WXV Trade Talk

[Holz]

This is pretty fun. Dunno what it's about though. ;)

Can we have a Big Brother type show with just Holz and Meow? Would pay moneys to see that one.

Hahahaha this

as long as meow is Skye ;)

[meow meow]

Holz, I know you're finding it difficult to deal with the fact that my opinion differs from yours, but here is my logic behind the trade.

to be fair meow, Holz is voicing his argument just as much as you're voicing your argument

Yeah I know, I don't have a problem with it. I've even admitted that I might be wrong. Having a difference of opinion is actually a good thing and creates a bit of interest. Blocking my trade over it is not a good thing though. All that does is just limits my control over MY own team and removes my ability to have my own opinion.

[MajorLazer]

He can be Ground for all I care.

Just wanna see the drama!

[Holz]

Holz, I know you're finding it difficult to deal with the fact that my opinion differs from yours, but here is my logic behind the trade.

to be fair meow, Holz is voicing his argument just as much as you're voicing your argument

Yeah I know, I don't have a problem with it. I've even admitted that I might be wrong. Having a difference of opinion is actually a good thing and creates a bit of interest. Blocking my trade over it is not a good thing though. All that does is just limits my control over MY own team and removes my ability to have my own opinion.

Try instead of hapenning once , every single week

I agree soo much with your point but looking at the trades that have been rejected this certainly falls into the same category.

[meow meow]

Rocky 240 + Gilbert 75 = 315
Sandi 220 + Gibbs 110 = 330

Then Rocky 120 vs Gibbs 110 in a couple of years. Minor gain short term for a minor loss long term. I can see value in this trade.

If you can honestly say that you think there is no chance of this happening then block the trade. You might not think that it's likely to happen, but the only reason you can block it is if you think there's absolutely no chance of it happening under any circumstances.

Plus when I originally posted the trade, I said I want Gibbs because he never misses games, and wanted Sandi for a better ruck division. IMO they are little wins, and they have nothing to do with the numbers but I take these things into account when making the trade.

[Holz]

Rocky 240 + Gilbert 75 = 315
Sandi 220 + Gibbs 110 = 330

Then Rocky 120 vs Gibbs 110 in a couple of years. Minor gain short term for a minor loss long term. I can see value in this trade.

If you can honestly say that you think there is no chance of this happening then block the trade. You might not think that it's likely to happen, but the only reason you can block it is if you think there's absolutely no chance of it happening under any circumstances.

Plus when I originally posted the trade, I said I want Gibbs because he never misses games, and wanted Sandi for a better ruck division. IMO they are little wins, and they have nothing to do with the numbers but I take these things into account when making the trade.

Can't I just say

Rocky 130
Gibbs 100

If you can't say there is no chance this won't happen you have to reject it?

If your giving people the benefit of the doubt and trusting coaches that's ok but than the bennel deal needs to pass.


Either both should pass or both should fail. If this Rocky deal goes through, all of my trades should have.

[meow meow]

Rocky 240 + Gilbert 75 = 315
Sandi 220 + Gibbs 110 = 330

Then Rocky 120 vs Gibbs 110 in a couple of years. Minor gain short term for a minor loss long term. I can see value in this trade.

If you can honestly say that you think there is no chance of this happening then block the trade. You might not think that it's likely to happen, but the only reason you can block it is if you think there's absolutely no chance of it happening under any circumstances.

Plus when I originally posted the trade, I said I want Gibbs because he never misses games, and wanted Sandi for a better ruck division. IMO they are little wins, and they have nothing to do with the numbers but I take these things into account when making the trade.

Can't I just say

Rocky 130
Gibbs 100

If you can't say there is no chance this won't happen you have to reject it?

No, you can't just say that as if it's the only possibility.

I could win the trade. I could lose the trade. I get it. I'm not as dogmatic as some people around here who can only see one possible scenario and are convinced that that's how it is going to be. I have my opinion and made the trade based on that but I am well aware that it might not go exactly as planned.

Plus you're disregarding the part about improved ruck depth. I will happily give up 5 points for improved ruck stocks. I would take a 5 point loss for gaining a mid who never misses games vs one who is more likely to miss. Not everything is all about the head to head numbers.

[Holz]

I would say losing your number 2 defender is bigger than a back up ruck who is an injury risk. Especially when one is 32 and one is 28.

Why not just have used gunston to pick up a young ruck who can play. You basically traded gunston for sandi

It's not just numbers I agree , but your losing on positions too.

Losing short term,medium term, long term and positionally.

I honestly can't see how your winning even if Gibbs improves and Rocky drops. It won't be enough. Calling it less than 1% chance you win or breakeven.  Greater than 50% you lose huge.

Plus if people use the bad for comp reason it should apply here.

[RaisyDaisy]

Geeez, took me about 20 minutes to catch up on all the talk in here today!

[meow meow]

I would say losing your number 2 defender is bigger than a back up ruck who is an injury risk. Especially when one is 32 and one is 28.

That 'back up' ruck would be my captain, so I would say that that adds some value. I'd also say that if Gilbert went down I would be able to replace him with someone who should score almost as much. If Minson goes down I'd be flowered. Makes Sandi way more valuable.

Why not just have used gunston to pick up a young ruck who can play. You basically traded gunston for sandi

I tried to get Witts, I tried to get Grundy. Coaches aren't exactly keen on giving up young rucks!

I honestly can't see how your winning even if Gibbs improves and Rocky drops. It won't be enough. Calling it less than 1% chance you win or breakeven.  Greater than 50% you lose huge.

If you can't see how 330 vs 315 while getting better ruck depth and a more reliable mid would be a win, then I'm not sure what else I can say to that to convince you. Seems pretty obvious to me.

[kilbluff1985]

i want to be in big brother  >:(

[Purple 77]

He can be Ground for all I care.

Just wanna see the drama!

Haha this.

[Master Q]

I have literally not read one post of this discussion.

But keep going.

[Ringo]

I am just commenting on Rocky. My personal opinion he will only average 110/120 this year. My reasoning for this, and for someone, that studied Brisbane games closely Rocky got the majority of his possessions in the back half as he was roaming across hb line a fair bit of the time and exerting tackling pressure on opposing half forwards. Question for this year is will he have the same role with the return of Rich and to a certain extent Redden ( remember the 140 average for final games was in Reddens absence as well) Rocky averaged 123 to Reddens injury and 143 after it.
Also Beams and Christensen taking points of Rocky as well would not be surprised if he even averaged less than 110.
This has been my thinking in rating all the trades involving Rocky and why I was not willing to pay huge for him.

[JBs-Hawks]

I have literally not read one post of this discussion.

But keep going.

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