Round 14 - Tigers v Swans - Friday Jun 20th - MCG

Started by Ringo, June 18, 2014, 05:23:54 PM

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GoLions

Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 20, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on June 20, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
Yeah but Buddy was getting raped. Hope Rance used protection. The umpiring has been terrible for every team. Can't do much about it.


^^^^This


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Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:05:45 PM
Kennedy butchered the ball tonight, I couldn't care less if Cotchin kicked the ball short, at least they hit the mark. Absolute robbery if you ask me, I bet he gets coaches votes tonight, JPK will get nothing of the sort.

Cotchin 66% and 21 uncontested touches vs 58% and 17 CP's, 7 clearances and 12 tackles. CD hate short kicks, especially when it comes from and UP. Plus if you are averaging 6m a possession I don't know if those are exactly effective kicks. JPK was still racking them up when it was close in the last, Cotchin went missing

Let's just see who gets the coaches votes shall we, and pulling up stats like this doesn't excuse the fact he had 13 points taken away from his 3 quarter time score. Absolute joke.
It does though? That's how SC works. If you're amazing for the first 3 quarters and a half of a game, then go missing when the game is up for grabs, you are always going to lose points. Every single time.

Ricochet

He did have a good point about solving congestion problems though... call a ball up quicker and throw it up straight away.
Atm umps allow this rolling maul to run for too long. Which means players that are not immediately the stoppage but are around the stoppage are drawn in closer. The ump then throws the ball up straight away which gives no time for those to clear the stoppage and reset. If the umps call ball ups quicker while then less players will be drawn to the contest, clearing congestion. His views anyway (which I agree with, although I don't really like whistlehappy umps)

Bully

Quote from: GoLions16 on June 20, 2014, 11:28:17 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 20, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on June 20, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
Yeah but Buddy was getting raped. Hope Rance used protection. The umpiring has been terrible for every team. Can't do much about it.


^^^^This


and

Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:05:45 PM
Kennedy butchered the ball tonight, I couldn't care less if Cotchin kicked the ball short, at least they hit the mark. Absolute robbery if you ask me, I bet he gets coaches votes tonight, JPK will get nothing of the sort.

Cotchin 66% and 21 uncontested touches vs 58% and 17 CP's, 7 clearances and 12 tackles. CD hate short kicks, especially when it comes from and UP. Plus if you are averaging 6m a possession I don't know if those are exactly effective kicks. JPK was still racking them up when it was close in the last, Cotchin went missing

Let's just see who gets the coaches votes shall we, and pulling up stats like this doesn't excuse the fact he had 13 points taken away from his 3 quarter time score. Absolute joke.
It does though? That's how SC works. If you're amazing for the first 3 quarters and a half of a game, then go missing when the game is up for grabs, you are always going to lose points. Every single time.

13 points is robbery, Cotch was BOG for 3 quarters and at least deserved to hold his ground. The last couple of weeks have been ridiculous, Hurn getting 40 points for a mark, McGovern scoring more points than JJK and the list goes on.

Rusty00

Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 20, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on June 20, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
Yeah but Buddy was getting raped. Hope Rance used protection. The umpiring has been terrible for every team. Can't do much about it.


^^^^This


and

Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:05:45 PM
Kennedy butchered the ball tonight, I couldn't care less if Cotchin kicked the ball short, at least they hit the mark. Absolute robbery if you ask me, I bet he gets coaches votes tonight, JPK will get nothing of the sort.

Cotchin 66% and 21 uncontested touches vs 58% and 17 CP's, 7 clearances and 12 tackles. CD hate short kicks, especially when it comes from and UP. Plus if you are averaging 6m a possession I don't know if those are exactly effective kicks. JPK was still racking them up when it was close in the last, Cotchin went missing

Let's just see who gets the coaches votes shall we, and pulling up stats like this doesn't excuse the fact he had 13 points taken away from his 3 quarter time score. Absolute joke.
Coaches votes prove nothing regarding SC scoring.

It's the same scoring system for everyone and it's the same scoring system that's been used for years. You're wasting your time complaining about it.

GoLions

Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:33:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 20, 2014, 11:28:17 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 20, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on June 20, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
Yeah but Buddy was getting raped. Hope Rance used protection. The umpiring has been terrible for every team. Can't do much about it.


^^^^This


and

Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:05:45 PM
Kennedy butchered the ball tonight, I couldn't care less if Cotchin kicked the ball short, at least they hit the mark. Absolute robbery if you ask me, I bet he gets coaches votes tonight, JPK will get nothing of the sort.

Cotchin 66% and 21 uncontested touches vs 58% and 17 CP's, 7 clearances and 12 tackles. CD hate short kicks, especially when it comes from and UP. Plus if you are averaging 6m a possession I don't know if those are exactly effective kicks. JPK was still racking them up when it was close in the last, Cotchin went missing

Let's just see who gets the coaches votes shall we, and pulling up stats like this doesn't excuse the fact he had 13 points taken away from his 3 quarter time score. Absolute joke.
It does though? That's how SC works. If you're amazing for the first 3 quarters and a half of a game, then go missing when the game is up for grabs, you are always going to lose points. Every single time.

13 points is robbery, Cotch was BOG for 3 quarters and at least deserved to hold his ground. The last couple of weeks have been ridiculous, Hurn getting 40 points for a mark, McGovern scoring more points than JJK and the list goes on.
Then don't play SC.

Bully

Quote from: Rusty00 on June 20, 2014, 11:33:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 20, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on June 20, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
Yeah but Buddy was getting raped. Hope Rance used protection. The umpiring has been terrible for every team. Can't do much about it.


^^^^This


and

Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:05:45 PM
Kennedy butchered the ball tonight, I couldn't care less if Cotchin kicked the ball short, at least they hit the mark. Absolute robbery if you ask me, I bet he gets coaches votes tonight, JPK will get nothing of the sort.

Cotchin 66% and 21 uncontested touches vs 58% and 17 CP's, 7 clearances and 12 tackles. CD hate short kicks, especially when it comes from and UP. Plus if you are averaging 6m a possession I don't know if those are exactly effective kicks. JPK was still racking them up when it was close in the last, Cotchin went missing

Let's just see who gets the coaches votes shall we, and pulling up stats like this doesn't excuse the fact he had 13 points taken away from his 3 quarter time score. Absolute joke.
Coaches votes prove nothing regarding SC scoring.

It's the same scoring system for everyone and it's the same scoring system that's been used for years. You're wasting your time complaining about it.

We all complain about it from time to time, no need to be all high and mighty.

Bully

Quote from: GoLions16 on June 20, 2014, 11:35:11 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:33:31 PM
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 20, 2014, 11:28:17 PM
Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:15:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 20, 2014, 11:09:20 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on June 20, 2014, 11:04:21 PM
Yeah but Buddy was getting raped. Hope Rance used protection. The umpiring has been terrible for every team. Can't do much about it.


^^^^This


and

Quote from: Bully on June 20, 2014, 11:05:45 PM
Kennedy butchered the ball tonight, I couldn't care less if Cotchin kicked the ball short, at least they hit the mark. Absolute robbery if you ask me, I bet he gets coaches votes tonight, JPK will get nothing of the sort.

Cotchin 66% and 21 uncontested touches vs 58% and 17 CP's, 7 clearances and 12 tackles. CD hate short kicks, especially when it comes from and UP. Plus if you are averaging 6m a possession I don't know if those are exactly effective kicks. JPK was still racking them up when it was close in the last, Cotchin went missing

Let's just see who gets the coaches votes shall we, and pulling up stats like this doesn't excuse the fact he had 13 points taken away from his 3 quarter time score. Absolute joke.
It does though? That's how SC works. If you're amazing for the first 3 quarters and a half of a game, then go missing when the game is up for grabs, you are always going to lose points. Every single time.

13 points is robbery, Cotch was BOG for 3 quarters and at least deserved to hold his ground. The last couple of weeks have been ridiculous, Hurn getting 40 points for a mark, McGovern scoring more points than JJK and the list goes on.
Then don't play SC.

So I take it you'll forever hold your silence when you feel slightly aggrieved, nice to know we've got a bunch of empathisers tonight. Have a good night. 

SydneyRox

was not pretty at all, tigers played really well. Horrible horrible horrible umpiring, but both teams got shower calls against, so i guess it all evens out.

Buddy was fantastic, did not stop trying.

quinny88

Quote from: SydneyRox on June 20, 2014, 11:43:45 PM
was not pretty at all, tigers played really well. Horrible horrible horrible umpiring, but both teams got shower calls against, so i guess it all evens out.

Buddy was fantastic, did not stop trying.

It's not the ones that were paid that I was pissed off about but the ones they missed.
Buddy fending off miles square in the middle of the face.
Buddy receiving a handball a foot over the boundary line and it not being called out.
Richards caught red handed holding the ball in the forward pocket not paid.
Deledios clear mark not paid

All of these were late calls that could have and would have impacted the result of the game.
I guess that's why they get highlighted more and are more frustrating

SydneyRox

yeah, no arguement with too many of those, except richards HTB

but buddy got legged at least twice, held a couple more as well. parker and rampe got high hits that should have been paid and they also seemed to put the HTB rule away for this game

Mailman the 2nd

What frustrates me is now they're going to try and stop the "rolling maul" by creating another useless rule like zones, rather than fixing the actual problem, which is the umpire has no clue what to whistle for

quinny88

Can anyone tell me Petterd stats please.

Including D/E and Clangers

Mat0369

11 touches, 6 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 cp's, 6 up's, 54.5% DE, 0 clangers, 1 mark, 1 hitout, 2 clearances, 9 tackles and a behind.

quinny88

Quote from: Mat0369 on June 21, 2014, 12:48:39 AM
11 touches, 6 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 cp's, 6 up's, 54.5% DE, 0 clangers, 1 mark, 1 hitout, 2 clearances, 9 tackles and a behind.

Thanks mat.
And does anyone know who he was tagging? kept hearing he was playing a run with role but never noticed who it was on

Mat0369

They said he was going with JPK but I couldn't see it since JPK was generally first to the ball and wrapped up by about 4 different guys.