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Started by Holz, September 07, 2014, 07:20:44 PM

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Quote from: Holzman on September 08, 2014, 03:57:23 PM
Hungary Trade: Rookie 15
Croatia Trade: Beau Waters

reason: taking a risk here on Beau as fit he is a premo defender but thats rarely the case and he is one injury away from retiring i think, but with R15 i think its worth a punt as he has pretty big upside, even if its unlikely. Need help down back.

Confirmed

As much as i love Beau he is too injury prone and we have a starting 4 defenders without him anyway and can use rook pick 15 to help rebuild the team from the extensive list in the rook draft

Holz

Quote from: Vinny on September 08, 2014, 07:11:57 AM
First trade:

Stallions Give: M.Grigg + N42
Crushers Give: C.Rioli

LF to confirm.

Spain were in need of forwards and despite giving Mitch Grigg who has shown great talent when playing without the green vest, we have plenty of midfielders so didn't need him. Rioli brings another good starting forward to our side whilst Grigg helps the Crushers with their rebuild.

Rejected:

Felt Rioli was worth more than a fringe player with potential and a lowish pick.

Holz

Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 08, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
Storm give: Alex Fasolo, Brodie Grundy and Brendan Whitecross
Bashers give: Nathan Gordon, Chris Knights and Pick 56.

Need some forwards because it's our weakest line. Gordon should get DPP or become a forward and Knights is best 22 when fit. Not the biggest Fas fan, we've got three other playing rucks even with Grundy gone and with the acquisition of Brodie Smith, we don't need the injury prone WhiteX.

Ele/Ric/FARK to confirm.

Confirmed!

Grundy is a long long way off becoming fantasy relevant but hopefully once Pyke/Hmac retire he will be pumping the big scores. Fasolo adds some forward depth, very similar to Knights in that when he's fit he is best 22 and a reasonable scorer. We were willing to take the chance on WhiteX while the pick is far more valuable to Nigey as he rebuilds his lineup.

Thanks mate

Rejected:

WhiteX worth more than that pick that late as despite his injuries concerns has shown lots of potential. Fasolo somewhat fringe but young and Knights has had injury issues and isnt a lock 22 either. But the big one was Grundy has too much value as a young number 1 ruck.

Spite

Witts is the number 1 ruck atm. Too much uncertainty around whiteX after 2 knee recons. Nip seems a decent forward. Knights scores well but same issue as above with whiteX. Fas also not a certain starter. None are certain starters in my opinion...

elephants

Quote from: Holzman on September 08, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 08, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
Storm give: Alex Fasolo, Brodie Grundy and Brendan Whitecross
Bashers give: Nathan Gordon, Chris Knights and Pick 56.

Need some forwards because it's our weakest line. Gordon should get DPP or become a forward and Knights is best 22 when fit. Not the biggest Fas fan, we've got three other playing rucks even with Grundy gone and with the acquisition of Brodie Smith, we don't need the injury prone WhiteX.

Ele/Ric/FARK to confirm.

Confirmed!

Grundy is a long long way off becoming fantasy relevant but hopefully once Pyke/Hmac retire he will be pumping the big scores. Fasolo adds some forward depth, very similar to Knights in that when he's fit he is best 22 and a reasonable scorer. We were willing to take the chance on WhiteX while the pick is far more valuable to Nigey as he rebuilds his lineup.

Thanks mate

Rejected:

WhiteX worth more than that pick that late as despite his injuries concerns has shown lots of potential. Fasolo somewhat fringe but young and Knights has had injury issues and isnt a lock 22 either. But the big one was Grundy has too much value as a young number 1 ruck.


Injury concerns? Thats understating it. ACL and now hasn't played competitive football for nearing on two years. If he does get fit again he'll be spending much of next season at Box Hill, who would he replace in the Hawks side? We threw a late pick in for him because we felt like he's useless to Nige and his rebuilding side but he might still be in his prime when/if he finally gets back.

Ask any Richmond supporter, Knights is best 22.

Witts is Collingwood's #1 ruck, Grundy has been in and out of the side all season and when he is in he was copping vests. Sure he will improve but Witts isn't exactly going anywhere.




We need to start looking at numbers because everyone has their own opinion on players. I'm all for a hard-line approach but how we rate someone might be completely different to how someone else does.

Vinny

Hmmm can we appeal? Think Griggs unvested scoring potential was missed.

Do I PM you for that Holz?

Holz

Quote from: Vinny on September 08, 2014, 04:14:39 PM
Hmmm can we appeal? Think Griggs unvested scoring potential was missed.

Do I PM you for that Holz?

yeah best to PM

elephants


JBs-Hawks

Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 08, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 08, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
Storm give: Alex Fasolo, Brodie Grundy and Brendan Whitecross
Bashers give: Nathan Gordon, Chris Knights and Pick 56.

Need some forwards because it's our weakest line. Gordon should get DPP or become a forward and Knights is best 22 when fit. Not the biggest Fas fan, we've got three other playing rucks even with Grundy gone and with the acquisition of Brodie Smith, we don't need the injury prone WhiteX.

Ele/Ric/FARK to confirm.

Confirmed!

Grundy is a long long way off becoming fantasy relevant but hopefully once Pyke/Hmac retire he will be pumping the big scores. Fasolo adds some forward depth, very similar to Knights in that when he's fit he is best 22 and a reasonable scorer. We were willing to take the chance on WhiteX while the pick is far more valuable to Nigey as he rebuilds his lineup.

Thanks mate

Rejected:

WhiteX worth more than that pick that late as despite his injuries concerns has shown lots of potential. Fasolo somewhat fringe but young and Knights has had injury issues and isnt a lock 22 either. But the big one was Grundy has too much value as a young number 1 ruck.


Injury concerns? Thats understating it. ACL and now hasn't played competitive football for nearing on two years. If he does get fit again he'll be spending much of next season at Box Hill, who would he replace in the Hawks side? We threw a late pick in for him because we felt like he's useless to Nige and his rebuilding side but he might still be in his prime when/if he finally gets back.

Ask any Richmond supporter, Knights is best 22.

Witts is Collingwood's #1 ruck, Grundy has been in and out of the side all season and when he is in he was copping vests. Sure he will improve but Witts isn't exactly going anywhere.




We need to start looking at numbers because everyone has their own opinion on players. I'm all for a hard-line approach but how we rate someone might be completely different to how someone else does.

Whitecross was straight into the hawk team last season and played 10 odd games before going down again, and that is alot more footy then Knights has played ;) Best 22? 5 games in 2 years :P


elephants

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 08, 2014, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 08, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 08, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
Storm give: Alex Fasolo, Brodie Grundy and Brendan Whitecross
Bashers give: Nathan Gordon, Chris Knights and Pick 56.

Need some forwards because it's our weakest line. Gordon should get DPP or become a forward and Knights is best 22 when fit. Not the biggest Fas fan, we've got three other playing rucks even with Grundy gone and with the acquisition of Brodie Smith, we don't need the injury prone WhiteX.

Ele/Ric/FARK to confirm.

Confirmed!

Grundy is a long long way off becoming fantasy relevant but hopefully once Pyke/Hmac retire he will be pumping the big scores. Fasolo adds some forward depth, very similar to Knights in that when he's fit he is best 22 and a reasonable scorer. We were willing to take the chance on WhiteX while the pick is far more valuable to Nigey as he rebuilds his lineup.

Thanks mate

Rejected:

WhiteX worth more than that pick that late as despite his injuries concerns has shown lots of potential. Fasolo somewhat fringe but young and Knights has had injury issues and isnt a lock 22 either. But the big one was Grundy has too much value as a young number 1 ruck.


Injury concerns? Thats understating it. ACL and now hasn't played competitive football for nearing on two years. If he does get fit again he'll be spending much of next season at Box Hill, who would he replace in the Hawks side? We threw a late pick in for him because we felt like he's useless to Nige and his rebuilding side but he might still be in his prime when/if he finally gets back.

Ask any Richmond supporter, Knights is best 22.

Witts is Collingwood's #1 ruck, Grundy has been in and out of the side all season and when he is in he was copping vests. Sure he will improve but Witts isn't exactly going anywhere.




We need to start looking at numbers because everyone has their own opinion on players. I'm all for a hard-line approach but how we rate someone might be completely different to how someone else does.

Whitecross was straight into the hawk team last season and played 10 odd games before going down again, and that is alot more footy then Knights has played ;) Best 22? 5 games in 2 years :P

Last year... Thats before his second knee reco right? Moot point.

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 08, 2014, 04:26:27 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 04:14:12 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 08, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 08, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
Storm give: Alex Fasolo, Brodie Grundy and Brendan Whitecross
Bashers give: Nathan Gordon, Chris Knights and Pick 56.

Need some forwards because it's our weakest line. Gordon should get DPP or become a forward and Knights is best 22 when fit. Not the biggest Fas fan, we've got three other playing rucks even with Grundy gone and with the acquisition of Brodie Smith, we don't need the injury prone WhiteX.

Ele/Ric/FARK to confirm.

Confirmed!

Grundy is a long long way off becoming fantasy relevant but hopefully once Pyke/Hmac retire he will be pumping the big scores. Fasolo adds some forward depth, very similar to Knights in that when he's fit he is best 22 and a reasonable scorer. We were willing to take the chance on WhiteX while the pick is far more valuable to Nigey as he rebuilds his lineup.

Thanks mate

Rejected:

WhiteX worth more than that pick that late as despite his injuries concerns has shown lots of potential. Fasolo somewhat fringe but young and Knights has had injury issues and isnt a lock 22 either. But the big one was Grundy has too much value as a young number 1 ruck.


Injury concerns? Thats understating it. ACL and now hasn't played competitive football for nearing on two years. If he does get fit again he'll be spending much of next season at Box Hill, who would he replace in the Hawks side? We threw a late pick in for him because we felt like he's useless to Nige and his rebuilding side but he might still be in his prime when/if he finally gets back.

Ask any Richmond supporter, Knights is best 22.

Witts is Collingwood's #1 ruck, Grundy has been in and out of the side all season and when he is in he was copping vests. Sure he will improve but Witts isn't exactly going anywhere.




We need to start looking at numbers because everyone has their own opinion on players. I'm all for a hard-line approach but how we rate someone might be completely different to how someone else does.

Whitecross was straight into the hawk team last season and played 10 odd games before going down again, and that is alot more footy then Knights has played ;) Best 22? 5 games in 2 years :P

Last year... Thats before his second knee reco right? Moot point.

You said he hadnt played competitive footy in 2 years. And was put on ice instead of aiming for a comeback so he was 100% for next year.

elephants

Nearing on two years, do u even read m8?

Idc anyway, people obviously just scared of the Bashers trading to fill their needs.

Memphistopheles

Quote from: Holzman on September 08, 2014, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 08, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
Storm give: Alex Fasolo, Brodie Grundy and Brendan Whitecross
Bashers give: Nathan Gordon, Chris Knights and Pick 56.

Need some forwards because it's our weakest line. Gordon should get DPP or become a forward and Knights is best 22 when fit. Not the biggest Fas fan, we've got three other playing rucks even with Grundy gone and with the acquisition of Brodie Smith, we don't need the injury prone WhiteX.

Ele/Ric/FARK to confirm.

Confirmed!

Grundy is a long long way off becoming fantasy relevant but hopefully once Pyke/Hmac retire he will be pumping the big scores. Fasolo adds some forward depth, very similar to Knights in that when he's fit he is best 22 and a reasonable scorer. We were willing to take the chance on WhiteX while the pick is far more valuable to Nigey as he rebuilds his lineup.

Thanks mate

Rejected:

WhiteX worth more than that pick that late as despite his injuries concerns has shown lots of potential. Fasolo somewhat fringe but young and Knights has had injury issues and isnt a lock 22 either. But the big one was Grundy has too much value as a young number 1 ruck.


I agree with this ruling actually.

This would have been a massive, massive win for the Bashers if it went through.

Grundy as a potential #1 ruck for the Pies (he'll surpass Witts soon) is worth more than Knights and Gordon themselves imo.

Justin Bieber

Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 04:38:29 PM
Idc anyway, people obviously just scared of the Bashers trading to fill their needs.

I'll be scared if Bashers ever lived up to potential.... But that never happens :P.

Memphistopheles

Quote from: Hellopplz on September 08, 2014, 04:52:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 08, 2014, 04:38:29 PM
Idc anyway, people obviously just scared of the Bashers trading to fill their needs.

I'll be scared if Bashers ever lived up to potential.... But that never happens :P.

Fancy trading us one of your forwards mate? You seem to have a few spare :P