NBA Season 2014-2015

[RiOtChEsS]

Lowry staying in Toronto for 4yr 48m...
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11171190/kyle-lowry-agrees-4-year-48-million-contract-toronto-raptors

If LeBron wants max and Bosh n Wade arent taking significantly less we arent getting much better as this video shows
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11167103

[Mat0369]

Mat i cant be any clearer when i say Drafted While Injured he wasnt "drafted while injured"

Same with Blake, he was drafted and hurt his knee in preseason, missed all his first year...

It doesn't specify with Aldrige, it says he had offseason shoulder surgery, it doesn't say if it was college offseason heading into the draft which means he WAS drafted while injured or if he injured it once he got to the Blazers. To be honest, other then Noel, Randle and Embiid I haven't found anyone, this could be due to guys opting to stay in college an extra season once they do get injured so it won't hurt their draft stock or guys simply staying healthy through their final year of college ball to either get injured in their first NBA pre-season or 2nd year of basketball. The other case is using the Blair example again, he had injury issues in HS but stayed healthy in college.

[Mat0369]

Linsanity could be going to Philly in a cap dump so they can go after Melo. It would be Lin and either their pick from this season (Capela) or potentially a first from next season either being the Pelicans pick again or their own.

[Master Q]

Green and Bass aren't really role players... but I agree generally.

They certainly are... Do one or two things really well to help the team. http://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nba/role-player.aspx

There is absolutely no way Jeff Green is a role player. He averaged the most points on our team last season and was the only player to start 82 games.

Stop talking shower Jay, Green was our man pre-Rondo last season. Not saying he did well, but he was certainly not a role player.

[Master Q]

Mat i cant be any clearer when i say Drafted While Injured he wasnt "drafted while injured"

Same with Blake, he was drafted and hurt his knee in preseason, missed all his first year...

It doesn't specify with Aldrige, it says he had offseason shoulder surgery, it doesn't say if it was college offseason heading into the draft which means he WAS drafted while injured or if he injured it once he got to the Blazers. To be honest, other then Noel, Randle and Embiid I haven't found anyone, this could be due to guys opting to stay in college an extra season once they do get injured so it won't hurt their draft stock or guys simply staying healthy through their final year of college ball to either get injured in their first NBA pre-season or 2nd year of basketball. The other case is using the Blair example again, he had injury issues in HS but stayed healthy in college.

Sullinger was injured when drafted I think... slipped to #20 iirc

[Jay]

Green and Bass aren't really role players... but I agree generally.

They certainly are... Do one or two things really well to help the team. http://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nba/role-player.aspx

There is absolutely no way Jeff Green is a role player. He averaged the most points on our team last season and was the only player to start 82 games.

Stop talking shower Jay, Green was our man pre-Rondo last season. Not saying he did well, but he was certainly not a role player.

Hate to bring it up, but we only won 25 games last year... Doesn't look like Jeff Green being 'the man' really contributed to much? Everyone knows he is just a role player on a good team. Sticking him on a shower team and letting him shoot 14 times a night doesn't make him any better than a role player.

[RiOtChEsS]

Mat i cant be any clearer when i say Drafted While Injured he wasnt "drafted while injured"

Same with Blake, he was drafted and hurt his knee in preseason, missed all his first year...

It doesn't specify with Aldrige, it says he had offseason shoulder surgery, it doesn't say if it was college offseason heading into the draft which means he WAS drafted while injured or if he injured it once he got to the Blazers. To be honest, other then Noel, Randle and Embiid I haven't found anyone, this could be due to guys opting to stay in college an extra season once they do get injured so it won't hurt their draft stock or guys simply staying healthy through their final year of college ball to either get injured in their first NBA pre-season or 2nd year of basketball. The other case is using the Blair example again, he had injury issues in HS but stayed healthy in college.

no ur link does not say he was drafted while injured, nor do any other reports, there is a heap of time between the draft and the start of the season including workouts, scrimmages and summer league, there is no certainty that he was drafted injured ur just desperate to make a point, Philly r drafting injured players i wanted a precedent that gives some sort of idea as to the success or not of it. PROVE to me that LaMarcus Aldridge was injured and id be ecstatic that it has been done "successfully"

[RiOtChEsS]

Clips want Paul Pierce
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11171639/los-angeles-clippers-talk-deal-brooklyn-nets-paul-pierce

[Master Q]

Green and Bass aren't really role players... but I agree generally.

They certainly are... Do one or two things really well to help the team. http://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nba/role-player.aspx

There is absolutely no way Jeff Green is a role player. He averaged the most points on our team last season and was the only player to start 82 games.

Stop talking shower Jay, Green was our man pre-Rondo last season. Not saying he did well, but he was certainly not a role player.

Hate to bring it up, but we only won 25 games last year... Doesn't look like Jeff Green being 'the man' really contributed to much? Everyone knows he is just a role player on a good team. Sticking him on a shower team and letting him shoot 14 times a night doesn't make him any better than a role player.

Whether he performed well or not is irrelevant. He was the star.

Everyone does know he is just a role player on a good team, but he's not on a good team, so therefore he isn't a role player. Can't spell it out anymore, so don't shift the goal posts  :P

[Jay]

Clips want Paul Pierce
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11171639/los-angeles-clippers-talk-deal-brooklyn-nets-paul-pierce

Was always gonna happen, makes a lot of sense. I got the feeling Pierce wants to finish on a contender so going where Doc is coaching is a likely destination. I think he'll find it hard to leave KG though, after all, Pierce is a very loyal guy.

Green and Bass aren't really role players... but I agree generally.

They certainly are... Do one or two things really well to help the team. http://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nba/role-player.aspx

There is absolutely no way Jeff Green is a role player. He averaged the most points on our team last season and was the only player to start 82 games.

Stop talking shower Jay, Green was our man pre-Rondo last season. Not saying he did well, but he was certainly not a role player.

Hate to bring it up, but we only won 25 games last year... Doesn't look like Jeff Green being 'the man' really contributed to much? Everyone knows he is just a role player on a good team. Sticking him on a shower team and letting him shoot 14 times a night doesn't make him any better than a role player.

Whether he performed well or not is irrelevant. He was the star.

Everyone does know he is just a role player on a good team, but he's not on a good team, so therefore he isn't a role player. Can't spell it out anymore, so don't shift the goal posts  :P

Because the 'star' shot 41% from the field and didn't crack our top 3 in win shares... ::)

Jeff Green's skill set in a vacuum is just a role player. I'm sticking to that.

[Mat0369]

no ur link does not say he was drafted while injured, nor do any other reports, there is a heap of time between the draft and the start of the season including workouts, scrimmages and summer league, there is no certainty that he was drafted injured ur just desperate to make a point, Philly r drafting injured players i wanted a precedent that gives some sort of idea as to the success or not of it. PROVE to me that LaMarcus Aldridge was injured and id be ecstatic that it has been done "successfully"

My point is you take the best talent on the board with superstar potential. Embiid was the best talent in this years draft, Noel was regarded as the best player in last years draft. To pass up on these guys because they are injured going into the draft is ridiculous. There is no proof that it will be successful and there is no proof that it won't. In regards to Aldridge we are talking drafts dating back how many years now? Reading his Wikipedia it says this

Aldridge missed the first seven games of the 2006 - 07 NBA season due to off-season shoulder surgery, but returned ahead of schedule due in part to an injury to fellow rookie teammate Brandon Roy.

His draft bio also had him listed as injury prone. That is about as close as we have got to finding one player other then Sullinger (going off Q's info), Randle (foot injury), Noel and Embiid. Since most of those guys are recent, name me someone else?

Guys would generally keep playing in college if they got injured, Robbie Hummel is an example, he had back issues and just stayed in college until he had a healthy season.

You also choose to exclude BG when talking about these guys. The fact is he got injured before the season, it shouldn't matter if it happened just before the draft or just after it happened. Regardless of who you take there is a chance they get injured. If it was discovered that LeBron had a foot fracture weeks before the draft would you still not have taken him?

EDIT: Copy paste F'ed up on the wiki quote, thank F for back tab

[Jay]

Love this  ;D ;D

[RiOtChEsS]

Love this  ;D ;D

haha classic ;D

no ur link does not say he was drafted while injured, nor do any other reports, there is a heap of time between the draft and the start of the season including workouts, scrimmages and summer league, there is no certainty that he was drafted injured ur just desperate to make a point, Philly r drafting injured players i wanted a precedent that gives some sort of idea as to the success or not of it. PROVE to me that LaMarcus Aldridge was injured and id be ecstatic that it has been done "successfully"

My point is you take the best talent on the board with superstar potential. Embiid was the best talent in this years draft, Noel was regarded as the best player in last years draft. To pass up on these guys because they are injured going into the draft is ridiculous. There is no proof that it will be successful and there is no proof that it won't. In regards to Aldridge we are talking drafts dating back how many years now? Reading his Wikipedia it says this

Aldridge missed the first seven games of the 2006 - 07 NBA season due to off-season shoulder surgery, but returned ahead of schedule due in part to an injury to fellow rookie teammate Brandon Roy.

His draft bio also had him listed as injury prone. That is about as close as we have got to finding one player other then Sullinger (going off Q's info), Randle (foot injury), Noel and Embiid. Since most of those guys are recent, name me someone else?

Guys would generally keep playing in college if they got injured, Robbie Hummel is an example, he had back issues and just stayed in college until he had a healthy season.

You also choose to exclude BG when talking about these guys. The fact is he got injured before the season, it shouldn't matter if it happened just before the draft or just after it happened. Regardless of who you take there is a chance they get injured. If it was discovered that LeBron had a foot fracture weeks before the draft would you still not have taken him?

EDIT: Copy paste F'ed up on the wiki quote, thank F for back tab

Mat i appreciate ur efforts, i too am trying to find proof of injured players being drafted as lottery picks, id like to see it has worked in the past bcos i dont think it is a good strategy, id like to be proved wrong.

Yeah Sullinger had back issues but im not sure of the timing, Jayman would have bcos he was following it closely and wanted him.

Across any sport im doubt many top ten picks have been drafted on crutches, or unable to play their 1st season #PayingOvers

[Jay]

Just to weigh on in this... For what it's worth, Sullinger was projected as a top 5 pick until the doctors 'red flagged' him due to a bad back. He slipped into the 20s and Danny Ainge swooped, and I like the pick - was worth a shot that late in the first round.

Only started a dozen or so games for us in his rookie season before surgery was required. But this past season he was okay injury wise, just needs to get in better shape. His first full pre-season in the NBA will work wonders for Sully.

[Mat0369]

Just for you Jay

Joel-Hans Embiid @JoelEmbiid 

Been a day.. still waiting for @KingJames  to answer me like (TAPE DELAY GUYS)  how can you do that to me? @espn