the club...

Bringing back Ah chee & Polec will result in nothing but Power fans requesting they be dropped next week...

Last night conclusively proved it's not the players fault... it is impossible to play that intense a style of footy for one quarter (our players athleticism is incredible to pull that off alone), let alone four...

I'm really doubting him as a coach, anyone with a brain can see that it doesn't work anymore, and it's not going to work again... (if he cannot develop a new gameplan, the best thing he could do for the club is resign at a time where we can attract a decent coach to replace him).

[powersuperkents]

I appreciate everything he's done for the club... but he's seriously trying to deflect his own faults upon the players

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-04-24/pressure-on-at-port

He's starting to resemble the humble peasant turned mad tyrant... that style of football would be sustainable... if he had the Avengers rather than 22 AFL players...

[powersuperkents]

Lets just break down the slump in energy

5 goals in the first quarter - and dominated all stats

3 goals for the rest of the game and the stats were overturned by half time...

Hinkley can blame the players all he wants... the fact is that he has exhausted them by quarter time and this has been occurring since late 2015...

Surprisingly against the Hawks we played to accommodate them and retained possession and play rather low intensity football... we won that game convincingly...

In summary, CHANGE THE FLOWERING GAMEPLAN because Hinkley's excuses are going to run out...

[TomK]

The worst part is that our more talented players are starting to give up (e.g. Gray, Wingard, Westhoff) because they are smart enough to know that there is no point wasting time if the team will inevitably lose

The players aren't the problem... it's Hinkley, and I think it's time receive the ultimatum to either change the game plan or leave the club...

I don't think it is just Ken, it's an attitude problem if the players are giving up because they know they are going to lose.

I'm not trolling but I think it's time for Ken to stop using the 'We will never give up' company line, because it's obvious the players did and then in the presser, he tried spinning the meaning away from never giving up on gameday to never giving up on the club.

Depth is a massive issue as well right now, you sold all of your high end draft picks and talent on Dixon and Ryder and it has just backfired, even with a full squad in '15 with Ryder/Monfries, you failed to make finals and with Dixon, you look like a rabble and you have too many passengers.

[PowerBug]

Well, lots to say as usual, so let's break it down...

First thing, let me give you some names. Carlile, Trengove, R.Gray, White, Ryder, Schulz, Wingard, Monfries. Now let me give you another 8 names: Gibson, Stratton, S.Mitchell, I.Smith, McEvoy, Roughead, Rioli, Breust. That is a like for like (roughly) of the Port players missing but in Hawthorn's side. Take out those 8 Hawks players where would they be?! Not playing like back to back to back premiers that's for sure! Now there's obviously lots more to it than just naming names and making excuses for poor form, but we can't deny that it makes a difference!!

The defenders, THEY DEFENDED!! Unbelievable. I saw players do well one on one and I was very impressed by the amount of spoils we had (over 50 I believe). Hombsch and Jonas were really undersized on Riewoldt and Vickery, but we almost always had a 3rd player back to spoil the contest. A good team defensive effort. And so glad Krakouer came straight back in. A defender that puts defending first! We had 99 tackles, incredible, there was effort there. We were running back to our defensive 50, there was pressure on every Richmond player.

Westhoff after a terrible start was taking marks so easily, as was Dixon. No Rance hurt them and having the worst player of all time Troy Chaplin in that backline as their best key helps us big time. We can't really take too much until we see them again over the next few weeks. The West Coast defence in 3 weeks especially, as their defence is a very good one.

Overall though, we are 3-3. Yeah there's holes, yeah it may have been a really bad Richmond, but it's still 3-3 and with a good chance to take it to 5-3 over the next 2 weeks. Get some of those names back I reckon it'll only help the team out more :)

Up the Power! :D

[powersuperkents]

They were fantastic - not an exceptional performance but they got back to the basics (the main thing I noticed is that they didn't confuse 'high risk football' with plain stupidity).

They switched and opted for the centre corridor and Polly, Boak, Wines, & Hartlett lead the midfield (what we have been looking for all season).

The game style reminded me of how we used to play in 2013. Obviously we have taken some steps back since 2014 (maybe it's injuries, maybe it's that we play better as undermanned underdogs) but it's good to see that the team went back to the drawing board and refined the playing style (the only time it has been executed this season).

I'm thinking that we don't actually want a big defender down back (our smaller defenders are capable of running all day if they aren't worn out cleaning up the other players messes - besides DBJ & Pittard who will never stop running), Hombsch seems capable of covering the tall forwards and the players seemed to favour a zone defence this game (which worked well).

I was really pleased with that performance (Lobbe can play out the season in the SANFL for all I care - Howard, Westhoff, & Dixon rotating through the ruck/forward/mid roles were fantastic - Dixon is so mobile for his size).

Impey was solid up forward as well - Young is obviously our most improved player this season, Pittard still the B&F candidate imo

Very impressed with Polly though - he really stood up to the challenge and was the prime mover (Hartlett is probably best utilised in the midfield - R. Gray should remain at half-forward when he returns).

[PowerBug]

Can add Lobbe to the injury list, although I guess he was not best 22 at the time of the injury anyway.

Now Dougal Howard plays, and we really need to look at how the Doggies worked themselves out last year when they played without Minson. Only problem is we don't play at Etihad every week like they do.


Just another question, if Howard misses a week, what happens?

[nas]

Can add Lobbe to the injury list, although I guess he was not best 22 at the time of the injury anyway.

Now Dougal Howard plays, and we really need to look at how the Doggies worked themselves out last year when they played without Minson. Only problem is we don't play at Etihad every week like they do.


Just another question, if Howard misses a week, what happens?

Frampton?