EXV: Trade Confirmation

[Spite]

If my part of the trade was what stopped it then I can increase it by removing the rookie picks.

Keep in mind that we have traded Fyfe in the past for players like vlastuin and toumpas and other rookies to see them all stop development after a year. Vlastuin was the next big thing after his first year and now he has sucked.

Don't read into the hype, take it at face value.

Losing Hanners for two potential guns is a risk and it, as seen above, doesn't alwas pay off

[Spite]

Well, it looks like I need to explain myself.

Firstly, I looked at the four-team trade in the way of what each team gets and loses, all of which I think is fair (I might have lost a bit, but I didn't think it'd be enough to reject the trade) and not the whole trade.

I apologise to the people involved in the trade for not making it clear that you were part of a four-way trade, I thought I did, obviously I didn't.

I'm disappointed that the trade didn't make it through, these people all wanted Bonts and I wanted to be creative in giving everyone (expect one) something other than Bonts rather than one person getting Bonts and the other being disappointed because they didn't get him. Jetta is ok for a forward (although Bonts will be better in a couple of years) but Pav is way too old, JJK isn't much of a fantasy player, and Polec only averaged in the 70s for a mid. From a glance, it looks like you're being brutalised...

That said, as a rebuilding team, I would be ecstatic if I could trade for Bonts and/or Martin and now I'm upset I didn't get in on it.

It seems like that there is varying opinion on Bonts between myself and admins, I have never bought into the Bonts hype (to the point where I don't think his goal was that great, I think Eddie's was better and I'm a Port supporter!) whereas the admins think he's something special.

I'm almost at the point at the point of making him untradeable because of this and I really don't want to do that, I don't like letting people down.

I don't think it's so much that Bonts is untradeable but I see your part of the trade as "almost 19 years old, 70 average forward + potential future superstar in Jack Martin" for close to nothing. both of those players are very potential based, and therefore very tradeable for the right offer, but

I think that's the big issue too

Swedish Metal gets: Lewis Jetta + Rookie Pick 19 + Matthew Pavlich + Josh J. Kennedy + Jared Polec + Josh Bruce + Rookie Pick 13
Swedish Metal loses: Marcus Bontempelli + Tom T. Lynch + Adam Cooney + Jack Martin + Rookie Pick 7

if you call R7 to be worth R13+R19, Cooney to be worth Bruce + Jetta (and the excess of 13+19), then you're left with Martin + Lynch + Bontempelli for Kennedy, Polec and Pavlich. With Pav on his last legs, it's a pretty big lose out in age and talent.

The thing is, if he did 3 separate trades it would go through wouldn't it? Each trade at a little "loss" but at the end, the end results shows an accumulation of those "losses" so I find it interesting

[nrich102]

Lol I thought it was just me and atto as well, but I dot really care tbh.

Can we just go back to my original trade for Bonts??

[Ziplock]

Well, it looks like I need to explain myself.

Firstly, I looked at the four-team trade in the way of what each team gets and loses, all of which I think is fair (I might have lost a bit, but I didn't think it'd be enough to reject the trade) and not the whole trade.

I apologise to the people involved in the trade for not making it clear that you were part of a four-way trade, I thought I did, obviously I didn't.

I'm disappointed that the trade didn't make it through, these people all wanted Bonts and I wanted to be creative in giving everyone (expect one) something other than Bonts rather than one person getting Bonts and the other being disappointed because they didn't get him. Jetta is ok for a forward (although Bonts will be better in a couple of years) but Pav is way too old, JJK isn't much of a fantasy player, and Polec only averaged in the 70s for a mid. From a glance, it looks like you're being brutalised...

That said, as a rebuilding team, I would be ecstatic if I could trade for Bonts and/or Martin and now I'm upset I didn't get in on it.

It seems like that there is varying opinion on Bonts between myself and admins, I have never bought into the Bonts hype (to the point where I don't think his goal was that great, I think Eddie's was better and I'm a Port supporter!) whereas the admins think he's something special.

I'm almost at the point at the point of making him untradeable because of this and I really don't want to do that, I don't like letting people down.

I don't think it's so much that Bonts is untradeable but I see your part of the trade as "almost 19 years old, 70 average forward + potential future superstar in Jack Martin" for close to nothing. both of those players are very potential based, and therefore very tradeable for the right offer, but

I think that's the big issue too

Swedish Metal gets: Lewis Jetta + Rookie Pick 19 + Matthew Pavlich + Josh J. Kennedy + Jared Polec + Josh Bruce + Rookie Pick 13
Swedish Metal loses: Marcus Bontempelli + Tom T. Lynch + Adam Cooney + Jack Martin + Rookie Pick 7

if you call R7 to be worth R13+R19, Cooney to be worth Bruce + Jetta (and the excess of 13+19), then you're left with Martin + Lynch + Bontempelli for Kennedy, Polec and Pavlich. With Pav on his last legs, it's a pretty big lose out in age and talent.

The thing is, if he did 3 separate trades it would go through wouldn't it? Each trade at a little "loss" but at the end, the end results shows an accumulation of those "losses" so I find it interesting

Martin + Lynch + Bontempelli for Kennedy, Polec and Pavlich

that part wouldn't.

[Rids]

Credit when due! That trade must have taken a while to organise. And to think he also kept is reasonably hush hush that it was a 4 way trade ***stands and applauds!

[LF]

Those players are from 3 different teams and would be 3 separate trades involving those players so you can`t just throw the names out grouped together when they are not from the same team.

[Vinny]

If I was Atto, I wouldn't touch his forward line of: Fwd: Jack Riewoldt, Marcus Bontempelli, Tom T Lynch, Jack Martin.

[Hellopplz]

Credit when due! That trade must have taken a while to organise. And to think he also kept is reasonably hush hush that it was a 4 way trade ***stands and applauds!

Haha, I actually think it's tough to put together a 3-way deal yet alone a 4-way deal! Even more props to Atto for making it without any of the other teams knowing about it ;D.

Can never please everybody so think he just has to realise he doesn't need to please everybody else as they can always search elsewhere for a player!

[Vinny]

Can never please everybody so think he just has to realise he doesn't need to please everybody else as they can always search elsewhere for a player!

[Holz]

Swedish Metal gets: Lewis Jetta + Rookie Pick 19 + Matthew Pavlich + Josh J. Kennedy + Jared Polec + Josh Bruce + Rookie Pick 13
Swedish Metal loses: Marcus Bontempelli + Tom T. Lynch + Adam Cooney + Jack Martin + Rookie Pick 7

Sorry guys swamped at work, working 10 hours than having to come home and spend all night organising for my sisters birthday.

sent the quick reject this morning as no way this even comes close to passing.

while looking at the 3 other teams they are all wins but probably not big enough to be rejected, looking at Sweden they lose way way too much. It appears as the 3 other teams have won the trade and all those wins are compounded to a loss for Sweden.

will have to sort it out when i get some free time.

[Atto]

Metal trades: Robert Murphy + N53
Lions trades: Matt Shaw + R49

After further review, I have decided that I need to do the job Nails was doing, and that's to rebuild this team. Considering that I have very little solid young defenders and heaps of old ones, gaining young defenders is a priority and I believe Shaw is the right man for the job.

JBs or Memph to confirm.

[Memphistopheles]

Metal trades: Robert Murphy + N53
Lions trades: Matt Shaw + R49

After further review, I have decided that I need to do the job Nails was doing, and that's to rebuild this team. Considering that I have very little solid young defenders and heaps of old ones, gaining young defenders is a priority and I believe Shaw is the right man for the job.

JBs or Memph to confirm.

Confirm.

Murphy may only have a couple of seasons left but he's a premium scorer and will help us with a title challenge next season.

[Vinny]

Russia trades: P.Chapman + N38
Stallions trade: N.Kommer + M.Grigg

We wanted Chappy to further strengthen our chances at a flag and despite having one season left, he is a good scorer. Kommer and Grigg are too highly rated youngsters. Grigg was great when he was unsubbed in 2013 and a new coach should see greater opportunity. Nick Kommer who had a very handy 2013 unfortunately was injured in 2014 but with good pre-season should do wonders, very valuable to Essendon's game plan. Kommer was #1 for pressure acts in 2013. Russia gets two young blokes to help with their rebuild whilst I get a forward to help with my flag push. Kills me long-term a bit but gotta go all out considering I've gone older in defence already. Pick 38 evens it out nicely.

Trade was done in 2 PMs. Nost to confirm!

[nostradamus]

Russia trades: P.Chapman + N38
Stallions trade: N.Kommer + M.Grigg

We wanted Chappy to further strengthen our chances at a flag and despite having one season left, he is a good scorer. Kommer and Grigg are too highly rated youngsters. Grigg was great when he was unsubbed in 2013 and a new coach should see greater opportunity. Nick Kommer who had a very handy 2013 unfortunately was injured in 2014 but with good pre-season should do wonders, very valuable to Essendon's game plan. Kommer was #1 for pressure acts in 2013. Russia gets two young blokes to help with their rebuild whilst I get a forward to help with my flag push. Kills me long-term a bit but gotta go all out considering I've gone older in defence already. Pick 38 evens it out nicely.

Trade was done in 2 PMs. Nost to confirm!

confirmed  8) ......cheers Vinny, a very simple trade

[Rids]

Another trade by Russia today

Russia give: Stephen Hill + nat 20
Sweden give: Tom T Lynch + nat 25

Very even trade. Russia were after a forward older than our young guns in Cameron and Hogan to replace Chapman. Sweden were after a good scoring mid that was younger than 30. Nat pick upgrade albeit small levels the trade out.

Atto to confirm.