Port Adelaide 2015 / 2016 Discussion

[fanTCfool]

6 Years! It sounds like he signed for such a lengthy time to avoid the media spotlight for when his contract nears its end.
Obviously, that is not the case, but why did he feel the need to sign for so long? I know he loves the club and all, but what could his thinking be? I am genuinely intrigued.

[powersuperkents]

6 Years! It sounds like he signed for such a lengthy time to avoid the media spotlight for when his contract nears its end.
Obviously, that is not the case, but why did he feel the need to sign for so long? I know he loves the club and all, but what could his thinking be? I am genuinely intrigued.

Here's the article with his reasons mentioned. Port have seemed to have strong success with player retention over our short AFL history. The biggest departures have been Shaun Burgoyne (because Mark Williams overlooked him as captain and instead named Cassisi) and Pearce/Chaplin (during the dark spud Primus years). The manner in which Ben Jacobs departed showed how the club had sank, however Hinkley has rebuilt the culture and I don't see players leaving now that success is so close (they can win it, it's just a question of whether the players will do what's necessary) 

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-07/hartlett-rejects-victorian-overtures-to-sign-longterm-deal-with-port

2015 was my most disappointing season as a Port supporter - at least we were a joke in 2011 & 2012. But I think two Westhoffs will be what gets the team into a top 4 position next year  :P

[Rusty00]

6 Years! It sounds like he signed for such a lengthy time to avoid the media spotlight for when his contract nears its end.
Obviously, that is not the case, but why did he feel the need to sign for so long? I know he loves the club and all, but what could his thinking be? I am genuinely intrigued.

I haven't read that linked article but I'm guessing the club pushed for a longer contract to enable them to back end his contract more given they allegedly are under salary cap stress. If he's happy with the club, which he clearly is then it might be the only way he could get the money he is worth.

[powersuperkents]

6 Years! It sounds like he signed for such a lengthy time to avoid the media spotlight for when his contract nears its end.
Obviously, that is not the case, but why did he feel the need to sign for so long? I know he loves the club and all, but what could his thinking be? I am genuinely intrigued.

I haven't read that linked article but I'm guessing the club pushed for a longer contract to enable them to back end his contract more given they allegedly are under salary cap stress. If he's happy with the club, which he clearly is then it might be the only way he could get the money he is worth.

I concede that we would be under salary cap stress, however I don't believe it's a long-term problem

- We haven't signed Dixon yet (we certainly will be after that)
- Kornes retired freeing up a lot of money (more than enough for Hartlett, Wingard, & Wines to receive decent pay raise - but the back ending is apparent as other club could offer significantly more per year over a smaller number of years)
- Schulz & Butcher have taken pay cuts and we have delisted a fair amount of players
- Kane Mitchell will likely experience a pay cut; &
- The club is looking to trade Aaron Young and Andrew Moore

In all honesty, I think PAFC are trying to do something similar to the Swans - but not to the same extreme (we still want a decent amount of depth). I believe the objective is a 35-40 player list (all quality, no trash - obviously Butcher deviates from this requirement  :P ) with most players being paid above the AFL's average but yet no one will be receiving the ridiculous +$800k deals (besides, possibly, Wingard who I would consider $800k per season a bargain - could easily go for +1 mil).

That's just my thoughts on it, but until Dixon is signed on the $650k per year deal, we are fine (afterwards their will be significant pressure and that's why I suspect 2016 will definitely be Schulz' final season at PAFC - his departure at the end of 2016 frees up $400k per season to go to Wines & Wingard's pay raises). 

In terms of personnel, 2016 will be one of our best shots over the next 5 years to win a premiership (if not our best shot). With Dixon coming in, I would say our list would be the strongest in the club's history. The question is whether they will find consistency though - because if they don't they risk falling out of the top 4 or even the top 8 again  :-\

[powersuperkents]

I don't know what Gold Coast want from us...

pick 10 for Dixon is considered a slight risk (has played 16 games in his best season), due to his proneness to injury. Yet they want two first round picks for him...

Furthermore, they are willing to trade prodigy, and durable, Harley Bennell with pick 22 for picks 16 & 30something.

and, unlike Dixon, Bennell was still contracted....

They better not expect us to make up the difference because they flowered themselves over. Pick 10 is generous and the fact they are requesting more is getting unreasonable (they will soon request a player with pick 10, I guarantee it)...

[Toga]

They better not expect us to make up the difference because they flowered themselves over. Pick 10 is generous and the fact they are requesting more is getting unreasonable (they will soon request a player with pick 10, I guarantee it)...

Better just hope they just ask for moore from you instead ;)

[powersuperkents]

They better not expect us to make up the difference because they flowered themselves over. Pick 10 is generous and the fact they are requesting more is getting unreasonable (they will soon request a player with pick 10, I guarantee it)...

Better just hope they just ask for moore from you instead ;)

That would be perfect  :P

Would not mind if we traded Aaron Young either (apparently the two are trade bait, but no one wants them)

[Grazz]

They better not expect us to make up the difference because they flowered themselves over. Pick 10 is generous and the fact they are requesting more is getting unreasonable (they will soon request a player with pick 10, I guarantee it)...

Better just hope they just ask for moore from you instead ;)

Lol I got it mate. ;)

[powersuperkents]

Welcome Jimmy T  ;D



Port Adelaide received Toumpas and pick No.32 and gave up picks No.29, 50 and 68

Bargain

[Toga]

Don't see why you wouldn't take him with a deal like that. Why not.

[powersuperkents]

It looks like Toumpas will vaunt the #31 guernsey for our club

Hopefully Dixon gets the #10

[elephants]

Yeah I reckon he's absolutely worth the punt. The dude was a jet as a junior so lets see what he can produce.

[Atto]

Dixon!!!!!

[powersuperkents]

okay my intel was wrong. Toumpas to wear Kornes #18  :)

Stoked for next season. Young list and talented list with all the characteristics of a dynasty (even the shock fall, in 2015, before absolute domination like the Geelong dynasty in 2006 or the Hawthorn dynasty (which we will effective demolish next season I might add  :P) in 2009)

My bet is still Dixon to vaunt #10

[TomK]

How disrespectful to Kane, giving that spud his number ;)