AXVS: TRADE DISCUSSION (2014/15)

Started by BB67th, August 06, 2014, 04:53:59 PM

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JBs-Hawks


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tbagrocks

People complaining about trades clearly do not rate their own team very much as they haven't traded in who they wanted to keep themselves competitive :o

Otherwise, why the fridge would you complain? ???

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
People complaining about trades clearly do not rate their own team very much as they haven't traded in who they wanted to keep themselves competitive :o

Otherwise, why the fridge would you complain? ???

Yep thats exactly why ::)

tbagrocks

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
People complaining about trades clearly do not rate their own team very much as they haven't traded in who they wanted to keep themselves competitive :o

Otherwise, why the fridge would you complain? ???

Yep thats exactly why ::)
Yeah I know, why else would people choose to be dicks? ???

upthemaidens

Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 19, 2014, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 19, 2014, 09:58:56 PM
Relevant to this thread I think.

I ask the people this: If nrich can't trade his good players now, what's he supposed to do? How would you guys go about rebuilding the Dongs? I think he's taking the right path because really, there isn't much else he can do when a majority of coaches have no interest in older players.
He can trade out whomever he wants, but the trades are not even. That's the issue.
  It's not just about who the Dongs sell, it's also about the Lambs paying a correct price.

     We have to be playing under the same conditions
  Stanton = #10
  Montagna=#43
      So Stants+Joey= #10+#43
 
  Yet  #14+Casboult can't buy Mundy   why?   Stanton 28yo 133avg > Mundy 29yo 125avg
       Let's say Casboult= #20,  (#14+#20 > #10+#43)

   So Mundy is worth more then Stanton+Montagna
However it doesn't work like this

Each trade must be judged on each teams merit, if I traded Mundy for a forward, would've left us short in the midfield therefore trade cannot be accepted. We ended up trading in Douglas for Mundy so we still got our forward (Menzel) and still kept a good midfielder!
Ok that's fine, I'm cool with that..
    So what Midfielder did the Dongs get back in to replace Stanton and Montagna in that trade?  Or has the Dongs not been left short in the Midfield now?
   

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
People complaining about trades clearly do not rate their own team very much as they haven't traded in who they wanted to keep themselves competitive :o

Otherwise, why the fridge would you complain? ???

Yep thats exactly why ::)
Yeah I know, why else would people choose to be dicks? ???

Instead of slinging around names like is your standard practice. Why dont you go over to the trade thread and try and use some facts as to why lewis is worth so much more then stanton.

nrich102

If you're unhappy with the decision you are welcome to leave

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: upthemaidens on November 22, 2014, 04:17:16 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: upthemaidens on November 19, 2014, 10:11:04 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 19, 2014, 09:58:56 PM
Relevant to this thread I think.

I ask the people this: If nrich can't trade his good players now, what's he supposed to do? How would you guys go about rebuilding the Dongs? I think he's taking the right path because really, there isn't much else he can do when a majority of coaches have no interest in older players.
He can trade out whomever he wants, but the trades are not even. That's the issue.
  It's not just about who the Dongs sell, it's also about the Lambs paying a correct price.

     We have to be playing under the same conditions
  Stanton = #10
  Montagna=#43
      So Stants+Joey= #10+#43
 
  Yet  #14+Casboult can't buy Mundy   why?   Stanton 28yo 133avg > Mundy 29yo 125avg
       Let's say Casboult= #20,  (#14+#20 > #10+#43)

   So Mundy is worth more then Stanton+Montagna
However it doesn't work like this

Each trade must be judged on each teams merit, if I traded Mundy for a forward, would've left us short in the midfield therefore trade cannot be accepted. We ended up trading in Douglas for Mundy so we still got our forward (Menzel) and still kept a good midfielder!
Ok that's fine, I'm cool with that..
    So what Midfielder did the Dongs get back in to replace Stanton and Montagna in that trade?  Or has the Dongs not been left short in the Midfield now?


Exactly the dongs trade out there starting midfielders for chips whereas a premiership contender trades one out and has able back up yet that trade gets rejected because he isnt getting enough  in return

nrich102

So should I just let them retire and get nothing in return?

tbagrocks

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2014, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
People complaining about trades clearly do not rate their own team very much as they haven't traded in who they wanted to keep themselves competitive :o

Otherwise, why the fridge would you complain? ???

Yep thats exactly why ::)
Yeah I know, why else would people choose to be dicks? ???

Instead of slinging around names like is your standard practice. Why dont you go over to the trade thread and try and use some facts as to why lewis is worth so much more then stanton.
Already explained how trades differ from team to team, it's based on a needs for each team. You want me to explain something I have no say or control over? Keep on whinging though, it will get you more supporters

It wouldn't bother you if your list was good enough to win finals!

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: nrich102 on November 22, 2014, 04:21:39 PM
So should I just let them retire and get nothing in return?

Stanton is 28 and has 5 years left. And you wont get nothing by keeping them you will get chances in games this year. Chances to win games and not just be pumped every week. Also by saying you a rebuilding means hey guys i want to trade my old guys come at me with low offers im pretty desperate to get rid of my guys. Do it more subtly and less desperately and you might actually get decent value.

Jay

Choosing not to get proper value for players is tanking. Should not be allowed.

JBs-Hawks

Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2014, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 22, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
People complaining about trades clearly do not rate their own team very much as they haven't traded in who they wanted to keep themselves competitive :o

Otherwise, why the fridge would you complain? ???

Yep thats exactly why ::)
Yeah I know, why else would people choose to be dicks? ???

Instead of slinging around names like is your standard practice. Why dont you go over to the trade thread and try and use some facts as to why lewis is worth so much more then stanton.
Already explained how trades differ from team to team, it's based on a needs for each team. You want me to explain something I have no say or control over? Keep on whinging though, it will get you more supporters

It wouldn't bother you if your list was good enough to win finals!

I just showed how the trades suited each team and it supports my argument....

I think my list has yours covered pretty easily so thanks for that advice.

nrich102

Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 22, 2014, 04:26:21 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on November 22, 2014, 04:21:39 PM
So should I just let them retire and get nothing in return?

Stanton is 28 and has 5 years left. And you wont get nothing by keeping them you will get chances in games this year. Chances to win games and not just be pumped every week. Also by saying you a rebuilding means hey guys i want to trade my old guys come at me with low offers im pretty desperate to get rid of my guys. Do it more subtly and less desperately and you might actually get decent value.
Pick 10 = Stanton

Old guys aren't worth much in this game, I need to trade out guys like Montagna or else I wont get anything for them.

Last time I heard pick 42 is better than nothing.

If you dont like the competition then leave, its that simple.