Sir Tom "GOAT" Rockliff

[Money Shot]

I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

[Grufflez]

I think the thing people forget with teams like Brisbane & GWS is that they will be more competitive this year and get a bigger share of the total game points due to wins or even just controlling more of the play.

      Please correct me if this conclusion of mine is wrong  :)

[AaronKirk]

I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.

[Ricochet]

I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.

Rocky is on the same level of pig status. He may very well struggle to keep up his average but he won't drop below 120

[GoLions]

I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.

How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

It's extremely likely his average will drop a bit, and he'll be able to get picked up a bit cheaper. But, it's also extremely likely that he won't drop under 120, and therefore, unless he has an injury game or something, he's still going to be extremely difficult to bring in during the year.

[PICCOLLO]

Theres no doubting his class or that he'll finish in the top 8 mids this year IMO. Id just love him to play 22 games. Unless he significantly unbalances the dynamic of your team, I'd say lock him in and VC loop him and Gazza all year and watch the scores roll in.

[GoLions]

Theres no doubting his class or that he'll finish in the top 8 mids this year IMO. Id just love him to play 22 games. Unless he significantly unbalances the dynamic of your team, I'd say lock him in and VC loop him and Gazza all year and watch the scores roll in.

Preciselessness.

[meow meow]

I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.

How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

All 4 of them. GAJ has done it once but failed once too. The other 3 didn't even go close the next year.

[GoLions]

I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.

How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

All 4 of them. GAJ has done it once but failed once too. The other 3 didn't even go close the next year.

Out of curiosity, who were the other 3?

[meow meow]

Goddard, Judd, Jonathan Brown

[AaronKirk]

I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.

How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

All 4 of them. GAJ has done it once but failed once too. The other 3 didn't even go close the next year.

Out of curiosity, who were the other 3?

Luke Hodge 2005 went 135.3, dropped to 103.6 in 2006
Jonathon Brown 2006 went 140.5, dropped to 111.3 in 2007
Chris Judd 2006 went 131.8, dropped to 106.4 in 2007
Rockliff 2014 went 132 avg, ? in 2015
Ablett has gone 130+ in 2008,2009, 2012 and 2014

[Bully]

I really want him but do you guys think people aren't picking him because of his price or because he of the new inclusions to the side?
Will they effect the goat to much?

History says he won't go 120+ again

Only GAJ, Pendles and Swan in their careers have had multiple seasons of 120+

Now Rocky may go on a tear and average above 120 again but yet again history says he starts the season slow and comes home with a wet sail.

The unknown of how the new additions will affect the points distribution in the Brisbane Mids is the main reason not to pick him early IMO.

History and the new additions mean I cannot pick Rocky to start the season. His price IMO is not relevant at this stage.

How many players have gone 130+ and not backed it up the year after though? ;)

All 4 of them. GAJ has done it once but failed once too. The other 3 didn't even go close the next year.

Out of curiosity, who were the other 3?

Luke Hodge 2005 went 135.3, dropped to 103.6 in 2006
Jonathon Brown 2006 went 140.5, dropped to 111.3 in 2007
Chris Judd 2006 went 131.8, dropped to 106.4 in 2007
Rockliff 2014 went 132 avg, ? in 2015
Ablett has gone 130+ in 2008,2009, 2012 and 2014

Some great stats, there's certainly no guarantees but I reckon one could safely assume that Rocky is facing the tide of history. He'll be a keeper but I reckon there will be some good opportunities down the track. It's also worth noting that Rocky's three sub 100 scores all came in the first 13 rounds, this has also been replicated in previous seasons. Just for a bit of fun here are his early opponents and his 2014 scores.

vs Collingwood (137)
vs North Melbourne (126)
vs Richmond (115 & 141)
vs West Coast (DNP)
vs GC (155 & 175)
vs Carlton (182)
vs Port (117)
vs Essendon (133)

Average = 142

Looking at these numbers it certainly is a tough call, it's a pretty decent opening to the season and only Port represents a major obstacle.

[Ricochet]

I guess what sets Rocky apart from others is that his points come from simply racking showerloads of the footy. It isnt elite disposal like a Goddard and Judd, or goals like a Brown. Elite users can get tagged and key forwards have up and down years but pigs don't lose the ability to find the ball.

[GoLions]

Pfft, who dares archive the thread of the goat

[Football Factory]

I guess what sets Rocky apart from others is that his points come from simply racking showerloads of the footy. It isnt elite disposal like a Goddard and Judd, or goals like a Brown. Elite users can get tagged and key forwards have up and down years but pigs don't lose the ability to find the ball.

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