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Big Mac

What does your best 22 look like now?

PowerBug

#286
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 20, 2015, 07:54:21 PM
What does your best 22 look like now?

B: Hombsch, Carlile, Impey
HB: Pittard, Trengove, Broadbent
C: Polec, Boak, Hartlett
HF: S.Gray, Westhoff, M.White
F: Wingard, Dixon, Neade
R: Ryder, Wines, R.Gray
INT: Jonas, Lobbe, Ah Chee, Amon

Something like that maybe? Schulz not named there, probably missing someone really good my footy brain has switched off for the year lol.

Edit: Monfries, Cam O'Shea not there. The latter is a potato anyway.
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quinny88

Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2015, 08:01:31 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 20, 2015, 07:54:21 PM
What does your best 22 look like now?

B: Hombsch, Carlile, Impey
HB: Pittard, Trengove, Broadbent
C: Polec, Boak, Hartlett
HF: S.Gray, Westhoff, M.White
F: Wingard, Dixon, Neade
R: Ryder, Wines, R.Gray
INT: Jonas, Lobbe, Ah Chee, Amon

Something like that maybe? Schulz not named there, probably missing someone really good my footy brain has switched off for the year lol.

Edit: Monfries, Cam O'Shea not there. The latter is a potato anyway.

Schultz not in the best 22?  :o

PowerBug

Quote from: quinny88 on October 20, 2015, 08:10:09 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 20, 2015, 08:01:31 PM
Quote from: Big  Mac on October 20, 2015, 07:54:21 PM
What does your best 22 look like now?

B: Hombsch, Carlile, Impey
HB: Pittard, Trengove, Broadbent
C: Polec, Boak, Hartlett
HF: S.Gray, Westhoff, M.White
F: Wingard, Dixon, Neade
R: Ryder, Wines, R.Gray
INT: Jonas, Lobbe, Ah Chee, Amon

Something like that maybe? Schulz not named there, probably missing someone really good my footy brain has switched off for the year lol.

Edit: Monfries, Cam O'Shea not there. The latter is a potato anyway.

Schultz not in the best 22?  :o
Probably could have another tall in there, but Westhoff is better and Dixon will play the 5 games that he is fit for. One problem Port had this year is that we brought in Ryder, and didn't drop a tall. And our run was terrible because of it. So this is a smaller side. Also I doubt Schulz will play 20 games next year even if fit for the entire time.
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ADEZ

#289
Personally hoping we go with a line-up like this:

FB:    T. Jonas, A. Carlile, J. Trengove
HB:    M. Broadbent, J. Hombsch, J. Pittard
C:      H. Hartlett, O.Wines, J. Polec
HF:    M. White, J. Westhoff, R. Gray
FF:    C. Wingard, C. Dixon, J. Schulz
R:      P. Ryder, T. Boak, B. Ebert
INT:  S. Gray, B. Ah Chee, J. Impey, A. Monfries
EMG: M. Lobbe, N. Krakouer, J. Neade

I Know Ken wants to have the ruck tandem but hoping he goes with the 1, only 2 when necessary, Westy and particularly Trengove are capable backs ups.
Never want to see S. Gray stuck in the forward line again ::)
I have always been of the opinion that Schulz is an average key forward but elite second/third, will thrive playing second fiddle to Charlie, I'm calling a 50+ goal year for Schulz pending injury.
If Krak can build his endurance he's a lock in the 22 IMO
Personally, I could look at that team all day!

PowerBug

HAHAHAHA I forgot Ebert omg.

Pay no attention to my team, what ADEZ has is much better
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Ricochet

Quote from: PowerBug on October 21, 2015, 09:59:10 AM
HAHAHAHA I forgot Ebert omg.

Pay no attention to my team, what ADEZ has is much better
hahaha gold PB

Ringo

Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:07:00 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 21, 2015, 09:59:10 AM
HAHAHAHA I forgot Ebert omg.

Pay no attention to my team, what ADEZ has is much better
hahaha gold PB
Easily done PB - I had initially left Allen Christensen out of my Brisbane 22 for next year.

Big Mac

Quote from: Ricochet on October 21, 2015, 11:07:00 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on October 21, 2015, 09:59:10 AM
HAHAHAHA I forgot Ebert omg.

Pay no attention to my team, what ADEZ has is much better
hahaha gold PB

Lol pb  :P

PowerBug

In my defence I did mention that I probably missed a really good player.
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powersuperkents

I thought it would be more like this:

FB:    T. Jonas, A. Carlisle, J. Hombsch
HB:    M. Broadbent, J. Trengove, J. Pittard
C:      B. Ebert, O.Wines, J. Polec
HF:    M. White, J. Westhoff, R. Gray
FF:    C. Wingard, C. Dixon, J. Schulz
R:      P. Ryder, T. Boak, H. Hartlett
INT:  S. Gray, B. Ah Chee, J. Impey, A. Monfries
EMG: M. Lobbe, N. Krakouer, J. Neade

Hombsch seems to always be named in the back pocket, but as ADEZ has posted I'm hoping he receives a central role (has our best defender by a significant margin last season and incredible in 2014 - easily my favourite defender, esp. after Jonas became a pumpkin this season).

Hinkley likes to put the talls at CHB & CHF so I would expect Trengove to retain his starting point with the dangerous duo providing run (Pittard & Broadbent can either destroy the opposition or destroy us - Broadbent the safer kick but when in form Pittard can be the most damaging player in our counter-attacking set up - disappointed me for a majority of 2015 though and they were easily our most out of form players this season). 

Thought Robbie Gray was strong in centre midfield but only came to the realisation that he only started in that position because Wines was injured, so the half-forward line it is for him.

Wines, Ebert, Hartlett, & Gray can all rotate so their starting positions are not too important. Ebert is the one I'm unsure of, alright in the contest but I would prefer the luxury of playing him on the wing. The problem... he makes a significant amount of clangers in contrast to his teammates (he seems more likely to make an error while in an uncontested position then a contested one). I liked Hartlett in the follower position in our second game against the Swans & in the Gold Coast match so I'm hoping he can find some consistency and play in rover (however, Ebert, Gray, & Wines all capable of playing the role - plus Wines can rotate with Boak in ruck-rover).

I like the rest of the line-up and hopefully Toumpas regains form and pushes for a starting position by round 5-8. It seems like we have too much too choose from now and my major concern is Lobbe as an emergency. He's a starting player who we cannot effectively start unless Ryder is out. He's the vice-captain and I could see him requesting a trade if he doesn't receive sufficient playing opportunities (of course he's signed until 2019 so we will have ALL THE LEVERAGE if that eventuates).

Ryder is durable, unlike Nic Nat, so a dual-ruck partnership will not work between Lobbe & Ryder. However, it's reported that Dixon will sometime be expected to play alongside Ryder up forward. I think this implies that Lobbe will be in our regular line-up but most likely on the interchange (then I'm worried about his TOG - it needs to be over 65-75% and I don't see that happening when Ryder is easily the better ruck).

Prediction;
Premiers or at least runners up in a close contest which is complained about for the next 2-3 months with people saying; "we deserved to win" :P 

Rusty00

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:28:05 PM
I thought it would be more like this:

FB:    T. Jonas, A. Carlisle, J. Hombsch
HB:    M. Broadbent, J. Trengove, J. Pittard
C:      B. Ebert, O.Wines, J. Polec
HF:    M. White, J. Westhoff, R. Gray
FF:    C. Wingard, C. Dixon, J. Schulz
R:      P. Ryder, T. Boak, H. Hartlett
INT:  S. Gray, B. Ah Chee, J. Impey, A. Monfries
EMG: M. Lobbe, N. Krakouer, J. Neade

Hombsch seems to always be named in the back pocket, but as ADEZ has posted I'm hoping he receives a central role (has our best defender by a significant margin last season and incredible in 2014 - easily my favourite defender, esp. after Jonas became a pumpkin this season).

Hinkley likes to put the talls at CHB & CHF so I would expect Trengove to retain his starting point with the dangerous duo providing run (Pittard & Broadbent can either destroy the opposition or destroy us - Broadbent the safer kick but when in form Pittard can be the most damaging player in our counter-attacking set up - disappointed me for a majority of 2015 though and they were easily our most out of form players this season). 

Thought Robbie Gray was strong in centre midfield but only came to the realisation that he only started in that position because Wines was injured, so the half-forward line it is for him.

Wines, Ebert, Hartlett, & Gray can all rotate so their starting positions are not too important. Ebert is the one I'm unsure of, alright in the contest but I would prefer the luxury of playing him on the wing. The problem... he makes a significant amount of clangers in contrast to his teammates (he seems more likely to make an error while in an uncontested position then a contested one). I liked Hartlett in the follower position in our second game against the Swans & in the Gold Coast match so I'm hoping he can find some consistency and play in rover (however, Ebert, Gray, & Wines all capable of playing the role - plus Wines can rotate with Boak in ruck-rover).

I like the rest of the line-up and hopefully Toumpas regains form and pushes for a starting position by round 5-8. It seems like we have too much too choose from now and my major concern is Lobbe as an emergency. He's a starting player who we cannot effectively start unless Ryder is out. He's the vice-captain and I could see him requesting a trade if he doesn't receive sufficient playing opportunities (of course he's signed until 2019 so we will have ALL THE LEVERAGE if that eventuates).

Ryder is durable, unlike Nic Nat, so a dual-ruck partnership will not work between Lobbe & Ryder. However, it's reported that Dixon will sometime be expected to play alongside Ryder up forward. I think this implies that Lobbe will be in our regular line-up but most likely on the interchange (then I'm worried about his TOG - it needs to be over 65-75% and I don't see that happening when Ryder is easily the better ruck).

Prediction;
Premiers or at least runners up in a close contest which is complained about for the next 2-3 months with people saying; "we deserved to win" :P
Gray is now one of the best centre clearance players in the comp. He'll be in at the majority of centre bounces regardless of Wines' availability I would've thought.

powersuperkents

Quote from: Rusty00 on October 21, 2015, 01:32:48 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on October 21, 2015, 01:28:05 PM
I thought it would be more like this:

FB:    T. Jonas, A. Carlisle, J. Hombsch
HB:    M. Broadbent, J. Trengove, J. Pittard
C:      B. Ebert, O.Wines, J. Polec
HF:    M. White, J. Westhoff, R. Gray
FF:    C. Wingard, C. Dixon, J. Schulz
R:      P. Ryder, T. Boak, H. Hartlett
INT:  S. Gray, B. Ah Chee, J. Impey, A. Monfries
EMG: M. Lobbe, N. Krakouer, J. Neade

Hombsch seems to always be named in the back pocket, but as ADEZ has posted I'm hoping he receives a central role (has our best defender by a significant margin last season and incredible in 2014 - easily my favourite defender, esp. after Jonas became a pumpkin this season).

Hinkley likes to put the talls at CHB & CHF so I would expect Trengove to retain his starting point with the dangerous duo providing run (Pittard & Broadbent can either destroy the opposition or destroy us - Broadbent the safer kick but when in form Pittard can be the most damaging player in our counter-attacking set up - disappointed me for a majority of 2015 though and they were easily our most out of form players this season). 

Thought Robbie Gray was strong in centre midfield but only came to the realisation that he only started in that position because Wines was injured, so the half-forward line it is for him.

Wines, Ebert, Hartlett, & Gray can all rotate so their starting positions are not too important. Ebert is the one I'm unsure of, alright in the contest but I would prefer the luxury of playing him on the wing. The problem... he makes a significant amount of clangers in contrast to his teammates (he seems more likely to make an error while in an uncontested position then a contested one). I liked Hartlett in the follower position in our second game against the Swans & in the Gold Coast match so I'm hoping he can find some consistency and play in rover (however, Ebert, Gray, & Wines all capable of playing the role - plus Wines can rotate with Boak in ruck-rover).

I like the rest of the line-up and hopefully Toumpas regains form and pushes for a starting position by round 5-8. It seems like we have too much too choose from now and my major concern is Lobbe as an emergency. He's a starting player who we cannot effectively start unless Ryder is out. He's the vice-captain and I could see him requesting a trade if he doesn't receive sufficient playing opportunities (of course he's signed until 2019 so we will have ALL THE LEVERAGE if that eventuates).

Ryder is durable, unlike Nic Nat, so a dual-ruck partnership will not work between Lobbe & Ryder. However, it's reported that Dixon will sometime be expected to play alongside Ryder up forward. I think this implies that Lobbe will be in our regular line-up but most likely on the interchange (then I'm worried about his TOG - it needs to be over 65-75% and I don't see that happening when Ryder is easily the better ruck).

Prediction;
Premiers or at least runners up in a close contest which is complained about for the next 2-3 months with people saying; "we deserved to win" :P
Gray is now one of the best centre clearance players in the comp. He'll be in at the majority of centre bounces regardless of Wines' availability I would've thought.
Yeah I agree, the issue is that Gray is versatile, while the other midfielders are not.

I would prefer to see Gray in centre midfield - but I'd still rather have both Wines & Gray playing at the same time. Gray will still obviously rotate (even with a fit team he still spent a significant amount of time at the centre bounce).

Atto

Centre midfield? This ain't soccer bro lol

powersuperkents

Quote from: Atto on October 21, 2015, 02:20:54 PM
Centre midfield? This ain't soccer bro lol
haha what else are you suppose to call the midfielder between the two wingers (whose zone is the centre of the ground)  :) (I don't like the plain term 'centre')