Off Season Trade Rumours

[Bill Manspeaker]

god dammit Lachie

[Money Shot]

god dammit Lachie

Big loss for the dockers. I would be playing hard ball with him.

[GoLions]

god dammit Lachie

Big loss for the dockers. I would be playing hard ball with him.

Even bigger loss for the Sainters imho

[Money Shot]

god dammit Lachie

Big loss for the dockers. I would be playing hard ball with him.

Even bigger loss for the Sainters imho

Yeah good point!

[kilbluff1985]

smh thought u meant Neale

[Ricochet]

 :'(

[Gigantor]

Weller for Matera and a pick?

[Holz]

Bearing in mind that I'm not familiar with the compensation rules of free agency, why did Geelong receive a first-rounder for Motlop?

Is it based purely on economic measures (accepted contract v. opportunity cost) or player value to the footy club?

Apparently it depends on what % tier that player will sit in, compared to the salaries of every other player in the comp. If you sit in the top 5% (or something like that), then the compensation will be a first round pick. Then whatever the next tier is (presumably top 10-15%) will get you end of first round compo. And then maybe like top 20% gets you 2nd round compo.

I dunno the exact numbers, but it's based around that.

its a complete joke.

The worst bit is its the pick after your 1st rounder though.

So if Lions traded a guy who barely is a top 5% in the salary they basically receive pick 2. Then if Richmond lost Dustin Martin they would only get pick 19.

it basically entices the weak teams to let go of established players making them even weaker. Then if a great team loses a superstar they get well below market value.

It's in part an equalisation strategy. Based on ladder positions, Richmond would be better equipped to lose Dustin Martin, than say Melbourne would be with James Frawley (at the time).

I personally have no issue with basing compensation based off ladder positions, I just have issue with how the compensation tier is worked out.

Shouldn't it be based on the quality of the player you lost.

Lets put this up as an example.

Say Bont walked away from the Dogs last year and because they won the flag they would get pick 19.

Would they be in much better shape then say Carlton getting pick 4 for losing gibbs.

The other thing is isn't it highly unfair to other struggling teams? in the above example if gibbs walked away then North move down from 4 to 5. Given their is a big 4 they lose out hard even though they clearly are in much more trouble.

basically you shouldn't be able to benefit from a guy walkin away. In the above example carlton actually probably benefit as not sure they would get pick 4 for gibbs. Dogs get absolutely screwed.

[valkorum]

Weller for Matera and a pick?

A big fat NO (Unless that was pick 2)

[fanTCfool]

Weller for Matera and a pick?

A big fat NO (Unless that was pick 2)

This is Lachie Weller not Lachie Neale, Matera and a pick is a decent offer for a guy who wants to leave.

[valkorum]

This is Lachie Weller not Lachie Neale, Matera and a pick is a decent offer for a guy who wants to leave.

Lachie Neale would be a GIANT no - no deal ever

Lachie Weller has increased his disposals by 5 every year (2015 - 10, 2016 - 15, 2017 - 20).  He is extremely fast, he is still only 21 and has played 47 games.  He is worth a lot more than Matera and a pick

Considering we also just offered him a 4 year contract extension.

[fanTCfool]

This is Lachie Weller not Lachie Neale, Matera and a pick is a decent offer for a guy who wants to leave.

Lachie Neale would be a GIANT no - no deal ever

Lachie Weller has increased his disposals by 5 every year (2015 - 10, 2016 - 15, 2017 - 20).  He is extremely fast, he is still only 21 and has played 47 games.  He is worth a lot more than Matera and a pick

Considering we also just offered him a 4 year contract extension.

Players are always worth more in the eyes of fans of that team, but in the real world, you'll probably get a half-decent pick upgrade in a straight swap for Matera.

[Money Shot]

Weller and pick 5 for picks 2 and 21

21 then used to get Wilson

Is what I would be thinking.

[valkorum]

Ricky Nixon saying the following on his facebook live thingo

Weller to GC.
5 to Dees.
Hogan to Freo
GC work out the rest with Dees. Probably 2x20 picks.

[valkorum]

Ricky Nixon also saying that Richmond and Freo have spoken about a straight swap of Conca for Balic.