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Port Adelaide 2015 / 2016 Discussion

Started by GM, September 20, 2014, 10:03:44 PM

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powersuperkents

Season Review:

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-09-10/paddy-ryder-didnt-work-out-for-port

I think it's pretty accurate, however these guys did say that GWS were a chance at the premiership 'next' year and that Mumford could win the 2016 Brownlow Medal  :P

powersuperkents

Chad Wingard 5 hrs ago on Twitter

"To end all the crap, I have not spoken to any clubs or been offered anything by another team! Media is once again full of it. #pear"

His comments to a Crows fan, when suggesting the idea of joining Adelaide...

"I'd rather fly alone"

Our player retention has always been fantastic (and 2nd to none since Hinkley moved in - besides Spud Newton)

I think if we were to lose a gun, it would be Schulz (and he doesn't want to leave, he's going to be forced to), not a young player (I am worried we won't have enough in the salary cap to pay Chad what he deserves next year though)

powersuperkents

AFL Players' 22under22 team

FB: Rory Laird (ADL), Jack Hombsch (PA), Kade Kolodjashij (GCS)
HB: Adam Saad (GCS), Jake Lever (ADL), Elliot Yeo (WCE)
C: Lachie Neale (FRE), Patrick Cripps (CAR), Adam Treloar (GWS)
HF: Jake Stringer - C (WBD), Jesse Hogan (MEL), Luke Parker (SYD)
FF: Chad Wingard (PA), Jeremy Cameron (GWS), Tom Lynch (GCS)
Foll: Brodie Grundy (Coll), Marcus Bontempelli (WCD), Ollie Wines (PA)
Interchange: Tom Langdon (Coll), Dylan Shiel (GWS), Brandon Ellis (Rich), Devon Smith (GWS)

Congrats to Wingard, Wines, & Hombsch (only GWS had more inclusions). Good to see Wines pushed into rover with limited games and even better to see Hombsch at Fullback.

All the players selected definitely deserve it but I feel Grundy only got the spot because he was the only ruck under 22 (I concede he was good this season but there was no competition) and Langdon is the only incorrect inclusion imo (if I had to rank all these players he would easily be the worst by a significant amount). Besides him, the AFL has got it right for once (usually easier to select this team than AA).

Big congrats to Cripps, Hogan, Saad, & Lever as first years and an even big congratulations for Stringer (named captain). Macrae unlucky due to inconsistency (still think he would have been better than Langdon though...)

Holz

Delist Redden and Shaw and keep Butcher.

I dont understand any of those moves.

Jay

Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2015, 10:24:12 AM
Delist Redden and Shaw and keep Butcher.

I dont understand any of those moves.
Neither do I. Liked Mitch Harvey as a prospect too - why give up on him so quickly?

PowerBug

#245
I am so confused right now

Jarrad Redden might get picked up by another team I reckon. Shaw has been in the system for a few years now and hasn't played a game. Mitch Harvey I thought would get another year though.
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elephants

S(haw)ly Shaw has more upside than Butcher though?!

Didn't think a huge amount of Redden, really slow and just a less polished, good version of Lobbe.

powersuperkents

#247
Mitch Harvey is the most disappointing delistment. Redden only went because Ryder - he was unreliable depth (due to injury) but had upside.

Port stated the futures of the young key forwards at the club would depend upon whether or not they were going to recruit Charlie Dixon  :)

These actions speak louder than words... done deal

I think the club has invested too much into Butcher to delist him now. Yes he sucks a**, but he's a cult figure and a gun SANFL player (probably the only reason Kane Mitchell & Butcher will stay on the list in the long-haul - SANFL premierships, which we still haven't managed to win).

I think Andrew Moore will be traded. So at least there is a win there for us, and a loss for the club who recruits him  :P

elephants

Haha what about your mate Aaron Young? ;)

powersuperkents

Quote from: elephants on September 18, 2015, 01:00:55 PM
Haha what about your mate Aaron Young? ;)
He's not even good in the SANFL

If he was pick #9, I would dislike him more than Moore  :P

powersuperkents

Speculation of talks about Lobbe's future with the club.

Ryder has made things difficult. But I wouldn't want to see Lobbe traded (contracted until the end of 2019). He has sentimentally become a fan favourite. The problem is like every other club, we can't have it all

Holz

Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 03:20:41 PM
Speculation of talks about Lobbe's future with the club.

Ryder has made things difficult. But I wouldn't want to see Lobbe traded (contracted until the end of 2019). He has sentimentally become a fan favourite. The problem is like every other club, we can't have it all

can you go with just ryder.

surely if you thought you would trade lobbe you would keep redden.

powersuperkents

Quote from: Holz on September 18, 2015, 04:01:50 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on September 18, 2015, 03:20:41 PM
Speculation of talks about Lobbe's future with the club.

Ryder has made things difficult. But I wouldn't want to see Lobbe traded (contracted until the end of 2019). He has sentimentally become a fan favourite. The problem is like every other club, we can't have it all

can you go with just ryder.

surely if you thought you would trade lobbe you would keep redden.

Good point. I don't think Lobbe will be happy serving as a reserve though

fanTCfool

Agreed, you couldn't dump Redden and give up Lobbe.
What if Ryder got injured?
Trengove? Westhoff? Butcher?
Would be a huge blow.

powersuperkents

Quote from: fanTCfool on September 18, 2015, 08:12:14 PM
Agreed, you couldn't dump Redden and give up Lobbe.
What if Ryder got injured?
Trengove? Westhoff? Butcher?
Would be a huge blow.
Yeah Holz reassured me  :)

The problem now is that they are both starters, how are we going to make it work (I'm hoping there is a way we can field both effectively - seems to be the biggest thing holding Port back at this point).

Maybe
1st Ryder (Lobbe on interchange) with Ryder moving to the forward line when Lobbe comes on
2nd Lobbe (Ryder forward) - wasn't that effective, but it didn't necessarily fail (towards the end of the season - v Crows & Bombers it was quite promising as Ryder delivered - transfers usually take a year to settle as well)

Dixon will obviously have stints in the ruck if one of these two are injured. Agree that the club won't part with Lobbe (he's co-vice-captain so it would be a nightmare for morale too)