NBA Season 2014-2015

[Master Q]

OKC obviously should be rated higher than Cleveland too, due to having 2 top 5 guys.

I want to cry  :'(

[Jay]

OKC obviously should be rated higher than Cleveland too, due to having 2 top 5 guys.

I want to cry  :'(

Who do you have better than Westbrook who isn't named Durant or Lebron? I think an argument could be made for Westbrook at 3 :-X

[Andrew3747]

I totally understand the not having a big which is huge matt, ( I have stated this before many times) Love is def not the answer though. Another huge USG player. This is LBJ though. Taking mediocre teams to eliteness is what he does best.

Sportsbet, Befair all have cavs 5.30 to spurs 5.50. I realise how shower the aussie market is in betting, however its not just the aussie market. Its global.


lolbrook @ 3.

Davis, Paul are clearly better than w'brook. Love, BG, LMA, DMC, Melo, Curry, Dirk are all in the same bracket as westbrook, maybe a few more. Brook isn't even the best PG.

[Mat0369]

What Love does that the guys currently there don't do is get boards and stretch the floor. That is why Bosh was so critical in Miami, he was able to stretch the floor and create driving lanes for LeBron. No one on the Cavs does that.

[Master Q]

OKC obviously should be rated higher than Cleveland too, due to having 2 top 5 guys.

I want to cry  :'(

Who do you have better than Westbrook who isn't named Durant or Lebron? I think an argument could be made for Westbrook at 3 :-X

I am going to cut myself.

CP3, Paul George, Melo, Noah, Rose (when fit), Aldridge, Curry, Cousins and Love are all better. Maybe even Parker, Duncan, Wall and Harden.

[Andrew3747]

Love also takes stupid shots and applies no pressure and is a walking platform to post up on. Yeah offensively he is huge and would be a sick addition, but they really need that anchor in a Noah, Davis, Nene, Horford, Gasol etc etc. That would be huge for them.

[Jay]

lolbrook @ 3.

Davis, Paul are clearly better than w'brook. Love, BG, LMA, DMC, Melo, Curry, Dirk are all in the same bracket as westbrook, maybe a few more. Brook isn't even the best PG.

Davis will be 3 but surely you can't put him there yet. He hasn't played enough.

Russ is on the same tier as Davis, Love, Griffin, Melo, PG and Curry. There's no clear 3 but it for sure is one of those guys.

[Andrew3747]

Not will be. Is. Davis is huge man.

[Jay]

OKC obviously should be rated higher than Cleveland too, due to having 2 top 5 guys.

I want to cry  :'(

Who do you have better than Westbrook who isn't named Durant or Lebron? I think an argument could be made for Westbrook at 3 :-X

I am going to cut myself.

CP3, Paul George, Melo, Noah, Rose (when fit), Aldridge, Curry, Cousins and Love are all better. Maybe even Parker, Duncan, Wall and Harden.

Guess you didn't watch much playoffs :-X Westbrook was insane man.

Sure he's not a true PG and maybe he isn't a good fit with KD but his game is incredible.

[Master Q]

Oh yeah I watched the playoffs. Westbrook is by far the most overrated player in the league.

Averaged 4.5 turnovers in the regular season (3rd in the league), 4.4 in the playoffs. Scored plenty in the playoffs due to the fact he chucked up more than 14 shots every game.  Terrible FG%. Once went 6-24. Terrible decision making. Hot and cold from 3, shot like 0.31% in the regular season or something like that. Led the league in USG. Stats make him look better than he actually is.

Racks up stats but that's because he is a ball hog.

[Mat0369]

Love has a high usage because he is the only guy on that team that can shoot. He is forced to jack up bad shots because teams collapse on him due to being the go to guy/only weapon on that team. They brought in Kevin Martin to be another scoring option but he was either injured or taking bad shots of his own. Put him with another quality scorer and it is a different story. He will rack up boards and create for his team mates. He is a quality passing big guy as well, offensively he is huge, defensively he struggles with the big strong guys, but he makes up for it with all the other stuff he does, especially on the boards where he is the best rebounding power forward in the league. LeBron's greatest asset is his ability to drive, if you add Love in it stretches the floor and creates lanes for him to drive into. If the Cavs pull off a Love trade, I will agree they are favourites, until then the championship is still heading out West.

[Andrew3747]

Love has a high usage because he is the only guy on that team that can shoot. He is forced to jack up bad shots because teams collapse on him due to being the go to guy/only weapon on that team. They brought in Kevin Martin to be another scoring option but he was either injured or taking bad shots of his own. Put him with another quality scorer and it is a different story. He will rack up boards and create for his team mates. He is a quality passing big guy as well, offensively he is huge, defensively he struggles with the big strong guys, but he makes up for it with all the other stuff he does, especially on the boards where he is the best rebounding power forward in the league. LeBron's greatest asset is his ability to drive, if you add Love in it stretches the floor and creates lanes for him to drive into. If the Cavs pull off a Love trade, I will agree they are favourites, until then the championship is still heading out West.

Just feel with Irving+LBJ, they don't need another offensive option. Yeah, spreading the floor is nice, but when you have LBJ getting to the rim with ease, its not that big of a deal. He is the best offensive PF in the game with ease, but there is a reason why the Wolves haven't made the playoffs with Love. Yeah the Wolves are awful, but with someone like Love, they should be making the playoffs. They should be better than Dallas, Phoenix etc. Love's lack of a 2 way game is what is costing them.

[Mat0369]

Love has missed chunks of the last 3 seasons through injury, but you look at the team around him in a conference that is stacked, there is a reason he isn't making the playoffs. Rubio is the second best player on that team but struggles to score more then 10 points a game. They brought in a broken down Brandon Roy, Chase Budinger and Kirilenko 2 seasons ago as their big FA aquisitions. Pekovic is a nice piece but I don't think he works well with Love. They don't compliment each other at all since Pekovic doesn't play a hell of a lot of D either. If the Wolves were in the East they would be in the playoffs every season (would have been the 8 seed last season) due to KLove, but out West you need more then 1 player. The Suns are building a decent team on the back of their 2 PG lineup and working around spacing the floor. Dallas might have an old Dirk and Marion, but they have still had better role players then the Wolves which keep them in contention for the 8 seed.

[Jay]

Oh yeah I watched the playoffs. Westbrook is by far the most overrated player in the league.

Averaged 4.5 turnovers in the regular season (3rd in the league), 4.4 in the playoffs. Scored plenty in the playoffs due to the fact he chucked up more than 14 shots every game.  Terrible FG%. Once went 6-24. Terrible decision making. Hot and cold from 3, shot like 0.31% in the regular season or something like that. Led the league in USG. Stats make him look better than he actually is.

Racks up stats but that's because he is a ball hog.

First off, we all know that Westbrook is a critical piece to OKC - last year without him they got knocked out 2nd round so lets just establish that they need Westbrook to win.

I think Westbrook's inflated turnover stats are because he's being forced to play out of position, I still see him as a natural SG. And he actually played very well next to Reggie Jackson when those two shared the floor together. Its no secret that Durant went missing often during the playoffs, so Westbrook was relied upon to carry the burden and he put up 27 8 and 7.

Tbh I love Westbrook's mental game, he's got a crazy will to win and on the court you can easily tell he's the leader of that OKC team. So yeah I really rate his intangibles. Averages 7 assists a game over his career so its hard to call him selfish.

Sure, he's got his flaws e.g. poor 3pt shooting and high turnovers but he's still young and is playing under a very average coach. I just respect the fire he plays with.. This season will be huge for him.

[Andrew3747]

The elite talent of Love alone should be enough though. Even if he gets swept in the first round.