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Started by Ricochet, August 12, 2014, 11:23:10 AM

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Nige

Quote from: Hellopplz on November 04, 2014, 06:00:30 PM
All we know is that Gunston is set to leave :P.
Most likely.

I think his destination is only between a certain few clubs as well.

meow meow

Quote from: Hellopplz on November 04, 2014, 06:00:30 PM
All we know is that Gunston is set to leave :P.

I'm happy to keep him. He's every chance to improve and even if he doesn't he's still a gun. Just floating the idea to see what I can get for him. I've had a few teams ask so I may as well put him out there for everyone, that's all.

Torpedo10

Geez Holz, we were in talks with him about Rocky and he just goes and accepts Meow's offer.

Nige

Was there ever any doubt that Gunston would end up at Dublin as soon as meow publicly tabled him?  :P

Good trade though guys.

Master Q

Brodie Grundy could be moved for a starting XV player and a decent ruck.

PM me if you are interested.

Holz

Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 04, 2014, 07:32:45 PM
Geez Holz, we were in talks with him about Rocky and he just goes and accepts Meow's offer.

You wanted Rocky Walters for jom Dunn hombsch

meow meow

Gunston 90.35 and Boak 105.71 = 196.06
Rockliff 132.00 and Green 66.15 = 198.15

I don't think I win the trade by too much.

Holz

Quote from: Nige on November 04, 2014, 07:35:00 PM
Was there ever any doubt that Gunston would end up at Dublin as soon as meow publicly tabled him?  :P

Good trade though guys.

He isn't at Dublin yet, I need the trade to pass .

Who knows if that will hsppen

meow meow

If people want to trade their early picks for slightly later picks I am open to swapping some, but there's not a large degree of difference in value between 5 and 20 this year so I won't pay massive overs to move up the order.

meow meow

Quote from: Holz on November 04, 2014, 08:02:23 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 04, 2014, 07:35:00 PM
Was there ever any doubt that Gunston would end up at Dublin as soon as meow publicly tabled him?  :P

Good trade though guys.

He isn't at Dublin yet, I need the trade to pass .

Who knows if that will hsppen

I can't think of a single reason why it won't. It can't get negged for any reason whatsoever.

Raw numbers: Almost identical
Gunston 90.35 and Boak 105.71 = 196.06
Rockliff 132.00 and Green 66.15 = 198.15

Age when they line up in round 1: Almost identical
Green 22, Rockliff 25
Gunston 23, Boak 26

How it affects Dublin: slightly weakens their best XV
Before: Rocky (c) 260, Selwood 120, Walters 75 - Green 66 on the bench = 455
After: Selwood (c) 240, Boak 105, Gunston 90 - Walters 75 on the bench = 435, better bench cover

How it affects Christchurch:
Before: Boak (c) 211 + Gunston 90 = 301
After: Rocky (c) 260 + Green 66 = 326

That is assuming that Rocky can keep his 130 average up with the addition of Beams, Christensen, and the return of Rich and Redden. DOUBTFUL. For this trade to make zero difference to my total score (301 each), Rockliff needs to average 117.5, which I think is about right, and way more likely than keeping up the 130 average. If he can somehow manage it, I have a tiny win.

If the Rocky 117.5 average happens, Dublin's "before" score would be 432.5 (Selwood captain), which is almost identical to their "after" score, although with the "after" score they have a better bench, and they have a tiny win.

Either way it is not worth of rejecting. It is as close to dead even as any trade in the history of trades.

Holz

^ thats why I wanted Meow in the comp,

thats exactly how my brain works too and I ran the above numbers through my head. Top quality analysis Meow, this game is bascially money ball and thats how you should look at trade in my opinion.

the only other factor I considered was the age of roughy, gunston gives me a bigger boost in 3-4 years when roughy is gone as walters can be my f4 not green so helps my starting team in 3-4 years.


elephants

Kinda hope this gets negged for the lols now

kilbluff1985


meow meow

Quote from: elephants on November 05, 2014, 01:07:42 AM
Kinda hope this gets negged for the lols now

I wouldn't care if it does, because I don't win or lose either way. If it doesn't pass, the only annoying part would be that people can't value trades properly. People should be able to do that shower in their head when deciding if a trade is fair or not.

The whole negging system doesn't work anyway. It is good in theory, but some trades let through are way worse than some that got negged. Including some in this trade period.

But I suppose it is getting better. In the very first trade period, some of the hombres in this competition let me trade Brian Lake, fresh off a 58.8 average for Adam Treloar before he had played an AFL match. Has to be the worst ever.

upthemaidens

  21yo Harry Cunningham, played all 22 games this year and will likely get forward status(probable dpp) next season.
      Will provide solid Depth as is, cementing his spot in the Swans best 22.  Potential to be a handy F5 dpp with good job security at your club.

  We will be looking for draft pick in return due to Points Cap issues.  PM any offers to Jayman or myself.