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Port Adelaide 2015 / 2016 Discussion

Started by GM, September 20, 2014, 10:03:44 PM

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powersuperkents

Quote from: Ringo on May 18, 2015, 08:02:03 PM
Do not get too disillusioned mate. Inaccurate kicking cost you in the second half if that 1.7 had become say 4.3 result may have changed.

You still manged to switch the ball more quickly than we did from turnovers and the main issue was then getting free in the forward 50.  We zoned well and you were not able to get over it.

I still do not believe you chose not to tag Rich or Beams by sending Cornes to Rocky.  That imo was one of the biggest bungles.

You have to keep faith with your team and persevere through all. I should know as I have been supporting Bears/Lions for 27 years and have seen quite a few ups and down including a 200 point flogging at Carrarra. Sure you are disappointed but one game can turn it around. I still believe you can make the Top 4 but need to start showing something from now on.  Maybe this is the Kick in the Pants that will rekindle your fire.

Agree with your summation on McStay.
Agree with you 100% mate. Esp. with the decision to tag a recovering midfielder (who will always find the ball) over Beams or Rich (Rich is usually the 'go-to' man and this year he has thrived with the diverted attention to Beams). Hoping they get it together against Richmond, they can't rely on one player, however I think Ollie Wines is the best in our side and can make a difference - it will still be up to the rest of the side to lift though.

Brisbane have started to find form this season - and a lot earlier than I expected (usually happens in the second half of the year). A really good sign is that the recruits have finally become acclimated to their new team (esp. Beams who has been impressive, a lot of mids take time to adapt to increased attention from the opposition, this will really become good for him in the long-term). I really liked Lewis Taylor as well, not as fast as I imagined him being (thought of him as a Dangerfield, White, or Hill type), however he is very composed - impressive 2nd year player. 

PowerBug

Is this where us Port supporters point out that Brisbane were expected to be pushing for the 8 this season? So we actually lost to a mid table team, not one that was 18th heading into the round :P


Or maybe Brion the Lion was that intimidating that the Port players thought it was an actual Lion like the CEO wanted.
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tbagrocks

Port showed how good they are against Freo, Hawks and the SHOWDOWN they killed us and we weren't bad! So .......  WTF?

powersuperkents

Quote from: PowerBug on May 18, 2015, 08:37:57 PM
Is this where us Port supporters point out that Brisbane were expected to be pushing for the 8 this season? So we actually lost to a mid table team, not one that was 18th heading into the round :P


Or maybe Brion the Lion was that intimidating that the Port players thought it was an actual Lion like the CEO wanted.
I don't think we should discredit the Brisbane win, they did deserve it

Nevertheless, when you compare the perceivable difference between the two teams, quality of the lists, depth of talent, and the difficulties the Lions have faced over the past two seasons (literally 3 years worth of draft talent left the club, the most highly invested part of that talent -i.e. Polec- came to us) I think the Power really do need to be criticised. For a premiership contender the game should have been a comfortable win... Therefore, it is either Brisbane's best is the AFL's best or the Power's worst is not of top 8 standard.

The Power really need to work on consistency, form has been our greatest problem over the past 2 years and we cannot compete with teams like Hawthorn, Freo, & Sydney if we cannot perform as consistently. North Melbourne have improved on their form and Essendon seem to be more consistent this season, we don't want to take a step backwards this year and fall down the 8, let alone fall short of finals. I believe our best is the best in Australian football (Sydney is the only side we are yet to beat in good form), however it appears our worst would only make the cut against Carlton or the Gold Coast  :-\

PowerBug

Still believe it was Brion the Lion
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T Dog


Dudge

Not sure if teams have stepped up their fitness base, have worked out how to stop our run, or we  just assume we're going to beat certain teams. Don't like what I saw on Sunday by any means, but think our best is very good. Kenny's got to make the players believe that, or it's going to be a hard slog to make the 8. In saying all that, WCE and the Lions played better footy than we did, and definitely deserved their wins.

Yeah Brion helped ;D

Grazz

Result was a surprise, Port were poor Lions wanted it and to their credit played well and took it. Can't see Port playing that badly again anytime soon. Do Port need a plan B not sure yet but teams have done their homework and are hunting you this year. The run that was there is being stifled somewhat this year we have seen that. I think they will be ferocious this Sunday unlucky for the Tigers
and respond big time.

powersuperkents

Quote from: Grazz on May 20, 2015, 05:33:56 PM
Result was a surprise, Port were poor Lions wanted it and to their credit played well and took it. Can't see Port playing that badly again anytime soon. Do Port need a plan B not sure yet but teams have done their homework and are hunting you this year. The run that was there is being stifled somewhat this year we have seen that. I think they will be ferocious this Sunday unlucky for the Tigers
and respond big time.
+1

our problem is that out of all the contenders, we are the easiest to hunt  :-\ If we lose to the Tigers (who have the same intentions) it won't be long until the weakest teams attempt to claim the scalp (Melbourne almost did last season). I'm hoping they can lift for Cornes

Grazz

Port are generally pretty good at seeing off their great players, Kane being their 1st 300 game player and just the player he's been will have the team fired up for this weekend. Sounds silly to say but this could just be the game they need to sort a few things out.

Jay

Quote from: Grazz on May 21, 2015, 03:04:00 PM
Port are generally pretty good at seeing off their great players, Kane being their 1st 300 game player and just the player he's been will have the team fired up for this weekend. Sounds silly to say but this could just be the game they need to sort a few things out.
I can recall Kane's brother's farewell game ;)

Grazz

Quote from: Jayman on May 21, 2015, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: Grazz on May 21, 2015, 03:04:00 PM
Port are generally pretty good at seeing off their great players, Kane being their 1st 300 game player and just the player he's been will have the team fired up for this weekend. Sounds silly to say but this could just be the game they need to sort a few things out.
I can recall Kane's brother's farewell game ;)

Haha same.

Ziplock

Quote from: Grazz on May 21, 2015, 03:45:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on May 21, 2015, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: Grazz on May 21, 2015, 03:04:00 PM
Port are generally pretty good at seeing off their great players, Kane being their 1st 300 game player and just the player he's been will have the team fired up for this weekend. Sounds silly to say but this could just be the game they need to sort a few things out.
I can recall Kane's brother's farewell game ;)

Haha same.

powersuperkents

I think it would be constructive for the team to acknowledge where they currently are at.

Hinkley needs to tell them that as of 24/05/2015 - we are the worst side in the league...

The only team I could see us having a chance against at this point in time is Carlton & maybe the Saint or Gold Coast. There is nothing more frustrating then seeing an entity with an abundance of resources fail to use them and the attention now needs to be turned towards Hinkley & Voss because the players are not hitting their objectives. The 3rd quarter was the best example, there was literally no point in winning all those contests if we only claimed one... literally one flowering goal... which Richmond not only rendered redundant in the opening seconds of the 4th quarter, but than scored a consecutive (basically putting us in a worse position than we were in at HT, literally took about a minute).

No communication whatsoever between players. It puzzles me that Trengove failed to think of telling at least one teammate he was injured, as opposed to being the liability he soon became.

Another disgraceful match. I see no point in Patrick Ryder tbh.. We were better off with small forwards who stepped and took shots. Not a gumby that can't even mark (if he's not marking the ball, why is the club even paying him  >:( )

Incredibly frustrating to watch. The coaches need to be straightforward with the players and figure out a new gameplan (obviously it's too predictable). I think there needs to be drastic changes because I can't see this team winning a game if this form persists  :-\ (honestly would be open to the prospect of Malthouse coming in hahaha  :P - at least he is tough against players who flowering frustrate everyone)

PowerBug

Quote from: powersuperkents on May 24, 2015, 08:32:02 PM
I think it would be constructive for the team to acknowledge where they currently are at.

Hinkley needs to tell them that as of 24/05/2015 - we are the worst side in the league...

The only team I could see us having a chance against at this point in time is Carlton & maybe the Saint or Gold Coast. There is nothing more frustrating then seeing an entity with an abundance of resources fail to use them and the attention now needs to be turned towards Hinkley & Voss because the players are not hitting their objectives. The 3rd quarter was the best example, there was literally no point in winning all those contests if we only claimed one... literally one flowering goal... which Richmond not only rendered redundant in the opening seconds of the 4th quarter, but than scored a consecutive (basically putting us in a worse position than we were in at HT, literally took about a minute).

No communication whatsoever between players. It puzzles me that Trengove failed to think of telling at least one teammate he was injured, as opposed to being the liability he soon became.

Another disgraceful match. I see no point in Patrick Ryder tbh.. We were better off with small forwards who stepped and took shots. Not a gumby that can't even mark (if he's not marking the ball, why is the club even paying him  >:( )

Incredibly frustrating to watch. The coaches need to be straightforward with the players and figure out a new gameplan (obviously it's too predictable). I think there needs to be drastic changes because I can't see this team winning a game if this form persists  :-\ (honestly would be open to the prospect of Malthouse coming in hahaha  :P - at least he is tough against players who flowering frustrate everyone)
The part in bold is the problem.


And Brion the Lion is still giving our players nightmares 8)
Leader of the King Karl Amon fan club
Coach of WXV side Rio De Janeiro Jaguars
2023 SC: Rank 126