Port Adelaide 2015 / 2016 Discussion

[powersuperkents]

Rumour is strong up here that you are favoured to sign Charlie Dixon because of his relationship with Hinkley and Hart.

Port don't have alot of cash spare in their cap apparently, can they come up with a deal that gets him. Crows could offer him a better deal i think.

Crows are after Motlop and if they want him it will cost the $600k freed up by Dangerfield. Scharenberg is another the two teams will take a punt at. Port will have cash to spare, if we don't extend Schulz's contract (on of our highest paid players).

We've still got room in the cap this year, think you guys are close to 100% now.
His relationship with Hinkley would have you guys in the box seat particularly if Schultz leaves as you said mate theres the cash right there.

Schulz doesn't want to leave though, and I don't think Hinkley would want him to  :-\

It's tough because the club are unable to offer Schulz more money (as you said, they are close to 100%) and have only been offering him pay cuts. I don't see Port getting rid of Schulz so it will most likely be between the Crows (don't know how he will fit into your forward line though - unless he's more of a long-term option) or the Lions (how I think would be close to maxing out there salary cap as well).

The AFL implemented new rules for player transfers allowing them to breach their salary cap restriction (obviously in a move to support Victorian based clubs - i.e. Collingwood in getting Treloar and Geelong in getting 4 star players!!!), but it won't help a team at maximum capacity (I wouldn't be surprised if the rule didn't apply to Non-Vic clubs either  :P because it seems like it has only been brought in to allow Collingwood and Geelong to make hoopdream recruitings over the off-season (meanwhile the Swans have a trade-ban for literally doing nothing wrong...)

Honestly, I don't see Schulz leaving, so there will most likely be no room for Dixon - a lot of Cornes salary would go to Schulz and a few young players and I don't know what Logan is being paid but he is rookie listed so no point working it out. In times like this Port needs to be more concerned about retention of young talent, as opposed to bulking up their list (unlike the Crows who will need to cover Dangerfield and don't have problems with retention - I don't know what the Lions are doing, they should work on on-field performance with the players they have rather then recruit more players to join in on the game day mess we see most weekends - it seems their younger players are the brightest thing about the club and priority picks won't help them because they have wasted plenty of talent in the past - Docherty, Polec, Yeo, & Longer.

[Grazz]

Well summed up mate, you do do it well. Agree with all of that. ;)

[Ringo]

Rumour is strong up here that you are favoured to sign Charlie Dixon because of his relationship with Hinkley and Hart.

Port don't have alot of cash spare in their cap apparently, can they come up with a deal that gets him. Crows could offer him a better deal i think.

Crows are after Motlop and if they want him it will cost the $600k freed up by Dangerfield. Scharenberg is another the two teams will take a punt at. Port will have cash to spare, if we don't extend Schulz's contract (on of our highest paid players).

We've still got room in the cap this year, think you guys are close to 100% now.
His relationship with Hinkley would have you guys in the box seat particularly if Schultz leaves as you said mate theres the cash right there.

Schulz doesn't want to leave though, and I don't think Hinkley would want him to  :-\

It's tough because the club are unable to offer Schulz more money (as you said, they are close to 100%) and have only been offering him pay cuts. I don't see Port getting rid of Schulz so it will most likely be between the Crows (don't know how he will fit into your forward line though - unless he's more of a long-term option) or the Lions (how I think would be close to maxing out there salary cap as well).

The AFL implemented new rules for player transfers allowing them to breach their salary cap restriction (obviously in a move to support Victorian based clubs - i.e. Collingwood in getting Treloar and Geelong in getting 4 star players!!!), but it won't help a team at maximum capacity (I wouldn't be surprised if the rule didn't apply to Non-Vic clubs either  :P because it seems like it has only been brought in to allow Collingwood and Geelong to make hoopdream recruitings over the off-season (meanwhile the Swans have a trade-ban for literally doing nothing wrong...)

Honestly, I don't see Schulz leaving, so there will most likely be no room for Dixon - a lot of Cornes salary would go to Schulz and a few young players and I don't know what Logan is being paid but he is rookie listed so no point working it out. In times like this Port needs to be more concerned about retention of young talent, as opposed to bulking up their list (unlike the Crows who will need to cover Dangerfield and don't have problems with retention - I don't know what the Lions are doing, they should work on on-field performance with the players they have rather then recruit more players to join in on the game day mess we see most weekends - it seems their younger players are the brightest thing about the club and priority picks won't help them because they have wasted plenty of talent in the past - Docherty, Polec, Yeo, & Longer.

Mostly agree with everything you have said,  We do have room in our cap for recruitment. Suspect Staker will also retire, Berger and Aish are almost certain to leave freeing up further capacity. It is obvious to all we need a forward target and unfortunately injuries this year have not helped the development of Close and Freeman and a resting ruck does not work. We will be pursuing one via free agency and I think that will help. Vickery has also been mentioned. Injuries have not assisted on field performances, Hanley, Rockliff and Beams have missed 18 weeks between them and are our top 3 players,

[powersuperkents]

Rumour is strong up here that you are favoured to sign Charlie Dixon because of his relationship with Hinkley and Hart.

Port don't have alot of cash spare in their cap apparently, can they come up with a deal that gets him. Crows could offer him a better deal i think.

Crows are after Motlop and if they want him it will cost the $600k freed up by Dangerfield. Scharenberg is another the two teams will take a punt at. Port will have cash to spare, if we don't extend Schulz's contract (on of our highest paid players).

We've still got room in the cap this year, think you guys are close to 100% now.
His relationship with Hinkley would have you guys in the box seat particularly if Schultz leaves as you said mate theres the cash right there.

Schulz doesn't want to leave though, and I don't think Hinkley would want him to  :-\

It's tough because the club are unable to offer Schulz more money (as you said, they are close to 100%) and have only been offering him pay cuts. I don't see Port getting rid of Schulz so it will most likely be between the Crows (don't know how he will fit into your forward line though - unless he's more of a long-term option) or the Lions (how I think would be close to maxing out there salary cap as well).

The AFL implemented new rules for player transfers allowing them to breach their salary cap restriction (obviously in a move to support Victorian based clubs - i.e. Collingwood in getting Treloar and Geelong in getting 4 star players!!!), but it won't help a team at maximum capacity (I wouldn't be surprised if the rule didn't apply to Non-Vic clubs either  :P because it seems like it has only been brought in to allow Collingwood and Geelong to make hoopdream recruitings over the off-season (meanwhile the Swans have a trade-ban for literally doing nothing wrong...)

Honestly, I don't see Schulz leaving, so there will most likely be no room for Dixon - a lot of Cornes salary would go to Schulz and a few young players and I don't know what Logan is being paid but he is rookie listed so no point working it out. In times like this Port needs to be more concerned about retention of young talent, as opposed to bulking up their list (unlike the Crows who will need to cover Dangerfield and don't have problems with retention - I don't know what the Lions are doing, they should work on on-field performance with the players they have rather then recruit more players to join in on the game day mess we see most weekends - it seems their younger players are the brightest thing about the club and priority picks won't help them because they have wasted plenty of talent in the past - Docherty, Polec, Yeo, & Longer.

Mostly agree with everything you have said,  We do have room in our cap for recruitment. Suspect Staker will also retire, Berger and Aish are almost certain to leave freeing up further capacity. It is obvious to all we need a forward target and unfortunately injuries this year have not helped the development of Close and Freeman and a resting ruck does not work. We will be pursuing one via free agency and I think that will help. Vickery has also been mentioned. Injuries have not assisted on field performances, Hanley, Rockliff and Beams have missed 18 weeks between them and are our top 3 players,

+1

If they recruited Schache and got a priority pick (which they used to recruit Weitering). I would tip them to be a top 4 team in the next 5-7 years if Leppa can get everything else right

[powersuperkents]

"Coach Ken Hinkley will have to decide whether to swap John Butcher with Jay Schulz this week â€" a seemingly simple decision made difficult by Butcher's solid contribution against GWS"

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-18/in-the-mix-round-21

Is this sarcasm? hahaha I watched the game and he literally did nothing hahahaha

[PowerBug]

Butcher has to play the last three weeks of the season, that way we can finally say you are not good enough for AFL and drop him.

[tbagrocks]

I wonder how far away Mitch Harvey is from getting a go? Wouldn't hurt giving him a couple of games now would it? ???

[powersuperkents]

Butcher has to play the last three weeks of the season, that way we can finally say you are not good enough for AFL and drop him.

yeah I agree mate

Had a lot of promise when recruited, first kpp taken in that draft. He at least owes the club a few games to decide whether or not he is a bust.

It was a shallow draft though (steal being Fyfe at #20).

[Jay]

Butcher has to play the last three weeks of the season, that way we can finally say you are not good enough for AFL and drop him.

People don't know that already?  :-X

[powersuperkents]

I wonder how far away Mitch Harvey is from getting a go? Wouldn't hurt giving him a couple of games now would it? ???

Definitely have him before Mason Shaw etc.

I think he would be ready, however if there was any reason not to unveil him it would be his last two SANFL games. Other than that he's been fantastic over the last two years.

I guess it's because Harvey is only 20, still in contract as a long-term prospect and cost only #45

Butcher is expected to be breaking out now, he's at the age where most key forwards find their form and was intended to be a lock in FF by now when we drafted him. He cost pick #8 and, as Powrerbug pointed out, Port aren't playing key forwards to gain. It's too see what we have to lose.

If Butcher plays AFL level and dominates it's a win
If he plays AFL level and plays poorly, it's a loss
If we don't play him and that marks the end of his career, it's a loss
If we don't play him and another club untaps that potential, it would be the worst case scenario as we need a prospect FF and we didn't at least give him a chance and another club would reap the rewards of our hard work developing him

I think that would be Port's rationale

I'd say if Butcher flops, Harvey has an opportunity to break in next season 

[PowerBug]

Butcher has to play the last three weeks of the season, that way we can finally say you are not good enough for AFL and drop him.

People don't know that already?  :-X

Yes but we can confirm it now. He gets 4 matches to show something. I think it's fair And hopefully Port see it this way too.

[ADEZ]

Yeah I like Butch in for now, give him one last chance at least and I think playing a full forward that runs direct and spills the footy to the ground is handy rather than Schulz darting into pockets which is why I think Dixon will be huge for us. I believe that Schulz would be an elite second forward but lacks the ability to clunk genuine contested marks and present a legitimate target to kick at. Having players like Gray, Neade and Wingard around the pockets will benefit from a traditional full forward as well.

[powersuperkents]

Best case scenario  :)

Schulz back, but Butcher stays in. The club are thinking of trialing him in the backs to temporarily replace Trengove.

Let's face it, he failed as a forward, but he was drafted as a key position prospect and if he can find his niche in defence over the remaining games, the club could stand to gain something after all - then all eyes turn to Andrew Moore next season (regardless of the outcome with Butcher)

[powersuperkents]

Why can't we play like that every week  :)

Fantastic effort, biggest difference was our precision and speed (haven't seen it like that all season).

Worried about Lobbe (Ryder needs to be pure ruck imo) and don't know where he fits in.

Sam Gray & Ah Chee was fantastic - Moore & Young's futures are now unclear.

It's probably best if Schulz moves on imo. Still has the accuracy but should have scored 10 goals rather than 4 (wasted most opportunities). It's sad but it would be best for Butcher to move on as well. Monfries is another whose future needs to be considered - was good but that one call is not what you want from an experienced player (almost cost us the match). I also think Ebert needs to stand down as VC & give it to Robbie Gray (Ebert has been shocking this year and isn't a good decision-maker).

[PowerBug]

Ah Chee is going to be incredible. His strength in a pack is great, his ability to get his arms free find a target. Decision to handball to Monfries late could've been costly but he made up for it and kicked a goal later. Great player to be.