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Started by GM, September 20, 2014, 10:03:44 PM

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fanTCfool

I think one of the problems is that Lobbe doesn't look like it up forward, but Ryder seems to be the preferred ruck.
The Pear would probably ideally want 2 x Ryder.

powersuperkents

Quote from: fanTCfool on September 18, 2015, 09:31:56 PM
I think one of the problems is that Lobbe doesn't look like it up forward, but Ryder seems to be the preferred ruck.
The Pear would probably ideally want 2 x Ryder.
Agree mate, Lobbe is a pure ruck but it's when Ryder is marginally better than him (no offence intended, besides Goldy & Sandi I think Ryder is the best ruck in the comp. and the no. 1 hit-out specialist).

The fact they are both quality rucks (two of the best imo) makes it so much more difficult. Ryder is effective up forward, but at the end of the day he's a superstar in the ruck. Poor foresight by our coaching staff, but I would rather have Ryder than not have him. If Schulz took a pay cut, it would be ideal


HF: Westhoff, Charlie Dixon, White
FF: Patrick Ryder, Jay Schulz, Chad Wingard

kilbluff1985

wow that call on Ryder what about Nic Nat

powersuperkents

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
wow that call on Ryder what about Nic Nat
Forgot about him

Nic Nat will be the best. Already been an All-Australian and only 25 years of age. Would not surprise me if he became the greatest ruck in history. Still like Ryder's clean open-palm taps but I have to rate Nic Nat as something special (the Eagles have been blessed with rucks since the 90's)

fanTCfool

Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
wow that call on Ryder what about Nic Nat
Forgot about him

Nic Nat will be the best. Already been an All-Australian and only 25 years of age. Would not surprise me if he became the greatest ruck in history. Still like Ryder's clean open-palm taps but I have to rate Nic Nat as something special (the Eagles have been blessed with rucks since the 90's)

Ruck has become so much more than the Stoppages now.
The more Midfielder like, the better.
Stef Martin is basically a giant mid, similar with Nic Nat.
However, what sets the two apart for mine, the Nic Nat taps are always so influential.

powersuperkents

Quote from: fanTCfool on September 18, 2015, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
wow that call on Ryder what about Nic Nat
Forgot about him

Nic Nat will be the best. Already been an All-Australian and only 25 years of age. Would not surprise me if he became the greatest ruck in history. Still like Ryder's clean open-palm taps but I have to rate Nic Nat as something special (the Eagles have been blessed with rucks since the 90's)

Ruck has become so much more than the Stoppages now.
The more Midfielder like, the better.
Stef Martin is basically a giant mid, similar with Nic Nat.
However, what sets the two apart for mine, the Nic Nat taps are always so influential.
Noticed that myself and feel that was what made Lobbe so good last season. We have certainly put ourselves in a tough position by recruiting Ryder because we have two people to do one man's job.

Will be interesting to see how Hinkley addresses it next season because it seems the easiest practical solution is to make Lobbe the allocated emergency. But considering all factors, the club cannot do that to a bona fide starter who is also our VC

Very difficult situation. As you said, if we could get another tall or retain Schulz - to play alongside Dixon - it could benefit our small forwards. We have the personnel, but I think Westhoff is too influential to restrict to the forward pocket (and he prefers to take a solid mark rather than break the pack and bring the ball to ground like Ryder does).

Rusty00

Schulz has signed a new 1 year contract.

Somewhat surprised with this as thought he might be on the way out with Dixon coming in.

powersuperkents

Quote from: Rusty00 on September 19, 2015, 10:59:27 PM
Schulz has signed a new 1 year contract.

Somewhat surprised with this as thought he might be on the way out with Dixon coming in.
What I want to know is whether he took a pay cut so we could still secure Dixon

If so, he is a legend and I love his loyalty

If not, and we lose our shot at fitting Dixon under our salary cap, I won't know how to feel about it. Obviously loves the club and the supporters love him, however I wouldn't want his loyalty to cost the club its forward future (Butcher... yes... Butcher is currently our 2nd key forward in the order. We need Schulz & Dixon)

Ricochet

Quote from: Rusty00 on September 19, 2015, 10:59:27 PM
Schulz has signed a new 1 year contract.

Somewhat surprised with this as thought he might be on the way out with Dixon coming in.
:(

Atto

Quote from: powersuperkents on September 19, 2015, 11:17:59 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on September 19, 2015, 10:59:27 PM
Schulz has signed a new 1 year contract.

Somewhat surprised with this as thought he might be on the way out with Dixon coming in.
What I want to know is whether he took a pay cut so we could still secure Dixon

If so, he is a legend and I love his loyalty

If not, and we lose our shot at fitting Dixon under our salary cap, I won't know how to feel about it. Obviously loves the club and the supporters love him, however I wouldn't want his loyalty to cost the club its forward future (Butcher... yes... Butcher is currently our 2nd key forward in the order. We need Schulz & Dixon)

I'm not sure about what he was on beforehand but he's on 400k for this season. I'm unsure about what to feel about these news of Schulz signing a new contract but I guess they're similar to what you're feeling PSK.

RaisyDaisy

Last night on Fox Footy they debuted a documentary called INSIDE Port Adelaide

It covered the 2015 season and gave a real good insight into the club. I'm sure there will be re-runs over the next day or so. I'd highly recommend it not just to any Port fan, but any AFL fan.

powersuperkents

Call me superstitious but if the Hawk's 3peat means anything to me... It's that Port Adelaide will win the premiership in a showdown against the Hawks next year  :P

Dudge

Quote from: powersuperkents on October 04, 2015, 01:01:51 PM
Call me superstitious but if the Hawk's 3peat means anything to me... It's that Port Adelaide will win the premiership in a showdown against the Hawks next year  :P

Haha, I've said something similar in anther post ;)

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