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2014 All Australian Team

Started by Ricochet, September 02, 2014, 05:15:23 PM

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Noz

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 18, 2014, 05:56:40 PM
Quote from: Noz on September 18, 2014, 02:34:36 PM
Quote from: noto07 on September 18, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: Noz on September 18, 2014, 11:28:56 AM
Quote from: noto07 on September 18, 2014, 11:13:19 AM
How can the best defender in the comp in Eric Mckenzie, not be in the best 6 in the all Australia. Makes 0 sense.

When you let your opponent kick 39 goals on you it doesn't go well.

1.5 goals a game, playing on the best forward in the team every week, got more right to be in the team than that Boak....

Your best key defender is meant to stop the best key forward not get 39 goals kicked on you there would be 5-6 key defenders who did better at stopping their opponent.

Zac Dawson for example let through under 30

lol are you actually trying to compare Zac Dawson to Eric Mckenzie by saying they play on the same players?

Zac has brought his team to 4 grand finals and every time they have made the grand final he has been apart of the best defensive side of the year.


Ricochet

Quote from: Noz on September 19, 2014, 01:14:48 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 18, 2014, 05:56:40 PM
Quote from: Noz on September 18, 2014, 02:34:36 PM
Quote from: noto07 on September 18, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: Noz on September 18, 2014, 11:28:56 AM
Quote from: noto07 on September 18, 2014, 11:13:19 AM
How can the best defender in the comp in Eric Mckenzie, not be in the best 6 in the all Australia. Makes 0 sense.

When you let your opponent kick 39 goals on you it doesn't go well.

1.5 goals a game, playing on the best forward in the team every week, got more right to be in the team than that Boak....

Your best key defender is meant to stop the best key forward not get 39 goals kicked on you there would be 5-6 key defenders who did better at stopping their opponent.

Zac Dawson for example let through under 30

lol are you actually trying to compare Zac Dawson to Eric Mckenzie by saying they play on the same players?

Zac has brought his team to 4 grand finals and every time they have made the grand final he has been apart of the best defensive side of the year.
Finally, someone outside the club sees his value

RaisyDaisy

Zac does a modest job, but everyone knows how much he relies on his team mates.

There is not a single defender in the comp who relies on their team mates as much as Zac does

Besides sticking to his man (which he does well) he is pretty much useless in every other aspect of the game, but that's OK for him because he does his role well and has the support of his team mates

Just don't let him kick the ball! :P




Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: Noz on September 19, 2014, 01:14:48 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on September 18, 2014, 05:56:40 PM
Quote from: Noz on September 18, 2014, 02:34:36 PM
Quote from: noto07 on September 18, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: Noz on September 18, 2014, 11:28:56 AM
Quote from: noto07 on September 18, 2014, 11:13:19 AM
How can the best defender in the comp in Eric Mckenzie, not be in the best 6 in the all Australia. Makes 0 sense.

When you let your opponent kick 39 goals on you it doesn't go well.

1.5 goals a game, playing on the best forward in the team every week, got more right to be in the team than that Boak....

Your best key defender is meant to stop the best key forward not get 39 goals kicked on you there would be 5-6 key defenders who did better at stopping their opponent.

Zac Dawson for example let through under 30

lol are you actually trying to compare Zac Dawson to Eric Mckenzie by saying they play on the same players?

Zac has brought his team to 4 grand finals and every time they have made the grand final he has been apart of the best defensive side of the year.

That's like saying between 2005-2012 LRT was clearly the best defender in the league, because he brought his team to 3 grand finals, won 2 and every time they have made the grand final he has been apart of the best defensive side of the year.

You're clearly not even trying to disguise the fact you're picking random stats that aren't even relevant, so i don't know why I'm bothering. Zac Dawson is a bit player at best, nothing more. He came to Fremantle when they already had 2 All Australian defenders. He didn't need to do anything.

Eric Mckenzie is a guy who is worth 20 Dawsons

Ricochet

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2014, 08:21:38 AM
Zac does a modest job, but everyone knows how much he relies on his team mates.

There is not a single defender in the comp who relies on their team mates as much as Zac does

Besides sticking to his man (which he does well) he is pretty much useless in every other aspect of the game, but that's OK for him because he does his role well and has the support of his team mates

Just don't let him kick the ball! :P
He goes at 84% DE

Justin Bieber

Quote from: Ricochet on September 19, 2014, 09:34:04 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2014, 08:21:38 AM
Zac does a modest job, but everyone knows how much he relies on his team mates.

There is not a single defender in the comp who relies on their team mates as much as Zac does

Besides sticking to his man (which he does well) he is pretty much useless in every other aspect of the game, but that's OK for him because he does his role well and has the support of his team mates

Just don't let him kick the ball! :P
He goes at 84% DE

That's a poor comment Raisy. Zac is a better player than Manu defenders, he just doesnt get the credit lol

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Ricochet on September 19, 2014, 09:34:04 AM
He goes at 84% DE

Pretty easy to go at 84% when all you have is 4 handballs for a match :P

Ricochet

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on September 19, 2014, 11:07:23 AM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 19, 2014, 09:34:04 AM
He goes at 84% DE

Pretty easy to go at 84% when all you have is 4 handballs for a match :P
Mackenzie goes at 83% so therefore ZDawson >>>>>>> Mackenzie ;)
#logic :P

Jukes

Daws is a flowering super defender, most underrated player in the comp. He's a big reason Freo are up there atm. Doesn't let any big FF give him any shower and it helps the team a lot. Deserves to be AA sometime.

Totally unbias, it's not like he's in my facebook dp or anything :3

Mackenzie is good, he's no Dawson though, wasn't better than Hooksy, Rance, Talia or Smith for 2014 but he's only 26 (albeit the oldest of them five :3) and will probably get in in the future if he lifts his game a bit or the eagles win an extra game or two.

My Chumps

Dawson proved how much a liability he can be in last years Grand Final.

I agree that he cops some unfair criticism but at the same time, when he has a bagged kicked on him it's not surprising.

Mailman the 2nd

Dawson is so underrated he's overrated

Noz

Dawson relies on his teammates? Well yeah it's a team sport.

Dawson is a massive part of their defense he gets given a job each week and he does it. His never going to take on the opposition best forward normally takes the 2nd/3rd tall. He done his job perfect last week Schulz was barley sighted.

Capper

Parker tonight showed that he should have been in the AA team

Ringo

100% agree Tabs - Nice way to answer.

Master Q

Quote from: tabs on September 20, 2014, 01:06:26 AM
Parker tonight showed that he should have been in the AA team
I had the exact same thoughts as soon as the game finished.