Ryder wants out of Bomberland

[Jroo]

Yes, putting the fact he wants out aside for a moment...
Someone like Hartlett I think is actually a very fair trade. Someone like Ryder holds a lot of currency. Only gotta look at the Darren Jolly deal (last ruck trade to come to mind). Ruckman are much harder to come by, and spend a lot of time and effort developing.

He's in his prime, will be for a good time still, perfect for Port's premiership chances. Great in the ruck, also great in the forward line so you can play him in a team with another ruckman no worries. Guys like Jacobs don't have that versatility, Sandi is obviously getting old, Mumford has terrible durability. How many other ruckman would you honestly rather grab right now if you could get anyone? Not many, NicNat the only standout.

Anyway, pick 17 is an absolute steal.

However, it's better than nothing.

Yeah, Hartlett for Ryder would definitely be a fair deal. But no chance Port will give him up.

I agree with you about Ryder, some people are under rating him, he's an elite ruckman and can also go forward with great effect.

[AFEV]

Ryder is the most valuable player at our club. Under normal circumstances, I would feel like Hartlett was unders. Great player, but Heppell and at a stretch Carlisle would be the only players holding currency close to Ryder at our entire club.

Not exactly normal circumstances though. :(

[Ziplock]

I think it's pretty fair.

Pick 17 won't get banned for peptides ;)

[AFEV]

Whispers now that Ryder will be released and allowed to leave as a FA, from which Essendon would likely receive pick 13 or 21, and then a separate trade with Port Adelaide including a fringe player from Essendon heading over in return for pick 17/18.

Benefits both clubs, but I don't like that the AFL just kind of made up/may make up this rule to mediate...

[kilbluff1985]

why would we get pick 13 ? it would be pick 21

[AFEV]

Some have suggested it would be 13 because that is our first round spot if it weren't for sanctions.

Either way, it's better than 35 or John Butcher.

[Toga]

"PORT Adelaide and Paddy Ryders management have moved to trigger a breach of contract clause against Essendon.

Ryder is set to demand the Bombers release him from his contract unless a deal can be struck in the coming days sending him to the Power."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/patrick-ryder-moves-to-trigger-breach-of-contract-clause-to-fasttrack-departure-from-essendon/story-e6frf3e3-1227084258054

[jobe#4]

Bombers tread lightly or you wont get anything!!!

[kilbluff1985]

[silloc]

Not a bad point

[Mailman the 2nd]

He said that Essendon told him it would be over in 6 months, which clearly they knew it wouldn't be

[Grazz]

I'd like to see the whole conversation to put the comment in context, could mean a couple of things.

[Ziplock]

He said that Essendon told him it would be over in 6 months, which clearly they knew it wouldn't be

Also means that if it was over in 6 months they would have been able to prove their innocence and therefore wouldn't have endangered him/ his child.

[Grazz]

He said that Essendon told him it would be over in 6 months, which clearly they knew it wouldn't be

Also means that if it was over in 6 months they would have been able to prove their innocence and therefore wouldn't have endangered him/ his child.

Was thinking along the same lines, if over in six it would be because there would be nothing in the saga.

[kilbluff1985]

He said that Essendon told him it would be over in 6 months, which clearly they knew it wouldn't be

Also means that if it was over in 6 months they would have been able to prove their innocence and therefore wouldn't have endangered him/ his child.

whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? why do we have to prove our innocence? it's hardly our fault it has taken so long if they had found concrete evidence it would be over