WXV Round 17: Epic Rhythm Cup, Asian Cup, Finals, Minor Prem, Spoon, Top 4......

[Master Q]

Even if it wasn't tanking, then it would be poor coaching. Either way you look at it, it doesn't look good.

I disagree, we all leave a forgotten player out once, Howe was simply not added to the team. Hurley battling against other good forwards and please, Bonti is a ten game player

Howe played last week though?

[Jay]

Bontempelli going down to Tassie to play Hawthorn.. Tough ask for a 10-gamer.

As for co-captains look at our list. We have Redden injured and Tmitch not getting a game. Tell me if you see a clear choice for captaincy. Elliot and Blair are 2 of 3 guys we have named averaging over 74, yet we're getting investigated for co-captaining them? Didn't trust Gibson up against Geelon and he only scored 75 so I think we made an okay decision.

We can't all have a perfect week at the selection table.

[tbagrocks]

Even if it wasn't tanking, then it would be poor coaching. Either way you look at it, it doesn't look good.

I disagree, we all leave a forgotten player out once, Howe was simply not added to the team. Hurley battling against other good forwards and please, Bonti is a ten game player

Howe played last week though?

That's right and he was forgotten when teams were named this week, what's so wrong with forgetting a player?

No I will not explain the Co-Captains, nothing wrong with the players selected

Bonti is a ten game 18yr old, we thought the more mature Cunningham might perform better several  years into his career

[Master Q]

And Howe? And Hurley?

[Nige]

Even if it wasn't tanking, then it would be poor coaching. Either way you look at it, it doesn't look good.

I disagree, we all leave a forgotten player out once, Howe was simply not added to the team. Hurley battling against other good forwards and please, Bonti is a ten game player

You made Bontempelli co-captain in his 8th game though.  ???

[JBs-Hawks]

And cant use playing hawks as an excuse, they leak points to midfielders every week.

[ossie85]

Ease up guys, let's keep it constructive.

The Table below shows each Pacific player, how many AFL games played, how many WXV games played and the average of that player this year.

Please note we have had 1 more AFL game than WXV. Also note that the Islanders have been RAVAGED by injury. This does not include this round.

The biggest questions are why Michael Hurley and Marcus Bontempelli have been consistently overlooked (Hurley statistically the 3rd best forward but has only made it on the park 3 times). Also how Jack Martin keeps getting selected with an average of 37, who is only a 6 gamer 18year old and Harry Cunningham, also young with an average of 56.56 gets selected a fair bit.


Absolutely no problem with co-captains, they don't have anybody to choose from really with Redden out.

Surname   Given   AFL14   WXV14   AVEAFL
Redden   Jack   14   13   103.14
Wood   Cameron   1   0   94.00
Gibson   Sam   17   16   93.29
Elliott   Jamie   15   13   83.47
Howe   Jeremy   17   13   83.24
Hurley   Michael   15   3   76.87
Hampton   Curtly   10   9   76.20
Mitchell   Tom   4   4   76.00
Bontempelli   Marcus   11   3   75.18
Blair   Jarryd   16   15   74.31
Stanley   Rhys   14   2   73.71
Witts   Jarrod   15   8   73.13
Tomlinson   Adam   14   11   72.64
Howlett   Ben   15   15   72.47
Mohr   Tim   8   8   72.38
Spurr   Lee   17   15   72.18
de Boer   Matthew   10   9   69.80
Thomas   Lindsay   16   9   69.06
Longer   Billy   11   5   68.36
Milera   Terry   5   3   67.80
Sheppard   Bradley   14   0   66.86
Davis   Phil   7   0   62.71
Day   Sam   17   6   60.94
Terlich   Dean   14   9   60.07
Johannisen   Jason   7   2   60.00
Leuenberger   Matthew   4   4   59.25
Brown   Luke   17   3   58.12
Otten   Andy   8   7   58.00
Cunningham   Harry   17   11   56.76
Frost   Jack   17   0   55.47
Bugg   Tomas   12   9   54.50
Beams   Claye   9   6   51.56
Grigg   Mitchell   6   4   50.83
Hardingham   Kyle   8   0   46.13
Tippett   Joel   4   0   42.50
Blease   Sam   1   0   39.00
Martin   Jack   6   5   37.67
Hutchins   Jack   3   0   15.33



Look, while I can't 100% rule it out that tanking happened, I'm willing to say that it is poor coaching, and not a desire to tank, that's the problem here.


Jay/tbag - next year will be looked at closely, really. Forgetting a key player like Howe is not something all coaches do, not paying attention to take advantage of loop holes, sub rules, flooding and attacking also can only be described as poor coaching.

So I'm not saying you are tanking, but you guys need to lift your game a bit.


Master Q/Toga - a bit sympathy is required. You guys almost got done for this last year.

[JBs-Hawks]

Some action should be taken surely. At the least shuffle them down a few draft picks?

Will set an example for future tanking.

Seoul have had no chance of finals the last two weeks so we could of gone for a pick but no we pumped our two closet opponents for picks ;)

[kilbluff1985]

Oh yeah we get Broughtons score for Mitchell not a bad result :)

[ossie85]

Some action should be taken surely. At the least shuffle them down a few draft picks?

For poor coaching?

It's a slippery slope. Some games have been lost because coaches have forgotten to name a team or activated a rule when they should have (I think Seoul lost a game because they forgot the sub rule once, shouldn't mean I move the Magpies down a few draft picks).

But, if people feel really strongly about it, send me a PM :/

[JBs-Hawks]

Having a player score 111 as your CC then dropping him the next week isnt poor coaching its tanking.

[tbagrocks]

Some action should be taken surely. At the least shuffle them down a few draft picks?

Will set an example for future tanking.

Seoul have had no chance of finals the last two weeks so we could of gone for a pick but no we pumped our two closet opponents for picks ;)

I demand some action from these type of comments!

It'd called bullying and it is not acceptable

[Nige]

Woodward not sub!  :o

Was very close to naming him after last week's effort (after taking off the green vest) and this week's Carlton players debacle.

[Jay]

Some action should be taken surely. At the least shuffle them down a few draft picks?

Will set an example for future tanking.

So how about action gets taken against teams that traded poorly last off-season while we're at it?

[JBs-Hawks]

Some action should be taken surely. At the least shuffle them down a few draft picks?

Will set an example for future tanking.

So how about action gets taken against teams that traded poorly last off-season while we're at it?

Well you are the team that is going to win the spoon, so sure.