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Started by Bill Manspeaker, June 10, 2014, 03:11:21 PM

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PowerBug

And that's why you don't try to chase the runs ;D Pakistan collapse and New Zealand win. Doesn't help when 8-11 are not even able to block out a few balls and the set batsman can't farm the strike well.
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Ringo

England 283 & 123/6 (54.5 ov)
India 417

Looks like Australia are not the only team who can not play spin in India.  England still need 11 runs with 4 wickets left to make India bat again

shaker

Quote from: Ringo on November 29, 2016, 05:10:12 PM
England 283 & 123/6 (54.5 ov)
India 417

Looks like Australia are not the only team who can not play spin in India.  England still need 11 runs with 4 wickets left to make India bat again

Yes Ringo but I'm sure we will hear some excuses as to why this happened and we will definitely hear how shower the Aussies are but it does not hide the fact the Poms are just as shower  :P

Jukes

You guys want to hear something funny?

Cricket in Australia has 1.31 million players; cricket in England and Wales has 844,000 players (sources: Cricket.com.au, Telegraph.co.uk).

And yet England has won four of the last five Ashes series, won the series in South Africa 2-1 (SA winning the fourth and meaningless test) in 2015/16 while Aus lost at home to South Africa 2-1 in 2016 (only managing to win the third and meaningless test), and won the 2012/13 series in India - Aus haven't even won a test in India since October 2004 and have just the one series win there in the last 45 years.

Burn

PowerBug

Quote from: shaker on November 29, 2016, 09:49:32 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 29, 2016, 05:10:12 PM
England 283 & 123/6 (54.5 ov)
India 417

Looks like Australia are not the only team who can not play spin in India.  England still need 11 runs with 4 wickets left to make India bat again

Yes Ringo but I'm sure we will hear some excuses as to why this happened and we will definitely hear how shower the Aussies are but it does not hide the fact the Poms are just as shower  :P
I actually feel like England have done okay. But when you'r eplaying away from home in those tough conditions, if you're given an opening you have to take it. England scored 537 in the first innings of the first test, and let India score too many and allow them to draw the match. And we had them 156/5 in the first innings of this test and let Ashwin, Jadeja and Yadav make 217 runs between them to take a big lead.

Those are the chances that a visiting team can't afford to let slip.
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Ringo

Really just highlighting how difficult it for any country to win in India these days on their spinning pitches with spin bowlers way above the visiting teams.

Australia had chances too and as you say have to take them.

elephants

Quote from: Jukes on November 29, 2016, 10:22:56 PM
You guys want to hear something funny?

Cricket in Australia has 1.31 million players; cricket in England and Wales has 844,000 players (sources: Cricket.com.au, Telegraph.co.uk).

And yet England has won four of the last five Ashes series, won the series in South Africa 2-1 (SA winning the fourth and meaningless test) in 2015/16 while Aus lost at home to South Africa 2-1 in 2016 (only managing to win the third and meaningless test), and won the 2012/13 series in India - Aus haven't even won a test in India since October 2004 and have just the one series win there in the last 45 years.

Burn

Meh number of participants is irrelevant when you've got an insanely larger talent pool. Only those who specialise in cricket play it, whereas in Australia its more a cultural thing.

A contributing factor is the showere weather of England making football/rugby is more popular than cricket, if they had some nice weather more often than once every decade the figures wouldn't be different imo.

Although I am starting to compare the two nations in terms of quality of living, which is not relevant to the topic, and also a no-brainer. If I wanted to live somewhere over-crowded and flowering freezing I'd set up camp in my local supermarket freezer.

Jukes

Quote from: elephants on November 30, 2016, 04:40:57 AM
Quote from: Jukes on November 29, 2016, 10:22:56 PM
You guys want to hear something funny?

Cricket in Australia has 1.31 million players; cricket in England and Wales has 844,000 players (sources: Cricket.com.au, Telegraph.co.uk).

And yet England has won four of the last five Ashes series, won the series in South Africa 2-1 (SA winning the fourth and meaningless test) in 2015/16 while Aus lost at home to South Africa 2-1 in 2016 (only managing to win the third and meaningless test), and won the 2012/13 series in India - Aus haven't even won a test in India since October 2004 and have just the one series win there in the last 45 years.

Burn

Meh number of participants is irrelevant when you've got an insanely larger talent pool. Only those who specialise in cricket play it, whereas in Australia its more a cultural thing.

A contributing factor is the showere weather of England making football/rugby is more popular than cricket, if they had some nice weather more often than once every decade the figures wouldn't be different imo.

Although I am starting to compare the two nations in terms of quality of living, which is not relevant to the topic, and also a no-brainer. If I wanted to live somewhere over-crowded and flowering freezing I'd set up camp in my local supermarket freezer.

Not really, seeing as most of the athletic talent in the UK goes to soccer (if you're small/thin/quick) or rugby (if you're bigger) unless you're specifically bred for cricket from a young age and/or are no good at soccer or rugby.

But either way mate, having 50% more players yet losing most Ashes series and getting BTFO by SA and India (away) every time isn't a good look.

Quote from: Ringo on November 29, 2016, 10:30:25 PM
Really just highlighting how difficult it for any country to win in India these days on their spinning pitches with spin bowlers way above the visiting teams.

Australia had chances too and as you say have to take them.

Haven't lost a home test match since December 2012 I believe - a very long time. ICC should definitely bring in some things that favour the away side to make contests more interesting, but I'd think it's fair to say the BCCI, CA etc would have a bit of a blow up :P

Bill Manspeaker

debut ton for Jennings. England 2/196

Jukes

Bradman average: 99.94
Jennings average: 112

Bradman more like BADman am I right

Ringo

When Jennings has played 80 test and still averages 112 will agree.

Jukes

Quote from: Ringo on December 09, 2016, 10:19:48 AM
When Jennings has played 80 test and still averages 112 will agree.

50/50 chance mate ;)


Just hopefully will turn 288/5 with Stokesy and Buttler at the crease and a pair of competent batsmen in Woakesy and Rashid to come into a 400+ score today, 500 ideal :P

PowerBug

India getting decisions overturned by DRS in their favour :(
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PowerBug

#733
End of over 125 (maiden) England 385/8

Decent session there 97/3. Buttler still going. I wanted a score beginning with a 4 and we'll get close to that, Buttler and Ball have put on 51 at almost 4 per over for the 9th wicket :)

"the pitch offering plenty to the bowlers" - Must turn a 100 run lead if we are gonna win this test.
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Jukes

#734
Here's a good stat - Rooty has scored a 50 in each of his 11 tests against India (including today's), the most by any cricketer against any team (next most is 9). He's also the first overseas batsman to hit 5 50s in India in 35 years. And Cooky has hit 11k runs!

Also, Bairstow needs 31 runs in the second innings to hit 1500 test runs for the year, what a beast. Only happened 8 times ever, and he's just the second keeper to top 1,000 (Flower, 1,045)