How can Supercoach Sub Fiasco be fixed 2015

[GoLions]

Obviously could go back to Friday lockout, but as justaverage said, this means more exposure for HS.

Also, if they did go back, I can guarantee you there'd be a lot of people complaining again because they're no longer allowed to sub off guys who are subs/late outs. Or maybe they trade in a premium who is a late out as well. You can't please everyone.

[Slashers]

How about if a player starts as sub then the system will automatically take an emergency score if greater than what the green vest player scores.
Red vest is part of the game, so stays as is. Mostly just whoever is injured or underperforming.
Yes, the green vest ruins SC. That player more often than not has zero impact on the game, so SC punishes them further.

[GoLions]

How about if a player starts as sub then the system will automatically take an emergency score if greater than what the green vest player scores.
Red vest is part of the game, so stays as is. Mostly just whoever is injured or underperforming.
Yes, the green vest ruins SC. That player more often than not has zero impact on the game, so SC punishes them further.

Green vest is also a part of the game. You shouldn't get the higher emg score. What if you have someone on the field who just does flower all, let's say Montagna today. And you have Lewis Taylor as emg. Should you then get Taylor's score?

The answer is "No" btw.

Unless they go back to Friday night full lockout, there isn't anything that can or should be done about players getting the green vest. The only reasonable thing I could possibly think of would be giving them a score based on their points per minute for that particular game. But then that flowers shower up if they have a inflated score prior to it being adjusted.

[RaisyDaisy]

Going back to Friday lockouts would be disastrous

There is always going to be some people that get disadvantaged with any suggestion that gets tabled

[TheMoops]

Easy solution IMO. Should be contingency commands you can put in place before the round starts

eg. You could pre-select a swap of JKH for Lewis Taylor (your emergency) IF selected as sub. If he's not it won't swap.

I'm no expert on website programming but wouldn't have thought this would be THAT hard of a feature to include.


If not the above, perhaps the SC app could send you a notification 90 mins before the game saying 'Player X has been selected as sub - access SC app now to change!'. Or, even better, could have 'Player X has been selected as sub - slide to change with selected emergency player' so it could be done all off the home screen to save time

[GoLions]

Easy solution IMO. Should be contingency commands you can put in place before the round starts

eg. You could pre-select a swap of JKH for Lewis Taylor (your emergency) IF selected as sub. If he's not it won't swap.

I'm no expert on website programming but wouldn't have thought this would be THAT hard of a feature to include.


If not the above, perhaps the SC app could send you a notification 90 mins before the game saying 'Player X has been selected as sub - access SC app now to change!'. Or, even better, could have 'Player X has been selected as sub - slide to change with selected emergency player' so it could be done all off the home screen to save time

Ok, so you field JKH. He's sub. The pre-select thing swaps him with Squizzy Taylor. Let's say JKH comes on midway through the 3rd quarter and scores 40.
The next day, Taylor is sub. He comes on in the 4th quarter and scores 20. You lose 20 points.

And if the app gave you a notification of subs, you would have to still access the internet to make the change. And if you could access the internet, then you could just check yourself anyway.

Going back to Friday lockouts would be disastrous

There is always going to be some people that get disadvantaged with any suggestion that gets tabled

Thank you.

[Slashers]

How about if a player starts as sub then the system will automatically take an emergency score if greater than what the green vest player scores.
Red vest is part of the game, so stays as is. Mostly just whoever is injured or underperforming.
Yes, the green vest ruins SC. That player more often than not has zero impact on the game, so SC punishes them further.

Green vest is also a part of the game. You shouldn't get the higher emg score. What if you have someone on the field who just does flower all, let's say Montagna today. And you have Lewis Taylor as emg. Should you then get Taylor's score?

The answer is "No" btw.

Unless they go back to Friday night full lockout, there isn't anything that can or should be done about players getting the green vest. The only reasonable thing I could possibly think of would be giving them a score based on their points per minute for that particular game. But then that flowers shower up if they have a inflated score prior to it being adjusted.

Is that what I said? No.
"if a player starts as sub" !!!!!!!! ....
Only green vest situations.
Crouch was allowed on with like 10 minutes to go... How is that fair...?
During a normal non bye round, I'd have someone on the bench who was at least allowed a full game ffs.
It's stupid and frustrating. Anyway, everyone woud be in the same boat, just less stressed.

[GoLions]

How about if a player starts as sub then the system will automatically take an emergency score if greater than what the green vest player scores.
Red vest is part of the game, so stays as is. Mostly just whoever is injured or underperforming.
Yes, the green vest ruins SC. That player more often than not has zero impact on the game, so SC punishes them further.

Green vest is also a part of the game. You shouldn't get the higher emg score. What if you have someone on the field who just does flower all, let's say Montagna today. And you have Lewis Taylor as emg. Should you then get Taylor's score?

The answer is "No" btw.

Unless they go back to Friday night full lockout, there isn't anything that can or should be done about players getting the green vest. The only reasonable thing I could possibly think of would be giving them a score based on their points per minute for that particular game. But then that flowers shower up if they have a inflated score prior to it being adjusted.

Is that what I said? No.
"if a player starts as sub" !!!!!!!! ....
Only green vest situations.
Crouch was allowed on with like 10 minutes to go... How is that fair...?
During a normal non bye round, I'd have someone on the bench who was at least allowed a full game ffs.
It's stupid and frustrating. Anyway, everyone woud be in the same boat, just less stressed.

I know you didn't say that, but it's the same concept. You can't say red vest is a part of the game so it shouldn't be changed, but then say that scores affected by the green vest should be altered. What if Crouch comes in 10 mins into a game after people sub him off cause he's the sub? What if he comes on at any point and gets injured like Acres did today? What if I eat my cereal with apple juice instead of milk?

There is no need to change it. Not everyone is going to be pleased no matter what they do. So just stop whining about it. Like you said just then, everyone has to deal with it. I'm sorry if this all comes off as me being a complete dick, but I just don't see any logical reason to change how the scoring works for sub affected players at this point in time.

[RaisyDaisy]

Thank you.

For what? Sarcastic?

[GoLions]

Thank you.

For what? Sarcastic?

For saying what I've been trying to say this whole time haha

[Pokerface]

How about if a player starts as sub then the system will automatically take an emergency score if greater than what the green vest player scores.
Red vest is part of the game, so stays as is. Mostly just whoever is injured or underperforming.
Yes, the green vest ruins SC. That player more often than not has zero impact on the game, so SC punishes them further.

Green vest is also a part of the game. You shouldn't get the higher emg score. What if you have someone on the field who just does flower all, let's say Montagna today. And you have Lewis Taylor as emg. Should you then get Taylor's score?

The answer is "No" btw.

Unless they go back to Friday night full lockout, there isn't anything that can or should be done about players getting the green vest. The only reasonable thing I could possibly think of would be giving them a score based on their points per minute for that particular game. But then that flowers shower up if they have a inflated score prior to it being adjusted.

Is that what I said? No.
"if a player starts as sub" !!!!!!!! ....
Only green vest situations.
Crouch was allowed on with like 10 minutes to go... How is that fair...?
During a normal non bye round, I'd have someone on the bench who was at least allowed a full game ffs.
It's stupid and frustrating. Anyway, everyone woud be in the same boat, just less stressed.

I know you didn't say that, but it's the same concept. You can't say red vest is a part of the game so it shouldn't be changed, but then say that scores affected by the green vest should be altered. What if Crouch comes in 10 mins into a game after people sub him off cause he's the sub? What if he comes on at any point and gets injured like Acres did today? What if I eat my cereal with apple juice instead of milk?

There is no need to change it. Not everyone is going to be pleased no matter what they do. So just stop whining about it. Like you said just then, everyone has to deal with it. I'm sorry if this all comes off as me being a complete dick, but I just don't see any logical reason to change how the scoring works for sub affected players at this point in time.

Wholeheartedly agree. It's the same rules for everyone. Friday lockouts were stopped because people complained about the subs. And the game isn't a community service, its a business. If they need you to visit over the weekend to make the profit for you to play it, deal with it.

[TheMoops]

Easy solution IMO. Should be contingency commands you can put in place before the round starts

eg. You could pre-select a swap of JKH for Lewis Taylor (your emergency) IF selected as sub. If he's not it won't swap.

I'm no expert on website programming but wouldn't have thought this would be THAT hard of a feature to include.


If not the above, perhaps the SC app could send you a notification 90 mins before the game saying 'Player X has been selected as sub - access SC app now to change!'. Or, even better, could have 'Player X has been selected as sub - slide to change with selected emergency player' so it could be done all off the home screen to save time

Ok, so you field JKH. He's sub. The pre-select thing swaps him with Squizzy Taylor. Let's say JKH comes on midway through the 3rd quarter and scores 40.
The next day, Taylor is sub. He comes on in the 4th quarter and scores 20. You lose 20 points.

Yeah but this is worst case scenario. 95% of the time this would help you (enormously) rather than hinder you. No system will be perfect it's about getting as close to it as possible.

[juara93]

I firmly believe there is nothing to do about the sub rule. Take it on the chin when a player gets subbed (in/out), the same way a player gets injured in the first 5 minutes, tough luck. In the end all SC teams will have players that get subbed, it should be pretty even. Anyway, how good is it picking up a player at discount cost all due to a few vests.

[ando_10]

I say the afl goes back to split round in say round 11 and have one supercoach round over 2 weeks .

[ossie85]

I say the afl goes back to split round in say round 11 and have one supercoach round over 2 weeks .

That would make way too much sense