Off Season Trade Rumours

[tbagrocks]

Not having a go at you at all because you're a Hawk Craigy. But on a similar line, how then was the Premier allowed to sign a bottom club's best defender and pay absolutely nothing to get him?

You need to think of it as a three way deal. Franklin to Sydney, Frawley to Hawthorn, Melbourne get Pick 2.

Yes yes, Im down with this theory as far as the salary cap is concerned, I get it

Doesn't mean I agree with it, but I understand it

This is when what Walshy said Tuesday, you don't have success when a players wants 1.2 mil a year. Paddy either wants team success or he simply is traded away! Boom! There it is in a nutshell, Hey Buddy?

[Mr.Craig]

Not having a go at you at all because you're a Hawk Craigy. But on a similar line, how then was the Premier allowed to sign a bottom club's best defender and pay absolutely nothing to get him?

You need to think of it as a three way deal. Franklin to Sydney, Frawley to Hawthorn, Melbourne get Pick 2.

Yes yes, Im down with this theory as far as the salary cap is concerned, I get it

Doesn't mean I agree with it, but I understand it

This is when what Walshy said Tuesday, you don't have success when a players wants 1.2 mil a year. Paddy either wants team success or he simply is traded away! Boom! There it is in a nutshell, Hey Buddy?

Just to add to what I wrote, there was the ripple effect from Buddy too which saw Mumford and White forced out. Sure White went to a top 8 (at the time) team but Mummy went to GWS so there's an example of a lesser team benefiting from free agency in a roundabout way.

[Noz]

This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.

[Mr.Craig]

This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.

Are you saying that certain players are being paid way more than they're worth and it's become a kind of retarded arms race that will end up sinking some clubs? Because you'd be right.

[Noz]

This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.

Are you saying that certain players are being paid way more than they're worth and it's become a kind of retarded arms race that will end up sinking some clubs? Because you'd be right.

No im saying that ever since Scully left thats the thing that tipped this entire system over the edge and why AFL introduced free agency.

Now most of the out of contract players want to get paid overs because if a bloke who had of played 31 games worth millions of dollars why isn't everyone .

If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

If you an established club like a Hawthorn or Sydney or even Fremantle why would you waste your time putting 3-4 years into a kid letting him develop when each year you can just go to a lower tier club and steal one of their guns giving up nothing in return and continue your premiership hunt.

[Nige]

This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.

Are you saying that certain players are being paid way more than they're worth and it's become a kind of retarded arms race that will end up sinking some clubs? Because you'd be right.

[Mailman the 2nd]

If you an established club like a Hawthorn or Sydney or even Fremantle why would you waste your time putting 3-4 years into a kid letting him develop when each year you can just go to a lower tier club and steal one of their guns giving up nothing in return and continue your premiership hunt.

Lucky for you Noz the AFL already took care of that

[Noz]

This should be a new rule

Any club who finishes inside the top 4 can not partake in Free agency unless a player leaves then they can add someone. No Compensation regardless

Any club who finishes in the bottom half of the 8 can only add 1 restricted player to the club

Any club who finishes outside the top 8 can add as many free agents as they want Compensation as normal

[Big Mac]

This should be a new rule

Any club who finishes inside the top 4 can not partake in Free agency unless a player leaves then they can add someone. No Compensation regardless

Any club who finishes in the bottom half of the 8 can only add 1 restricted player to the club

Any club who finishes outside the top 8 can add as many free agents as they want Compensation as normal

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-31/hardwicks-nfl-solution

I posted this a while back.

[Nails]

This all started when the muppets over in GWS offered Tom Scully that multi million deal.

Are you saying that certain players are being paid way more than they're worth and it's become a kind of retarded arms race that will end up sinking some clubs? Because you'd be right.

No im saying that ever since Scully left thats the thing that tipped this entire system over the edge and why AFL introduced free agency.

Now most of the out of contract players want to get paid overs because if a bloke who had of played 31 games worth millions of dollars why isn't everyone .

If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

If you an established club like a Hawthorn or Sydney or even Fremantle why would you waste your time putting 3-4 years into a kid letting him develop when each year you can just go to a lower tier club and steal one of their guns giving up nothing in return and continue your premiership hunt.

Except those clubs are full of good kids?  :-X

[Noz]

This should be a new rule

Any club who finishes inside the top 4 can not partake in Free agency unless a player leaves then they can add someone. No Compensation regardless

Any club who finishes in the bottom half of the 8 can only add 1 restricted player to the club

Any club who finishes outside the top 8 can add as many free agents as they want Compensation as normal

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-07-31/hardwicks-nfl-solution

I posted this a while back.

Yeah I remember reading that somewhere but couldn't remember where.

[KoopKicka]

lol what the hell is going on

[tbagrocks]

Have a look at us ........

Wonderful legacy that idiot Dumbetriou left behind for us fans isn't it ::)

[Mr.Craig]

If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

It's funny you should mention the Bulldogs the day that it comes to light Griffen has issues with the club and wants to leave. If clubs create an environment where players are thriving then they will have far less desire to take the money and run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of Hawthorn's best 25 could be on more money at a different club. Instead of shedding tears over free agency, bottom 8 teams should be expending effort on building better workplaces.

[Big Mac]

If free agency continues to play out like this then clubs like Western Bulldogs will always be down the bottom because as soon as someone good comes then a richer club just plucks them away and the process starts all over again.

It's funny you should mention the Bulldogs the day that it comes to light Griffen has issues with the club and wants to leave. If clubs create an environment where players are thriving then they will have far less desire to take the money and run.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of Hawthorn's best 25 could be on more money at a different club. Instead of shedding tears over free agency, bottom 8 teams should be expending effort on building better workplaces.

How do you suppose teams do this? Melbourne has possibly the best CEO/Coaching duo in the competition (even managed a profit this year somehow) but Frawley still 'took the money and ran'