WXV Trade Talk

[ossie85]

You guys really think Dublin going undefeated is good for the comp?

Buenos Aires are a top 4 team three years in a row, this talk of needing a dramatic rebuild is premature

Rejecting trades because teams are too strong isn't good for the comp.

Agree that Dildo's weren't necessarily at that re-build point but thats the coaches decision and its already started when Barlow went for N2 N4 N22

Swan isn't worth that much and Chappy is worth pick 21 maybe

i think Swan is worth around pick 12

Delaney and Jetta are 26-24 next year and never gone over 70ave and have questionable JS in the past. Swan still has 2 years left on his current contract plus another year or two possibly. Is an elite scorer and has had a down year due to injury. Plus a slight chance of fwd status. He is worth that

just fyi, you can reject trades on the basis a strong team is getting stonger (gaining 2 starting xv, losing none) or a weaker team getting weaker

[Ricochet]

Just for comparison,  in AXV  Swan was traded for  Ricky Henderson+ Rohan Bail

yeh but was sent to the trade committee because most felt it wasn't near enough man

[Nails]

You guys really think Dublin going undefeated is good for the comp?

Buenos Aires are a top 4 team three years in a row, this talk of needing a dramatic rebuild is premature

Rejecting trades because teams are too strong isn't good for the comp.

Agree that Dildo's weren't necessarily at that re-build point but thats the coaches decision and its already started when Barlow went for N2 N4 N22

Swan isn't worth that much and Chappy is worth pick 21 maybe

i think Swan is worth around pick 12

Delaney and Jetta are 26-24 next year and never gone over 70ave and have questionable JS in the past. Swan still has 2 years left on his current contract plus another year or two possibly. Is an elite scorer and has had a down year due to injury. Plus a slight chance of fwd status. He is worth that

just fyi, you can reject trades on the basis a strong team is getting stonger (gaining 2 starting xv, losing none) or a weaker team getting weaker

Last I checked that wasn't the rule and if it is it should be stopped. Trades should be looked at individually.

Just for comparison,  in AXV  Swan was traded for  Ricky Henderson+ Rohan Bail 

there is no comparison between AXV and WXV and I'm pretty sure this trade is getting rejected.

[Master Q]

Beunos Aires give: Steve Johnson
New York give: Pick 8 and Shaun Atley

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Stevie J is a way way way way better than Swanny and have similar time left in the competition.

N12 + N21 + Delaney + Jetta is too much IMO, let alone the rest of the trade...

[Ricochet]

Beunos Aires give: Steve Johnson
New York give: Pick 8 and Shaun Atley

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Stevie J is a way way way way better than Swanny and have similar time left in the competition.

N12 + N21 + Delaney + Jetta is too much IMO, let alone the rest of the trade...

N12 + Delaney roughly = N8
N21 + Jetta = Atley

The players are worth so little. They're over halfway through their careers and aren't even close to being starters.
Johnson is a year older and never averaged over 116. Swan had 5 years of 117+ before this injury affected year

[Nails]

It's not really a matter of the Dildos going for too much, it's the cap.

Neville Jetta and Luke Delaney are two HACKS they're worth pretty much nothing. a 25yo averaging 43 - worth nothing.

Also Dane Swan will be a forward next year - 100 average Swan forward better than whatever Stevie J averages in the mids.

Also Atley is worth more than Neville Jetta and Luke Delaney combined.

Delaney  a 25yo defender averaging 43 - worth nothing.
N. Jetta an about to be 25yo midfielder on the fringe of his club's 22 is averaging 60.

Atley is a young just turned 22 - 2 weeks ago soon to be premo defender. He's worth Delaney + Jetta + Frost + Pick 12 alone.

The problem the Dildos have is we don't want these spuds. We're only interested in the picks and Hewett. None of the other players are worth anything. We're only trading them because we need the cap points.

I don't think anyone has looked at the quality of Jetta/Delaney. Sam Frost is a KPP who doesn't seem to be fantasy relevant.

The Dillos don't want these hacks, they're flowering jokes of players. 25yo and can't even get a game half the time. Our problem is we can't trade WITHOUT getting them because we'd go below this stupid minimum cap rule ::)

[ossie85]

Well certainly doesn't help your case Nails

[Nails]

Beunos Aires give: Steve Johnson
New York give: Pick 8 and Shaun Atley

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Stevie J is a way way way way better than Swanny and have similar time left in the competition.

N12 + N21 + Delaney + Jetta is too much IMO, let alone the rest of the trade...

I don't think you realise just how bad Delaney and Jetta are. They're essentially worthless. I wouldn't even give a 5th round rookie pick for both of them in a trade.

They're only there because we need cap points.

[Nails]

Well certainly doesn't help your case Nails

It's a fair trade for both teams. Shouldn't be rejected. It helps both teams do what they're trying to do.

[Nige]

This is kinda why I'm against teams going too far one way in terms of team demographic. A number of coaches seem across XVs really seem to be determined to have a team of 'kids' or a team of 'oldies' because they won't be in their premiership window and all this nonsense and they want to make the starting team better in case injury or suspensions hit.

I really don't get what's so wrong with having a few players outside the majority age bracket of one's team or even having a balanced one (players of all ages).

[Jroo]

Just for comparison,  in AXV  Swan was traded for  Ricky Henderson+ Rohan Bail

yeh but was sent to the trade committee because most felt it wasn't near enough man

That's funny, because somehow that was the best offer he received for Swanny.

I personally didn't neg the trade, even though I wanted to as it made Dublin stronger. But I think it's fair, Swanny is past it and Chappy isn't anything special. The two picks are decent, Grigg is average and Frost could be at a new club. At least Jetta and Delaney play, they could be starters for the Dildos.

[ossie85]

Nails you are still way over the cap, and even over the cap if you traded Swan and Chapman alone for picks. Stop doing those kind of trades.

[Nails]

Nails you are still way over the cap, and even over the cap if you traded Swan and Chapman alone for picks. Stop doing those kind of trades.

We'd be 22,186

i.e. 186 points over the cap. You have to consider we also had other trades in talk at the time of the holz trade. Like the 5 or so we've put through this week.

If we just traded Chapman and Swan for picks alone we wouldn't have really been able to make ANY trades this week.

We HAD to do this kind of trade for a reason. Nobody is going to straight swap a great young kid for Swan so we have to combine Swan + other player for kid. Therefore losing cap points.

This is the EXACT kind of trade we NEED to do. Otherwise we'll end up with NOTHING.

[Nails]

Oh and if our Crouch trade got negged we would have been BELOW the minimum cap therefore AUTO-negging our Swap/Chapman trade if it were straight swap for picks.

Therefore, no we couldn't have just traded for picks at all ::)

[ossie85]

The cap is designed to stop teams from trading out multiple stars for unknown and unproven players