2015 lock ins.

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Ricochet

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 15, 2014, 01:37:02 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 15, 2014, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: The_Captain on December 15, 2014, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 15, 2014, 12:37:55 PM
Don't think he can gain def status off 3 games

They do it all based on the heat map doesnt it? So if he raked up all his ball in def then he should get it.
Yeh but I'm not sure 3 games is enough to change a players possie.

Daisy lost forward status after only a few games
Yeh 5

Rids

Quote from: nperera95 on December 15, 2014, 11:52:17 AM
Anyone considering Daniel Rich? I reading one of Jock Reynolds articles on Rich and according to him he is expected to be priced at $348K. What are the chances of him getting the mid/def status? When fit, I see him averaging anywhere between 90-100. If he does get the DPP status, I'll be pretty close to locking him in  :D



Mid only unfortunately

meow meow

Quote from: nperera95 on December 15, 2014, 11:52:17 AM
Anyone considering Daniel Rich? I reading one of Jock Reynolds articles on Rich and according to him he is expected to be priced at $348K. What are the chances of him getting the mid/def status? When fit, I see him averaging anywhere between 90-100. If he does get the DPP status, I'll be pretty close to locking him in  :D

His best ever average is 90.3. Doing his ACL means that he will not only match that, but probably improve too? I don't think so. Expecting anything more than 80-85 is a bit optimistic.

Holz

Quote from: meow meow on December 15, 2014, 03:17:08 PM
Quote from: nperera95 on December 15, 2014, 11:52:17 AM
Anyone considering Daniel Rich? I reading one of Jock Reynolds articles on Rich and according to him he is expected to be priced at $348K. What are the chances of him getting the mid/def status? When fit, I see him averaging anywhere between 90-100. If he does get the DPP status, I'll be pretty close to locking him in  :D

His best ever average is 90.3. Doing his ACL means that he will not only match that, but probably improve too? I don't think so. Expecting anything more than 80-85 is a bit optimistic.

agree here, rather a rookie to save 180k or to spend up and get a real premo. If your picking him you kind of need 85 at least than to bring in a super premo within the first 8 or so weeks for it to be worth it. too much hassle for not enough reward.

dmac07

Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2014, 03:39:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 15, 2014, 03:17:08 PM
Quote from: nperera95 on December 15, 2014, 11:52:17 AM
Anyone considering Daniel Rich? I reading one of Jock Reynolds articles on Rich and according to him he is expected to be priced at $348K. What are the chances of him getting the mid/def status? When fit, I see him averaging anywhere between 90-100. If he does get the DPP status, I'll be pretty close to locking him in  :D

His best ever average is 90.3. Doing his ACL means that he will not only match that, but probably improve too? I don't think so. Expecting anything more than 80-85 is a bit optimistic.

agree here, rather a rookie to save 180k or to spend up and get a real premo. If your picking him you kind of need 85 at least than to bring in a super premo within the first 8 or so weeks for it to be worth it. too much hassle for not enough reward.

Agree as well, also with the Lions New pick ups they won't rush him back into a full time midfield role, he will be behind Rockliff and Beams for mid time definately. And probably behind Redden, Christensen and Hanley too. Will swap off the flanks and score 80-85 in my opinion. Would rather take a punt on Petracca or Brayshaw, who may average 60 but potentially up to 80. Make an extra 150k profit and use the money to start Buddy instead of Walters or Shaw instead of Ibbotson for example.

H1bb3i2d

Quote from: dmac07 on December 15, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2014, 03:39:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 15, 2014, 03:17:08 PM
Quote from: nperera95 on December 15, 2014, 11:52:17 AM
Anyone considering Daniel Rich? I reading one of Jock Reynolds articles on Rich and according to him he is expected to be priced at $348K. What are the chances of him getting the mid/def status? When fit, I see him averaging anywhere between 90-100. If he does get the DPP status, I'll be pretty close to locking him in  :D

His best ever average is 90.3. Doing his ACL means that he will not only match that, but probably improve too? I don't think so. Expecting anything more than 80-85 is a bit optimistic.

agree here, rather a rookie to save 180k or to spend up and get a real premo. If your picking him you kind of need 85 at least than to bring in a super premo within the first 8 or so weeks for it to be worth it. too much hassle for not enough reward.

Agree as well, also with the Lions New pick ups they won't rush him back into a full time midfield role, he will be behind Rockliff and Beams for mid time definately. And probably behind Redden, Christensen and Hanley too. Will swap off the flanks and score 80-85 in my opinion. Would rather take a punt on Petracca or Brayshaw, who may average 60 but potentially up to 80. Make an extra 150k profit and use the money to start Buddy instead of Walters or Shaw instead of Ibbotson for example.


I just don't see the Demons rushing either of them into their regular starting 21. Think Salem... I see both of them playing maybe 15 games, with at least 5 of them as sub. Which is perfect for a 120k rookie, but for a 200k rookie, they simply have to be starting on your field so you want guaranteed games, and boy those sub games hurt price rises when they need to average 20ppg more!

dmac07

Quote from: H1bb3i2d on December 15, 2014, 04:30:47 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on December 15, 2014, 04:16:22 PM
Quote from: Holz on December 15, 2014, 03:39:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on December 15, 2014, 03:17:08 PM
Quote from: nperera95 on December 15, 2014, 11:52:17 AM
Anyone considering Daniel Rich? I reading one of Jock Reynolds articles on Rich and according to him he is expected to be priced at $348K. What are the chances of him getting the mid/def status? When fit, I see him averaging anywhere between 90-100. If he does get the DPP status, I'll be pretty close to locking him in  :D

His best ever average is 90.3. Doing his ACL means that he will not only match that, but probably improve too? I don't think so. Expecting anything more than 80-85 is a bit optimistic.

agree here, rather a rookie to save 180k or to spend up and get a real premo. If your picking him you kind of need 85 at least than to bring in a super premo within the first 8 or so weeks for it to be worth it. too much hassle for not enough reward.

Agree as well, also with the Lions New pick ups they won't rush him back into a full time midfield role, he will be behind Rockliff and Beams for mid time definately. And probably behind Redden, Christensen and Hanley too. Will swap off the flanks and score 80-85 in my opinion. Would rather take a punt on Petracca or Brayshaw, who may average 60 but potentially up to 80. Make an extra 150k profit and use the money to start Buddy instead of Walters or Shaw instead of Ibbotson for example.


I just don't see the Demons rushing either of them into their regular starting 21. Think Salem... I see both of them playing maybe 15 games, with at least 5 of them as sub. Which is perfect for a 120k rookie, but for a 200k rookie, they simply have to be starting on your field so you want guaranteed games, and boy those sub games hurt price rises when they need to average 20ppg more!

Or Pickett, De Goey, Ahern, Cockatoo. To me he is just too awkwardly priced. Even if he does average 85 thats aprice rise of 140-150k, and coming back from a full year out I wouldn't think he'd start the season quickly, so may take a while to get that rise if he has a slow first 4-5 rounds. I hope he is populr and not having him is somewhat unique though. I just can never bring myself to take a punt on a guy like this in the middle when there is so many guns, and most of the best rookies (even though you always screw up at least one rookie pick)

Mat0369

The advantage of picking Rich is you can easily downgrade him to the rookie bolter out of the gates if he does flop and pocket the cash, whereas if he does come out and kill it it becomes more difficult to find the cash to bring him in

meow meow

I think there is a way better option around the same price range as Rich.

Mat0369

Since we don't know prices yet it is difficult, but I will be curious to see who is similarly priced. When I did well a couple of years ago Moloney was pretty instrumental in that. I also got lucky and traded him the week he flopped and brought in Griffen the week he smashed Port (scored over 170). If there is a guy priced mid 300's and you think he can get up to 500k by before the byes they could very well be worth it

Hellopplz

Rich has the risk involved. Has the potential to be good at SC, but cops attention from other teams and off an ACL, I'll be wary at his price. Could be worth the risk if you reckon he can bolt up his past averages, but I'm too conservative to go for him out of the gates :(.

GoLions

Really depends on who gets the #1 tag as well. If it goes to Hanley or Beams, we all know how damaging Rich can be, would be SC gold. If Rich gets it though, will struggle to average over 85.

I'll probably start him unless I can find the cash for another premium at M5.

_wato

At $306k he's a lock for sure.. Pushing $350k where I think he will be priced and I'd rather an extra rookie I would think (Or even NVB for certain points and a 70avg at least).

Mat0369

You would also assume that Rich would cop nowhere near the attention he did pre-acl with the addition of Beams and the fact Hanley is now a bonafide game breaker. You would want to monitor him in the NAB and then make a decision, but based on his form a couple years back in the pre-season comp that suckered a bunch of people into starting him and then having buyers regret when he flopped  I will more then likely avoid him

Hellopplz

Quote from: GoLions on December 16, 2014, 12:43:38 AM
Really depends on who gets the #1 tag as well. If it goes to Hanley or Beams, we all know how damaging Rich can be, would be SC gold. If Rich gets it though, will struggle to average over 85.

I'll probably start him unless I can find the cash for another premium at M5.
I reckon he'd still cop some tag, even if he goes Half Back or Beams/Hanley cop #1 tag. His kicking is too damaging like Hurn's if he goes as a rebounder, teams wouldn't want to give him too much space to work. I like watching him play, so hope it's less of course :P.

If he was a back (not next season but possible ones after), then I'd probably lock him. But as a midfielder, not so much.