AXVS: OFFICIAL TRADE THREAD (2014/15)

Started by BB67th, September 02, 2014, 07:47:58 PM

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Nige

Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
Like who is McGovern? He's 22, played half a season and was mediocre at beast. Where's he been?
My problem is you seem to have no idea who half the players in the AFL are and yet you're a football fan and fantasy coach.

Get educated, do some research.

Ricochet

Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
Like who is McGovern? He's 22, played half a season and was mediocre at beast. Where's he been?
My problem is you seem to have no idea who half the players in the AFL are and yet you're a football fan and fantasy coach.

Get educated, do some research.
Well he's correct here mate. McGovern is only 2 years younger than Hibberd and only played half a season his whole career. Hibberd is a proven premo

Noz

Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM

Yeah why didn't Noz' Ellis trade not go to the committee? Oh the consistency.

It did go to the committee

Quote from: BB67th on September 29, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
Results are in from the Trade Committee.
TRADE #15: BLOCKED
Mongolia give: S.Johnson + H.Ballantyne + A.Young
Turkey give: B.Ellis + NAT Pick #38
Results: This trade was blocked 3-0. It was the view of the committee that Mongolia was giving up far too much in this trade, and while Ellis has potential to be a good scorer for many years, the value of Johnson and Ballantyne, as well as Young was too much to give up.

Justin Bieber

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Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
Like who is McGovern? He's 22, played half a season and was mediocre at beast. Where's he been?
My problem is you seem to have no idea who half the players in the AFL are and yet you're a football fan and fantasy coach.

Get educated, do some research.
Calm down Nige, I just don't understand why he took 4 years to make his debut and third or fourth tall at WCE atm.

Oh the logic, plays 2 comp has the top 3 teams in both comps.

#doesntknowtheplayers

#somehowdraftsstongteams

#logic

JBs-Hawks

Nigey just has a vendetta against premo defenders.

In worlds he traded Malceski for Rory Lobb ::)

Nige

Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Well he's correct here mate. McGovern is only 2 years younger than Hibberd and only played half a season his whole career. Hibberd is a proven premo
That's not my point though, you've completely overlooked what I'm saying.

Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:36:27 AM
Calm down Nige, I just don't understand why he took 4 years to make his debut and third or fourth tall at WCE atm.
He was on the rookie list for a couple of years and was overweight, had to slim down and develop a little. Can't suddenly become your team's No.1 tall instantly when you have guys like JJK in your way.

Now that he's made hi debut and been a revelation, he's best 22 thanks to his ability to be the perfect swingman.

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 23, 2014, 11:43:27 AM
Nigey just has a vendetta against premo defenders.

In worlds he traded Malceski for Rory Lobb ::)
Yeah, that's totally the reason.  ::)


Vlossy

Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
Like who is McGovern? He's 22, played half a season and was mediocre at beast. Where's he been?
My problem is you seem to have no idea who half the players in the AFL are and yet you're a football fan and fantasy coach.

Get educated, do some research.
Well he's correct here mate. McGovern is only 2 years younger than Hibberd and only played half a season his whole career. Hibberd is a proven premo




I like Hibberd and agree he is definitely a premium but let's not overstate it. The guy has only had 1 year with 20+ games and 2 years (2013 and 2014) with a decent premium average. In 2014 he also missed 6 games with hamstrings which has plagued his early part of his career. There is definite risk in this trade for us. Let's revisit in a year or 2 and see how it turns out.

McGovern is rated as one of the best young forwards in the game. Yes it has taken a couple of years in the system for the penny to drop but let's not undersell him. He is 2 years younger than Hibberd who had only played 22 games at the same age so 13 games is not as bad as it sounds.

Plenty of water to go under this bridge. While on paper Crabs appear the winners it might just be some very shrewd trading by Koops and Nige. I am a massive fan of McGovern and it doesn't sit easy with me we traded him in this comp.

Nige

Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:36:27 AM
Oh the logic, plays 2 comp has the top 3 teams in both comps.
Completely ignoring the fact that your Sons in Euros finished 13th out of 14 teams?

Laos...? 9th the new top 3?


Justin Bieber

Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:47:47 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:36:27 AM
Oh the logic, plays 2 comp has the top 3 teams in both comps.
Completely ignoring the fact that your Sons in Euros finished 13th out of 14 teams?

Laos...? 9th the new top 3?

Look at Laos for next year. I drafted a young team. 2 years in it's great. Just wait. If I got lucky I would of been top 4. Sons, I didn't draft so argument is stupid. Badgers are looking super next year gaining 2 prems for free.

Nige

Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
I like Hibberd and agree he is definitely a premium but let's not overstate it. The guy has only had 1 year with 20+ games and 2 years (2013 and 2014) with a decent premium average. In 2014 he also missed 6 games with hamstrings which has plagued his early part of his career. There is definite risk in this trade for us. Let's revisit in a year or 2 and see how it turns out.

McGovern is rated as one of the best young forwards in the game. Yes it has taken a couple of years in the system for the penny to drop but let's not undersell him. He is 2 years younger than Hibberd who had only played 22 games at the same age so 13 games is not as bad as it sounds.

Plenty of water to go under this bridge. While on paper Crabs appear the winners it might just be some very shrewd trading by Koops and Nige. I am a massive fan of McGovern and it doesn't sit easy with me we traded him in this comp.
Thanks mate, well said.

I agree on the Hibberd front, huge fan of him and I still wasn't completely sold on trading him either when Coop decided to pull the trigger.

Let's all just remember all the shower the Cotchin trade brought and how that worked out for Coop in the end.

Whelp, who am I kidding? Probably asking way too much of some of the people here.

Ricochet

Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
Like who is McGovern? He's 22, played half a season and was mediocre at beast. Where's he been?
My problem is you seem to have no idea who half the players in the AFL are and yet you're a football fan and fantasy coach.

Get educated, do some research.
Well he's correct here mate. McGovern is only 2 years younger than Hibberd and only played half a season his whole career. Hibberd is a proven premo




I like Hibberd and agree he is definitely a premium but let's not overstate it. The guy has only had 1 year with 20+ games and 2 years (2013 and 2014) with a decent premium average. In 2014 he also missed 6 games with hamstrings which has plagued his early part of his career. There is definite risk in this trade for us. Let's revisit in a year or 2 and see how it turns out.

McGovern is rated as one of the best young forwards in the game. Yes it has taken a couple of years in the system for the penny to drop but let's not undersell him. He is 2 years younger than Hibberd who had only played 22 games at the same age so 13 games is not as bad as it sounds.

Plenty of water to go under this bridge. While on paper Crabs appear the winners it might just be some very shrewd trading by Koops and Nige. I am a massive fan of McGovern and it doesn't sit easy with me we traded him in this comp.
Hibberd is THE most valuable defender in the comp man. And in a comp where defenders are the worst scoring line, it just makes him more valuable.

But thats beside the point. Decision has been made, can't do anything about it now.


I suggest we change the process a bit going forward though.
BB makes his decisions on trades as per normal. But if the 2 teams involved plus two more teams put forward concerns that the decision is wrong, then it get sent to the committee.

BB has been pretty spot on with his decisions so far.

Nige

Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
But thats beside the point. Decision has been made, can't do anything about it now.
Straight from the horse's mouth.

Move on.

Noz

If a bloke that has played 13 games and a number 13 draft pick is worth a proven premium defender in a comp where there are only half a dozen premium defenders then I would like to trade Arryn Sippos for a premium defender.

Any takers?

Sipposs at one stage was also rated one of the best young forwards in the game so snatch him up quickly.