Draft and Mini Trade for Relinquished Teams Players.

Nige · August 23, 2014, 05:17:28 PM

Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 23, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
PM sent - happy reading Ringo.

That took an hour, must have been one hell of a PM.

Curious to know what was said and why it can't be made public.

Memphistopheles · August 23, 2014, 05:39:14 PM

Quote from: NigeyS on August 23, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 23, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
PM sent - happy reading Ringo.
That took an hour, must have been one hell of a PM.

Curious to know what was said and why it can't be made public.

It's a simple reason - because I was outlining deals we have lined up already this off-season with regards to improving our team and who we are thinking of taking with our picks in the mini and national draft.

Not fair to anyone else involved if I mention these deals (I trust Ringo won't tell) and we could get shafted by others if I revealed who we want to take (the Pick 1 doesn't matter as you can't do anything about it) with our second Pick in the mini draft.

Justin Bieber · August 23, 2014, 05:41:13 PM

4 pages in 3 hours

tl:dr

Any summaries?

Nige · August 23, 2014, 05:51:18 PM

Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 23, 2014, 05:39:14 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 23, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on August 23, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
PM sent - happy reading Ringo.
That took an hour, must have been one hell of a PM.

Curious to know what was said and why it can't be made public.

It's a simple reason - because I was outlining deals we have lined up already this off-season with regards to improving our team and who we are thinking of taking with our picks in the mini and national draft.

Not fair to anyone else involved if I mention these deals (I trust Ringo won't tell) and we could get shafted by others if I revealed who we want to take (the Pick 1 doesn't matter as you can't do anything about it) with our second Pick in the mini draft.

I think you might have missed my post containing something for you above.

Quote from: whatlez on August 23, 2014, 05:41:13 PM
4 pages in 3 hours

tl:dr

Any summaries?

doging over the draft.

New vote in your inbox.

Ringo · August 23, 2014, 05:51:52 PM

Summary for you Lez

A lot of BS arguing one way then the other. I stepped in as Administrator and put ot another vote just with 2 options.

JBs-Hawks · August 23, 2014, 05:53:13 PM

Pfft cant change a vote after its happened just gonna send the competition backwards who cares who people pick let them run there teams.

And definitely cant revote after pick orders have been shown ::)

Ringo · August 23, 2014, 05:56:14 PM

You can always annul a vote which is a democratic right and then act in terms of the replacement vote. Pick orders were randomised anyway and new proposal has order defined so no reason why not.

Justin Bieber · August 23, 2014, 05:58:49 PM

I thought it was pre mature voting to start. Ringo made only 2 options to start and there should of been a lot more.

What I have a concern is that we only get 1 pick in the draft of the 2 abandoned teams and then the rookie draft comes along and last again.

So essentially, some teams get 3 picks of good players before I even get my second and when it gets to that second pick, it will be ordinary players. That was my major concern from the other day.

Nige · August 23, 2014, 06:09:35 PM

Quote from: whatlez on August 23, 2014, 05:58:49 PM
I thought it was pre mature voting to start. Ringo made only 2 options to start and there should of been a lot more.

What I have a concern is that we only get 1 pick in the draft of the 2 abandoned teams and then the rookie draft comes along and last again.

So essentially, some teams get 3 picks of good players before I even get my second and when it gets to that second pick, it will be ordinary players. That was my major concern from the other day.

That's part of the discussion above and from the other day.

Ringo was saying that teams like yours, the Hedgehogs and the Werewolves have better lists and stronger XVs which is why the order is like it is.

It's being done the way it is so teams down the bottom can improve their lists and XVs if they wish through the picking of the 'recycled' players.

JBs-Hawks · August 23, 2014, 06:15:56 PM

Quote from: Ringo on August 23, 2014, 05:56:14 PM
You can always annul a vote which is a democratic right and then act in terms of the replacement vote. Pick orders were randomised anyway and new proposal has order defined so no reason why not.

Because if your defined by ladder pick is better then your random pick you vote for it

Spite · August 23, 2014, 06:21:24 PM

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 23, 2014, 05:53:13 PM
Pfft cant change a vote after its happened just gonna send the competition backwards who cares who people pick let them run there teams.

And definitely cant revote after pick orders have been shown ::)

Says the guy who is lined up to take first pick :P... (Also if you read the rules properly of the trading of these picks, you'll find it player for pick only - 1 for 1. So no pick 8 + player for pick 1 anyway)

The draft wasn't meant to be used for the purpose in which I first voted.

JBs-Hawks · August 23, 2014, 06:29:37 PM

Didnt know I had first pick?

Justin Bieber · August 23, 2014, 07:32:05 PM

We might as well reverse* the rookie draft order so that the 'better' lists still get some players. So Giants get top 10 player, starting player and depth player while I get depth player. We want it fair, I see it evening the comp in the short term, long term the top teams will be damaged...

Ringo · August 24, 2014, 07:19:41 AM

Will be locking this thread later today. 13 of 16 coaches have now voted and we have majority for option b so I will start a new Thread for the New Draft which will commence once positions 1 and 2 are decided (3 and 4 will be decided this weekend).

So we will have a 2 round looped draft for Swaggers and Falcons players with remaining players going into the rookie draft. There will be a minimum 3 round rookie draft with subsequent rounds required to bring lists to maximum 45 players. Rookie draft picks can be traded first 3 rounds will be reverse finishing order as per current rules with subsequent rounds to be decided based on list requirements following de-listings by 5th September.