AXVS: OFFICIAL TRADE THREAD (2014/15)

Started by BB67th, September 02, 2014, 07:47:58 PM

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Justin Bieber

Quote from: Noz on October 23, 2014, 11:57:14 AM
If a bloke that has played 13 games and a number 13 draft pick is worth a proven premium defender in a comp where there are only half a dozen premium defenders then I would like to trade Arryn Sippos for a premium defender.

Any takers?

Sipposs at one stage was also rated one of the best young forwards in the game so snatch him up quickly.

Take Michael plus pick 8 and Jordan Lewis. No that's not fair enough for you.

Vlossy

Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
Like who is McGovern? He's 22, played half a season and was mediocre at beast. Where's he been?
My problem is you seem to have no idea who half the players in the AFL are and yet you're a football fan and fantasy coach.

Get educated, do some research.
Well he's correct here mate. McGovern is only 2 years younger than Hibberd and only played half a season his whole career. Hibberd is a proven premo




I like Hibberd and agree he is definitely a premium but let's not overstate it. The guy has only had 1 year with 20+ games and 2 years (2013 and 2014) with a decent premium average. In 2014 he also missed 6 games with hamstrings which has plagued his early part of his career. There is definite risk in this trade for us. Let's revisit in a year or 2 and see how it turns out.

McGovern is rated as one of the best young forwards in the game. Yes it has taken a couple of years in the system for the penny to drop but let's not undersell him. He is 2 years younger than Hibberd who had only played 22 games at the same age so 13 games is not as bad as it sounds.

Plenty of water to go under this bridge. While on paper Crabs appear the winners it might just be some very shrewd trading by Koops and Nige. I am a massive fan of McGovern and it doesn't sit easy with me we traded him in this comp.
Hibberd is THE most valuable defender in the comp man. And in a comp where defenders are the worst scoring line, it just makes him more valuable.

But thats beside the point. Decision has been made, can't do anything about it now.


I suggest we change the process a bit going forward though.
BB makes his decisions on trades as per normal. But if the 2 teams involved plus two more teams put forward concerns that the decision is wrong, then it get sent to the committee.

BB has been pretty spot on with his decisions so far.



I respect your opinion of Hibberd but I dont share the same opinion. I am not sure he is the most valuable defender on our team as I have Kolodjashnij and Docherty ahead of him currently. Again, it is a difference of opinions so no right or wrong.

What I was attempting to do was put some perspective on the trade. There is a lot of one way commentary of how good Hibberd is (which is warranted) but not much how good McGovern could be.

All good here though. Happy to move on instead of beating the same dead horse over and over and over lol

elephants

Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
But thats beside the point. Decision has been made, can't do anything about it now.
Straight from the horse's mouth.

Move on.

OI, DON'T CALL RICO A HORSE YOU LEMON.

Ricochet

Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
But thats beside the point. Decision has been made, can't do anything about it now.
Straight from the horse's mouth.

Move on.
lol. I have. Or did you miss the bit where I suggested a way to improve the comp going forward....

Noz

Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:59:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
Like who is McGovern? He's 22, played half a season and was mediocre at beast. Where's he been?
My problem is you seem to have no idea who half the players in the AFL are and yet you're a football fan and fantasy coach.

Get educated, do some research.
Well he's correct here mate. McGovern is only 2 years younger than Hibberd and only played half a season his whole career. Hibberd is a proven premo




I like Hibberd and agree he is definitely a premium but let's not overstate it. The guy has only had 1 year with 20+ games and 2 years (2013 and 2014) with a decent premium average. In 2014 he also missed 6 games with hamstrings which has plagued his early part of his career. There is definite risk in this trade for us. Let's revisit in a year or 2 and see how it turns out.

McGovern is rated as one of the best young forwards in the game. Yes it has taken a couple of years in the system for the penny to drop but let's not undersell him. He is 2 years younger than Hibberd who had only played 22 games at the same age so 13 games is not as bad as it sounds.

Plenty of water to go under this bridge. While on paper Crabs appear the winners it might just be some very shrewd trading by Koops and Nige. I am a massive fan of McGovern and it doesn't sit easy with me we traded him in this comp.
Hibberd is THE most valuable defender in the comp man. And in a comp where defenders are the worst scoring line, it just makes him more valuable.

But thats beside the point. Decision has been made, can't do anything about it now.


I suggest we change the process a bit going forward though.
BB makes his decisions on trades as per normal. But if the 2 teams involved plus two more teams put forward concerns that the decision is wrong, then it get sent to the committee.

BB has been pretty spot on with his decisions so far.



I respect your opinion of Hibberd but I dont share the same opinion. I am not sure he is the most valuable defender on our team as I have Kolodjashnij and Docherty ahead of him currently. Again, it is a difference of opinions so no right or wrong.

What I was attempting to do was put some perspective on the trade. There is a lot of one way commentary of how good Hibberd is (which is warranted) but not much how good McGovern could be.

All good here though. Happy to move on instead of beating the same dead horse over and over and over lol

You have Kolo and Docherty ahead of Hibbered? Wut

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:52:07 AM
Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
I like Hibberd and agree he is definitely a premium but let's not overstate it. The guy has only had 1 year with 20+ games and 2 years (2013 and 2014) with a decent premium average. In 2014 he also missed 6 games with hamstrings which has plagued his early part of his career. There is definite risk in this trade for us. Let's revisit in a year or 2 and see how it turns out.

McGovern is rated as one of the best young forwards in the game. Yes it has taken a couple of years in the system for the penny to drop but let's not undersell him. He is 2 years younger than Hibberd who had only played 22 games at the same age so 13 games is not as bad as it sounds.

Plenty of water to go under this bridge. While on paper Crabs appear the winners it might just be some very shrewd trading by Koops and Nige. I am a massive fan of McGovern and it doesn't sit easy with me we traded him in this comp.
Thanks mate, well said.

I agree on the Hibberd front, huge fan of him and I still wasn't completely sold on trading him either when Coop decided to pull the trigger.

Let's all just remember all the shower the Cotchin trade brought and how that worked out for Coop in the end.

Whelp, who am I kidding? Probably asking way too much of some of the people here.

Yea lets re visit the cotchin trade. Gave away cotch a captain option not sure on his average in SB. Id imagine around 130-140?

For polec a 90s avg mid that wouldnt get a game in any good team  in axv and lumumba who will probably lose def status

Vlossy

Quote from: Noz on October 23, 2014, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:59:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
Like who is McGovern? He's 22, played half a season and was mediocre at beast. Where's he been?
My problem is you seem to have no idea who half the players in the AFL are and yet you're a football fan and fantasy coach.

Get educated, do some research.
Well he's correct here mate. McGovern is only 2 years younger than Hibberd and only played half a season his whole career. Hibberd is a proven premo




I like Hibberd and agree he is definitely a premium but let's not overstate it. The guy has only had 1 year with 20+ games and 2 years (2013 and 2014) with a decent premium average. In 2014 he also missed 6 games with hamstrings which has plagued his early part of his career. There is definite risk in this trade for us. Let's revisit in a year or 2 and see how it turns out.

McGovern is rated as one of the best young forwards in the game. Yes it has taken a couple of years in the system for the penny to drop but let's not undersell him. He is 2 years younger than Hibberd who had only played 22 games at the same age so 13 games is not as bad as it sounds.

Plenty of water to go under this bridge. While on paper Crabs appear the winners it might just be some very shrewd trading by Koops and Nige. I am a massive fan of McGovern and it doesn't sit easy with me we traded him in this comp.
Hibberd is THE most valuable defender in the comp man. And in a comp where defenders are the worst scoring line, it just makes him more valuable.

But thats beside the point. Decision has been made, can't do anything about it now.


I suggest we change the process a bit going forward though.
BB makes his decisions on trades as per normal. But if the 2 teams involved plus two more teams put forward concerns that the decision is wrong, then it get sent to the committee.

BB has been pretty spot on with his decisions so far.



I respect your opinion of Hibberd but I dont share the same opinion. I am not sure he is the most valuable defender on our team as I have Kolodjashnij and Docherty ahead of him currently. Again, it is a difference of opinions so no right or wrong.

What I was attempting to do was put some perspective on the trade. There is a lot of one way commentary of how good Hibberd is (which is warranted) but not much how good McGovern could be.

All good here though. Happy to move on instead of beating the same dead horse over and over and over lol

You have Kolo and Docherty ahead of Hibbered? Wut



Yeah I do due to age and ceiling but everyone's opinions and thought processes aren't the same.

Justin Bieber

Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: Noz on October 23, 2014, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:59:43 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:53:37 AM
Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 23, 2014, 11:35:46 AM
Quote from: Nige on October 23, 2014, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 11:29:41 AM
Like who is McGovern? He's 22, played half a season and was mediocre at beast. Where's he been?
My problem is you seem to have no idea who half the players in the AFL are and yet you're a football fan and fantasy coach.

Get educated, do some research.
Well he's correct here mate. McGovern is only 2 years younger than Hibberd and only played half a season his whole career. Hibberd is a proven premo




I like Hibberd and agree he is definitely a premium but let's not overstate it. The guy has only had 1 year with 20+ games and 2 years (2013 and 2014) with a decent premium average. In 2014 he also missed 6 games with hamstrings which has plagued his early part of his career. There is definite risk in this trade for us. Let's revisit in a year or 2 and see how it turns out.

McGovern is rated as one of the best young forwards in the game. Yes it has taken a couple of years in the system for the penny to drop but let's not undersell him. He is 2 years younger than Hibberd who had only played 22 games at the same age so 13 games is not as bad as it sounds.

Plenty of water to go under this bridge. While on paper Crabs appear the winners it might just be some very shrewd trading by Koops and Nige. I am a massive fan of McGovern and it doesn't sit easy with me we traded him in this comp.
Hibberd is THE most valuable defender in the comp man. And in a comp where defenders are the worst scoring line, it just makes him more valuable.

But thats beside the point. Decision has been made, can't do anything about it now.


I suggest we change the process a bit going forward though.
BB makes his decisions on trades as per normal. But if the 2 teams involved plus two more teams put forward concerns that the decision is wrong, then it get sent to the committee.

BB has been pretty spot on with his decisions so far.



I respect your opinion of Hibberd but I dont share the same opinion. I am not sure he is the most valuable defender on our team as I have Kolodjashnij and Docherty ahead of him currently. Again, it is a difference of opinions so no right or wrong.

What I was attempting to do was put some perspective on the trade. There is a lot of one way commentary of how good Hibberd is (which is warranted) but not much how good McGovern could be.

All good here though. Happy to move on instead of beating the same dead horse over and over and over lol

You have Kolo and Docherty ahead of Hibbered? Wut



Yeah I do due to age and ceiling but everyone's opinions and thought processes aren't the same.

Can I ask, but who are you? One forum post?

Justin Bieber

Cotch trade was still one sided in hindsight. Lumamba died and Polec wasnt making your seniors.

Vlossy

I am Rids from last year.

Left fanfooty last year as I stopped playing 95% of fantasy games but came back to help Nostra in this trade period. Change of job roles and personal life getting in the way. I only post on here and EXV as they are the only comps Nostra is associated with.

Justin Bieber

Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 12:13:25 PM
I am Rids from last year.

Left fanfooty last year as I stopped playing 95% of fantasy games but came back to help Nostra in this trade period. Change of job roles and personal life getting in the way. I only post on here and EXV as they are the only comps Nostra is associated with.

Jroo called it. Good to see you back. Now I know for sure who you're instead of a random.

Vlossy

Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: Vlossy on October 23, 2014, 12:13:25 PM
I am Rids from last year.

Left fanfooty last year as I stopped playing 95% of fantasy games but came back to help Nostra in this trade period. Change of job roles and personal life getting in the way. I only post on here and EXV as they are the only comps Nostra is associated with.

Jroo called it. Good to see you back. Now I know for sure who you're instead of a random.



I won't be back for long. As I mentioned, I am back helping Nostra with the trade period. Work is pretty hectic so can't spend too much time here talking with you lot  ::)

Justin Bieber

Back on our complaining. Nah flower, just let it go through. I don't care about the eskimoes. I enjoy bye rounds :) and stronger competition is good for the Elephants :)

Vlossy

Quote from: whatlez on October 23, 2014, 12:26:52 PM
Back on our complaining. Nah flower, just let it go through. I don't care about the eskimoes. I enjoy bye rounds :) and stronger competition is good for the Elephants :)




Maybe you can use this sort of thing as a profile for a dating service.....

Hi there. My name is Lez. I enjoy bye rounds, the more the merrier! I also enjoy strong competition so feel free for MANY ladies to message me. Just as long as you are NOT an Eskimo though as I really don't care about Eskimoes. They always like being on the bottom (sorry just trying to get a rise out of ya - see what I did there???).

If you enjoy continual complaining and fantasy football forums (and have a spare keyboard - I don't like sharing) then I am the man for you!  8)


Noz

In most countries the word Eskimo is offensive please change your name to Inuits.

I feel offended