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powersuperkents

Quote from: PowerBug on May 24, 2015, 09:14:17 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on May 24, 2015, 08:32:02 PM
I think it would be constructive for the team to acknowledge where they currently are at.

Hinkley needs to tell them that as of 24/05/2015 - we are the worst side in the league...

The only team I could see us having a chance against at this point in time is Carlton & maybe the Saint or Gold Coast. There is nothing more frustrating then seeing an entity with an abundance of resources fail to use them and the attention now needs to be turned towards Hinkley & Voss because the players are not hitting their objectives. The 3rd quarter was the best example, there was literally no point in winning all those contests if we only claimed one... literally one flowering goal... which Richmond not only rendered redundant in the opening seconds of the 4th quarter, but than scored a consecutive (basically putting us in a worse position than we were in at HT, literally took about a minute).

No communication whatsoever between players. It puzzles me that Trengove failed to think of telling at least one teammate he was injured, as opposed to being the liability he soon became.

Another disgraceful match. I see no point in Patrick Ryder tbh.. We were better off with small forwards who stepped and took shots. Not a gumby that can't even mark (if he's not marking the ball, why is the club even paying him  >:( )

Incredibly frustrating to watch. The coaches need to be straightforward with the players and figure out a new gameplan (obviously it's too predictable). I think there needs to be drastic changes because I can't see this team winning a game if this form persists  :-\ (honestly would be open to the prospect of Malthouse coming in hahaha  :P - at least he is tough against players who flowering frustrate everyone)
The part in bold is the problem.


And Brion the Lion is still giving our players nightmares 8)
Yeah had strong suspicions about him (only real change since last season & has a poor track record as a coach)

What major changes has he made to the midfield though? Wines really made a difference with the contest possessions, the players seem more technically advanced than almost all other teams (execute steps and don't use evasive plays as a last resort), however that advantage is rendered moot when the players aren't executing the plays after the run (all the players can easily evade tacklers but they just turn it over when it comes to the disposal).

After today, I'm confident it has nothing to do with fitness... It's a structural problem and an unwillingness to undertake small (but by no means trivial tasks). Like I said last week, if the Power aren't willing to do all that needs to be done to win the game, there are 17 other teams that will. I have to say, excluding Robbie Gray, every player was responsible for at least one mishap (Westhoff being responsible for half of one) and if you follow up on these mishaps, or clangers if you will, you'll see that it would have lead to more than half of Richmond's total score. Add an inability to score and the Power seems to literally be giving the game away (esp. the Wingard/Schulz consecutive misses from point blank range which could have reduced the margin to 4 points in the 3rd quarter). I know how the Power are affected by form (so I'm not going to write them off just yet) but again, if this continues, I'm fearing the worst. 

Nige

Quote from: powersuperkents on May 24, 2015, 08:32:02 PM
Hinkley needs to tell them that as of 24/05/2015 - we are the worst side in the league...
Carlton have a pretty good case.  :P

RiOtChEsS

Hey Port fans is there bad blood between Kane Cornes and Mark Choco Williams?
When they formed the guard of honor he shook Brendan Lades hand and Damien Hardwicks hand and ignored Choco, they were close enough to touch each other but neither looked as though it was on the cards, premiership player and coach? sad to see they couldnt have a hand shake or hug

Slashers

Only 2 that played their guts out was Cornes :'( and HOMBSCH!!

Hombsch was huge! Actually went in HARD 'EVERY' single contest. Absolutely looked different to every other Port player out there.
Standout game. Congratulations Hombschy, you can hold your head high. Guaranteed game next week. Every other player should be put on notice.

powersuperkents

Quote from: Slashers on May 25, 2015, 11:16:29 AM
Only 2 that played their guts out was Cornes :'( and HOMBSCH!!

Hombsch was huge! Actually went in HARD 'EVERY' single contest. Absolutely looked different to every other Port player out there.
Standout game. Congratulations Hombschy, you can hold your head high. Guaranteed game next week. Every other player should be put on notice.
They should flowering drop Pittard

Hartlett/Ryder/Schulz should be put on hard warnings as well  >:(

I think the inability of the forward line to convert is the greatest problem. The defence and the midfield have to work harder as a result and the more they work the greater the probability for errors 

powersuperkents

Yes!! Now we can see whether '3 talls' up forward has been part of our goalkicking problem - Ryder out. I think our forward line was potent last year because of all the small forwards & then Schulz with support from the Hoff when needed. If we still struggle to score this week our forward trouble could be worse than imagined  :-\

Rusty00

I reckon your forward troubles are because there's less clean ball coming in. Opponents have stopped your free running game forcing bombed forward entries easy for defences to deal with.

powersuperkents

Quote from: Rusty00 on May 28, 2015, 07:05:56 PM
I reckon your forward troubles are because there's less clean ball coming in. Opponents have stopped your free running game forcing bombed forward entries easy for defences to deal with.
Yeah Hinkley really needs to alter the game-plan. I think the running paradigm depends on player effort. E.g. our huge fade in 2014 followed by trampling Richmond - the free-running game play did not change. But I have to agree, like the Clarkson Cluster in 2009, Hinkley needs to think of something new because it is becoming too predictable 

powersuperkents

 ;D

Need a comparable win against the Bulldogs to restore my confidence

For now I am happy with what I saw in the final 3 quarters  :)

Big Mac

Glad we could play you guys into form  ::)

powersuperkents

Quote from: Big  Mac on May 30, 2015, 07:32:40 PM
Glad we could play you guys into form  ::)
Demons played well, they were just unlucky that it had to be this week.

If we played like we did against Richmond or Brisbane, I think the scoreline would have been demons by 30-40.

As for the Power supporters who has impressed by Amon? I think he should have been given the full game and Sam Gray should have gotten the red vest. The kid was slick and efficient with the ball

Slashers

So what's you take on the 'Ryder OUT' scenario? Has he disrupted our balance?

powersuperkents

Quote from: Slashers on May 30, 2015, 11:24:56 PM
So what's you take on the 'Ryder OUT' scenario? Has he disrupted our balance?
Definitely, the small forwards & mids scored the goals this game and even Schulz could kick a bag. I think the problem with Ryder is he provide a desired target for the supply line. Now this wouldn't be a problem if he marked the ball, however that was not the case over the last month  :-\

Also, I can't stand when he gets the ball in play and looks for these useless handballs rather than backing himself in for a shot - today I was proud to see a lot of our mids & small forwards just going for it which was something I hadn't seen since the Hawthorn game. Ryder is too slow to contribute when the ball is in play, and he is diverting the supply from Wingard, Westhoff, & Schulz, who are all better markers. They really need to find someway he can fit into the line-up without being damaging to the team (I feel the Hawks & Crows games weren't a big deal because Lobbe was still recovering at the time and Ryder shouldered most of the load - now to play one of these two rucks as a forward is a waste of talent, however I don't like Ryder resting forward unless he does what he was recruited to do - i.e. kicking goals). I am strongly of the opinion that he was the reason our team struggled to score of the last 3 weeks 

Slashers

Quote from: powersuperkents on May 30, 2015, 11:50:28 PM
Quote from: Slashers on May 30, 2015, 11:24:56 PM
So what's you take on the 'Ryder OUT' scenario? Has he disrupted our balance?
Definitely, the small forwards & mids scored the goals this game and even Schulz could kick a bag. I think the problem with Ryder is he provide a desired target for the supply line. Now this wouldn't be a problem if he marked the ball, however that was not the case over the last month  :-\

Also, I can't stand when he gets the ball in play and looks for these useless handballs rather than backing himself in for a shot - today I was proud to see a lot of our mids & small forwards just going for it which was something I hadn't seen since the Hawthorn game. Ryder is too slow to contribute when the ball is in play, and he is diverting the supply from Wingard, Westhoff, & Schulz, who are all better markers. They really need to find someway he can fit into the line-up without being damaging to the team (I feel the Hawks & Crows games weren't a big deal because Lobbe was still recovering at the time and Ryder shouldered most of the load - now to play one of these two rucks as a forward is a waste of talent, however I don't like Ryder resting forward unless he does what he was recruited to do - i.e. kicking goals). I am strongly of the opinion that he was the reason our team struggled to score of the last 3 weeks
Play Westhoff as a permanent defender (Goddard style / rebounder) and have Ryder take his forward role? Lobbe sole ruck except for the odd rest??

PowerBug

Yes do that please Port. Picked Hoff in SuperCoach and he finally tonned up yesterday.

As for the match itself, it was a good win and maybe the players went on a spiritual journey (it is indigenous week after all) this week to relieve the nightmares that Brion the Lion was causing them ;D
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