Off Season Trade Rumours

[Jroo]

Jack Redden 1 year younger than Beams.

Wouldn't do it. Redden showed what he can do which was just as good as beams in Redden's 2nd half of the season

Redden for Beams or flower off Pies imo.

C'mon Nails, Beams is way better than Redden.

"way better" might be exaggerating

24 years old and and a Premiership Player, All Australian, club Fairest and Best and for the past 4 seasons has averaged 28 possies and 1.2 goals a game.

compared to Redden who is the same age this year with none of those accolades above and for the past 4 seasons averaging 23.6 possies and 0.5 goals a game.

Redden still a very good player but Beams is on another level

Yeah exactly, he's right up there with Fyfe, Danger, Cotch and co. He's probably shown more than all of them (well maybe apart from Fyfe), to this stage of his career.
Redden isn't on that level.

[kilbluff1985]

still think pick 5 would be overs Redden + 25 then maybe

[Ringo]

For the life of me can not see why the Pies would not accept Pick 5 and Lester.

Reddan is one year younger than Beams and imo

Career Season Averages Reddan
   
Year    Team    Games    Kicks    Handballs    Disposals    Marks    Goals    Behinds    Tackles    Hitouts    Frees For    Frees Ag.    Brownlow
2014    Brisbane    14    13.4    10.4    23.9    5.1    0.4    0.3    7.0    1.5    1.4    1.5    0.36
2013    Brisbane    22    11.2    10.7    21.9    4.0    0.4    0.3    6.7    1.1    1.4    1.4    0.05
2012    Brisbane    22    12.0    13.0    25.0    4.9    0.5    0.1    6.4    0.5    1.6    1.5    0.27
2011    Brisbane    22    12.9    11.0    23.9    5.4    0.6    0.2    7.6    0.6    1.3    1.3    0.05
2010    Brisbane    22    8.7    8.8    17.5    5.2    0.2    0.5    5.2    0    1.0    1.1    
2009    Brisbane    10    7.4    6.4    13.8    3.7    0.6    0.4    3.5    0    0.4    0.8    
Career       112    11.1    10.4    21.5    4.8    0.4    0.3    6.3    0.6    1.2    1.3    0.12

Career Season Averages Beams
Year    Team    Games    Kicks    Handballs    Disposals    Marks    Goals    Behinds    Tackles    Hitouts    Frees For    Frees Ag.    Brownlow
2014    Collingwood    19    14.6    12.5    27.2    3.6    1.2    0.8    5.3    0    1.1    0.8    0.84
2013    Collingwood    8    13.6    14.9    28.5    4.6    0.8    0.4    3.9    0    1.9    0.9    0.14
2012    Collingwood    24    15.8    15.0    30.9    4.5    1.2    0.7    4.2    0    1.0    0.4    0.90
2011    Collingwood    16    11.8    11.1    22.8    5.1    1.3    0.6    3.6    0    0.8    0.5    0.07
2010    Collingwood    25    10.2    10.2    20.4    4.3    1.0    1.3    3.0    0    0.6    0.5    0.10
2009    Collingwood    18    7.9    9.7    17.7    4.7    0.8    0.6    2.3    0.1    0.8    0.4    0.31
Career       110    12.3    12.0    24.3    4.4    1.1    0.8    3.7    0    0.9    0.5    0.45
   
So try telling me the difference between the two is worth pick 5 You are dreaming.

Do not mind throwing in pick 25 but pick 5 and Reddan dreaming.

[Ricochet]

They're the same age Ringo, both born in 1990 and both drafted in 2008...

[WCarey18]

Do not mind throwing in pick 25 but pick 5 and Reddan dreaming.

Agree that Pick 5 + Redden for Beams is a bit much, but Ringo, as a Lions supporter would you be happy with

Pick 5 + Pick 25 + Redden FOR Beams and Christensen?

[Jroo]

For the life of me can not see why the Pies would not accept Pick 5 and Lester.

Reddan is one year younger than Beams and imo

Career Season Averages Reddan
   
Year    Team    Games    Kicks    Handballs    Disposals    Marks    Goals    Behinds    Tackles    Hitouts    Frees For    Frees Ag.    Brownlow
2014    Brisbane    14    13.4    10.4    23.9    5.1    0.4    0.3    7.0    1.5    1.4    1.5    0.36
2013    Brisbane    22    11.2    10.7    21.9    4.0    0.4    0.3    6.7    1.1    1.4    1.4    0.05
2012    Brisbane    22    12.0    13.0    25.0    4.9    0.5    0.1    6.4    0.5    1.6    1.5    0.27
2011    Brisbane    22    12.9    11.0    23.9    5.4    0.6    0.2    7.6    0.6    1.3    1.3    0.05
2010    Brisbane    22    8.7    8.8    17.5    5.2    0.2    0.5    5.2    0    1.0    1.1    
2009    Brisbane    10    7.4    6.4    13.8    3.7    0.6    0.4    3.5    0    0.4    0.8    
Career       112    11.1    10.4    21.5    4.8    0.4    0.3    6.3    0.6    1.2    1.3    0.12

Career Season Averages Beams
Year    Team    Games    Kicks    Handballs    Disposals    Marks    Goals    Behinds    Tackles    Hitouts    Frees For    Frees Ag.    Brownlow
2014    Collingwood    19    14.6    12.5    27.2    3.6    1.2    0.8    5.3    0    1.1    0.8    0.84
2013    Collingwood    8    13.6    14.9    28.5    4.6    0.8    0.4    3.9    0    1.9    0.9    0.14
2012    Collingwood    24    15.8    15.0    30.9    4.5    1.2    0.7    4.2    0    1.0    0.4    0.90
2011    Collingwood    16    11.8    11.1    22.8    5.1    1.3    0.6    3.6    0    0.8    0.5    0.07
2010    Collingwood    25    10.2    10.2    20.4    4.3    1.0    1.3    3.0    0    0.6    0.5    0.10
2009    Collingwood    18    7.9    9.7    17.7    4.7    0.8    0.6    2.3    0.1    0.8    0.4    0.31
Career       110    12.3    12.0    24.3    4.4    1.1    0.8    3.7    0    0.9    0.5    0.45
   
So try telling me the difference between the two is worth pick 5 You are dreaming.

Do not mind throwing in pick 25 but pick 5 and Reddan dreaming.

I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.

[GoLions]

I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.

I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.

[Jroo]

I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.

I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.

Yeah for sure, you guys would want to give up Redden. Not sure what you can offer on top of pick 5 to get the deal done, though.

But who knows, I guess we'll find out tomorrow?

[GoLions]

I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.

I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.

Yeah for sure, you guys would want to give up Redden. Not sure what you can offer on top of pick 5 to get the deal done, though.

But who knows, I guess we'll find out tomorrow?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like picks 5, 25, and Golby/Lester/Crisp
That, or a 3-way deal where the Pies get a good player from another club.

[Jroo]

I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.

I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.

Yeah for sure, you guys would want to give up Redden. Not sure what you can offer on top of pick 5 to get the deal done, though.

But who knows, I guess we'll find out tomorrow?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like picks 5, 25, and Golby/Lester/Crisp
That, or a 3-way deal where the Pies get a good player from another club.

Yeah that wouldn't be too bad.

What are your thoughts on Pick 5 + Mayes for Beams?
Collingwood do that, but again looks like Brisbane won't be trading Mayes.

[shaker]

Does anyone think about Reddan that he might not want to go anywhere ?

[GoLions]

I'd say Beams is worth a bit more than Redden.
He wins a lot more of the ball and kicks goals.
Collingwood won't trade Beams unless they get pick 5, too.
Lions would probably ask for their 2nd rounder, but Pies would probably only offer third rounder.

So, Beams + 3rd rounder for Redden + 1st rounder would be more than fair.

I would be 100% against that. Not because I don't think it's a fair trade btw, but mainly because of the reasons I mentioned earlier. And plus, we didn't go after Beams, he said he wants to leave Collingwood and come to us. If it was the other way around, and let's say Hanley or Rocky wanted to leave Brisbane and go to Collingwood, would the Pies give up a top 5 draft pick (or a 2nd rounder) and one of Pendles/Beams/Sidebum? I doubt it.
If we were lacking in the midfield department, I'd probably be more inclined for us to trade one of our better players. But we're not. We have a midfield that should be extremely good for many years to come. What we need is a good key forward and defender, so therefore we shouldn't be losing our top players for another mid.

Yeah for sure, you guys would want to give up Redden. Not sure what you can offer on top of pick 5 to get the deal done, though.

But who knows, I guess we'll find out tomorrow?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like picks 5, 25, and Golby/Lester/Crisp
That, or a 3-way deal where the Pies get a good player from another club.

Yeah that wouldn't be too bad.

What are your thoughts on Pick 5 + Mayes for Beams?
Collingwood do that, but again looks like Brisbane won't be trading Mayes.

From what I've seen over the last year or so, Mayes REALLY wants to stay at Brisbane. I don't think it would be good for the club if we traded him.
It would be a fair trade though.

[Ricochet]

Does anyone think about Reddan that he might not want to go anywhere ?

yeh reckon everyone thinks that man. Everyone is just throwing up possible fair trades

[Nails]

They're the same age Ringo, both born in 1990 and both drafted in 2008...

Jack Redden - 9th December 1990

He'll be 24 year old for all of season 2015

Dayne Beams - 12th Feb 1990

He'll be 25 year old for all of season 2015

For all intents and purposes Redden is 1 year younger than Beams.

[GoLions]

Does anyone think about Reddan that he might not want to go anywhere ?

yeh reckon everyone thinks that man. Everyone is just throwing up possible fair trades

And I honestly think that if another Lion wanted out (exluding Sauce and Patfull), it would've been made known by now. So I guess everyone wants to stay, which is good for us :)