Port Adelaide 2015 / 2016 Discussion

[powersuperkents]

Ah Chee is going to be incredible. His strength in a pack is great, his ability to get his arms free find a target. Decision to handball to Monfries late could've been costly but he made up for it and kicked a goal later. Great player to be.

Not his fault. In any sport you listen to your more experienced teammates and follow their judgement. Definitely a lapse of good judgement on his part, however the blame is entirely Monfries' for putting him in that position when he should have known he didn't have enough space to make that call.

Agree with everything you said, just felt the need to point that out.     

[Atto]

Why can't we play like that every week  :)

Fantastic effort, biggest difference was our precision and speed (haven't seen it like that all season).

Worried about Lobbe (Ryder needs to be pure ruck imo) and don't know where he fits in.

Sam Gray & Ah Chee was fantastic - Moore & Young's futures are now unclear.

It's probably best if Schulz moves on imo. Still has the accuracy but should have scored 10 goals rather than 4 (wasted most opportunities). It's sad but it would be best for Butcher to move on as well. Monfries is another whose future needs to be considered - was good but that one call is not what you want from an experienced player (almost cost us the match). I also think Ebert needs to stand down as VC & give it to Robbie Gray (Ebert has been shocking this year and isn't a good decision-maker).

If I recall correctly, Gray doesn't even want to be in the leadership group let alone VC - he isn't even in it now! He was last year but for this year he wanted to focus on footy, or at least that's what he said publicly. I say give it to Wines already lol

[PowerBug]

Ah Chee is going to be incredible. His strength in a pack is great, his ability to get his arms free find a target. Decision to handball to Monfries late could've been costly but he made up for it and kicked a goal later. Great player to be.

Not his fault. In any sport you listen to your more experienced teammates and follow their judgement. Definitely a lapse of good judgement on his part, however the blame is entirely Monfries' for putting him in that position when he should have known he didn't have enough space to make that call.

Agree with everything you said, just felt the need to point that out.   

Oh yeah. Monfries shouldn't have called for it you're right. At least it wasn't costly and they'll laugh it off now :)

[powersuperkents]

Why can't we play like that every week  :)

Fantastic effort, biggest difference was our precision and speed (haven't seen it like that all season).

Worried about Lobbe (Ryder needs to be pure ruck imo) and don't know where he fits in.

Sam Gray & Ah Chee was fantastic - Moore & Young's futures are now unclear.

It's probably best if Schulz moves on imo. Still has the accuracy but should have scored 10 goals rather than 4 (wasted most opportunities). It's sad but it would be best for Butcher to move on as well. Monfries is another whose future needs to be considered - was good but that one call is not what you want from an experienced player (almost cost us the match). I also think Ebert needs to stand down as VC & give it to Robbie Gray (Ebert has been shocking this year and isn't a good decision-maker).

If I recall correctly, Gray doesn't even want to be in the leadership group let alone VC - he isn't even in it now! He was last year but for this year he wanted to focus on footy, or at least that's what he said publicly. I say give it to Wines already lol

Can't argue with that, he'll be the next captain if he stays. That's for certain, I like Ebert as a player but I wouldn't put him in our top 5. I think a leader shouldn't be making the same simple errors he does every single game. I hope they make a change. Although, Boak & Gray would be the most marketable Co-Captains in history, I have to agree and say that Wines has shown the most initiative (possibly Wingard being Wines' deputy in the distant future)

[PowerBug]

I just thought I would point out:
If North lose to Freo, Dogs, Tigers (All very possible)
Geelong only win one of the Crows/Pies matches (Possible)
And we win both (Gold Coast and Freo who will be assured top spot as they will have won tomorrow so will probably rest)

Then we will be 12-10 and equal 8th with North and Geelong and have % on Geelong and with some luck % on North.

[powersuperkents]

I just thought I would point out:
If North lose to Freo, Dogs, Tigers (All very possible)
Geelong only win one of the Crows/Pies matches (Possible)
And we win both (Gold Coast and Freo who will be assured top spot as they will have won tomorrow so will probably rest)

Then we will be 12-10 and equal 8th with North and Geelong and have % on Geelong and with some luck % on North.

It's a long shot, but it's worth trying

I think it's fair to say that when Port doesn't make finals... everyone loses  :P

I tip the Crows over Geelong (they need to win, and I hate saying this but they are a strong team and will smash Geelong in the clearances if Mitch Duncan isn't present - even with Duncan, the Crows easily get the benefit of the doubt).

Maybe better for the PAFC players not to know this because since the finals pressure was relieved they have been fantastic

Also, don't trust Richmond to deliver, at their best they are fantastic, however, and like us, their form varies every week. Plus a poor record against the Roos over the last 3 seasons - however, the Roos are just as inconsistent (if not more)

[powersuperkents]

If we are any chance;

We are going to have to beat Gold Coast by around 100 points (wouldn't bank on it - not a team you write off)

North will need to get smashed (not lose) all 3 games

Geelong will have to just win one and get smashed in the other game (that is realistically our best case scenario)

I just don't see it, in AFL once you're relying on other teams to make finals that's when you know it's over or you don't deserve it. Richmond were a good example last season. People were writing them off as they needed only one win to secure it but it was against the Swans. The other 3 contenders were relying on the Tiges to lose so they could benefit from it. The Tigers took control and just won it (regardless of how the other teams performed over the last 10 weeks) and they rightfully deserved 8th spot. If we are not in a position to take it ourselves, it literally requires a miracle because the players can only play and hope (we are literally powerless in determining our sides fate while North, Adelaide & Geelong are the two in control - I don't think Geelong will make it though).

Tbf, we did have the hardest draw in the comp. though, and our double match-up which was supposed to be our 'free wins' came against the Bulldogs (Hawks twice, Freo twice, Sydney twice, Crows twice, & Bulldogs twice is a bs match-up).

This will make you more angry... between the second last time Collingwood played the Swans (R2, 2014) and the last time they played the Swans (last week), we had played the Swans 4 times!!!

We better have a piss-easy draw next season and Hinkley better draft Callum Ah Chee rather than another key forward prospect (we can trade one in or use Mitch Harvey)

[nas]

We don't deserve to be there. Losses to Carlton & Lions sums it up fairly well.

[powersuperkents]

We don't deserve to be there. Losses to Carlton & Lions sums it up fairly well.

+1

If we had won those games we would be in the 8 now. Summed it up perfectly because looking back on this season, they were the two games that cost us

[PowerBug]

If we are any chance;

We are going to have to beat Gold Coast by around 100 points (wouldn't bank on it - not a team you write off)

North will need to get smashed (not lose) all 3 games

Geelong will have to just win one and get smashed in the other game (that is realistically our best case scenario)

It's not that difficult though, Geelong have worse % than us. The % gap to North isn't that big.


I'm expecting North to win today though and as nas said we don't deserve to be there, but I don't think we deserved to be 12th either. Hopefully we can finish 9th, at least it's the top half of the ladder.



We won't get an easy draw, we've beaten Hawks twice, Dogs, North, and Crows. 5 wins over top 8 sides the AFL knows where we should be and will give us a draw accordingly. ::)

Losses to Brisbane and Carlton, flower they hurt right now.

[powersuperkents]

If we are any chance;

We are going to have to beat Gold Coast by around 100 points (wouldn't bank on it - not a team you write off)

North will need to get smashed (not lose) all 3 games

Geelong will have to just win one and get smashed in the other game (that is realistically our best case scenario)

It's not that difficult though, Geelong have worse % than us. The % gap to North isn't that big.


I'm expecting North to win today though and as nas said we don't deserve to be there, but I don't think we deserved to be 12th either. Hopefully we can finish 9th, at least it's the top half of the ladder.



We won't get an easy draw, we've beaten Hawks twice, Dogs, North, and Crows. 5 wins over top 8 sides the AFL knows where we should be and will give us a draw accordingly. ::)

Losses to Brisbane and Carlton, flower they hurt right now.

I reckon this is bs and favouritism. If we had the same draw as teams like Collingwood we would be secure in the top 8, we should get the same draw next year as they got this year (but the AFL bases the draw on some bullshower software which will flower us over - I think it's just some of the other clubs feel threatened and want to make things harder for us).

The draw wasn't the reason we missed finals but it was a big part of it regardless  :-\

9th place finish will be nice, if we could either trade our first round pick for a key forward or draft another match-winner I would be happy. Might need to get a bigger fullback but Carlisle's mobility has been an advantage considering we use a fast-paced game style.

North has ended any finals miracle today but they deserved the win and they will be a team I'll follow through the finals. All I'm hoping for in the finals is that the Eagles can beat Hawthorn at the Subi, Hawks fly back to Melbourne and either lose, or more likely just get bye, against either the Swans; Dogs; Tiges; or North (all capable teams), and hopefully flying back to Subi if they win to face the Dockers will be too much for them. Nothing against the Hawks but once a team starts winning consecutively it gets to the point where all other supporters turn against them (like the Lions in 2003 & 2004 (only time none Collingwood supporters cheered for the Pies  :P )

[PowerBug]

We will see what happens mate, I just hope we can win the final two matches of the season, knock off the Dockers from top spot by beating them in Round 23.

The is much to like about this team, we will launch a finals assault next season, couldn't cope with expectations this year and losses to the bottom two sides is pretty disgusting for a side wanting to play finals.

[nas]

Home for the game on the Goldie, so will be in attendance.

[Pkbaldy]

Anyone watch the Jarm Impey video on your clubs facebook page this morning?? Show's why this kid is a true G.V Boy. If you read the comments he even suggests that he shaves his ratty beard haha.

[powersuperkents]

Ah Chee, Sam Gray, & Karl Amon > Moore, Young, Butcher (x 1000)

Kane Mitchell seems to be more of a team mascot so I'm going to withhold my comment on him hahaha

Next season I want us to start the season with Ah Chee, Gray, & Amon though - Moore, Mitchell, & Young will have to work their ways back into the sub's vest.

It's good to see that we don't have to worry about Tom Jonas anymore (was worried this season that he dropped from on of the most underrated lock-down defenders in the comp. to a spud - good to see he's recaptured his form).

Hopefully 'the Karl' can become a second 'Chad' (then we've figuratively cloned our best match-winner  :P ) 

I really hope we part way with Spud-chulz (Freo will probably take him) and sign Charlie Dixon (maybe spend Butcher to the Gold Coast in the process). Dixon looks like he belongs at Port as our Key forward