Carlton H&A Discussion

AFEV · November 27, 2014, 10:00:24 PM

Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2014, 09:29:18 PM
Got a good one in Viojo-Rainbow.

New challenger for best name in the AFL?

Nige · November 27, 2014, 10:07:33 PM

Quote from: AFEV on November 27, 2014, 10:00:24 PM
Quote from: Nige on November 27, 2014, 09:29:18 PM
Got a good one in Viojo-Rainbow.
New challenger for best name in the AFL?

The commentators are definitely gonna love it, I think he'll become a cult hero with that name.

Mat0369 · November 27, 2014, 10:42:59 PM

At least we will have SOS next year. Well actually, I think we will make that two when the draft next season is all said and done. The Son of Serge and Son of Stephen combo will be our next great hope!!!!

Mat0369 · November 28, 2014, 02:51:16 PM

I am still pissed about last night

Vinny · November 28, 2014, 03:01:09 PM

Quote from: Mat0369 on November 28, 2014, 02:51:16 PM
I am still pissed about last night

Same man.

Mat0369 · November 28, 2014, 03:20:02 PM

The fact it was a deep KPP draft and we didn't grab either with our first two picks, had McKenzie somehow get there in the 60's and passed, yeah, still pissed.

So to sum it up

Passed on Leverde (who was considered potential top 5 a couple weeks ago), passed on Goddard (who was pushing for top 10), instead drafted a 22 year old with pace that weighs 69 kg's and we could have got him with our 2nd pick, got a half back instead of going after Lamb, drafted a fat Byron Pickett who is a back pocket with no tank and no defensive side to his game, drafted our first KPP at 60 something and he wasn't expected to get drafted in a year the KPP's were deep, passed on McKenzie who was talked about as a pick in the 19-30 range and let him slip to Richmond with like pick 70 something (yeah he was on the board and we passed). Oh and no key defender drafted either and now we are going to waste a pick on Tutt who is a dud when there are some decent kids still around and guys like both Saad's, Lambert/Marcon and a bunch of other guys available and we won't get any of those guys either. This reminds me of that season the Philadelphia Eagles drafted the 27 year old firefighter Danny Watkins with their first round pick.....

I wanted at least one KPP in the first 2 picks, if we had have gone Lavarde and Boekhorst I would have been fine with it due to the fact Laverde was so highly rated and he was there.

At least Philly won today, that made me happy.

Vinny · November 28, 2014, 03:23:58 PM

Imagine. I've said it a million times but we could have had Laverde, Lamb & McKenzie. FFS.

Mat0369 · November 28, 2014, 03:33:10 PM

Quote from: Vinny on November 28, 2014, 03:23:58 PM
Imagine. I've said it a million times but we could have had Laverde, Lamb & McKenzie. FFS.

The funny thing is when people are like "Trust Mick and the recruiting staff" then 2 minutes later "OUR RECRUITING STAFF SUCKS, THEY DRAFTED BOOTSMA AND KANE LUCASZZZZZ!!!11!!!"

I can't wait to sign SoS back

Vinny · November 28, 2014, 03:34:14 PM

Just got to wait and see I guess. Our last two first round picks have been guns in Menzel and Cripps. Fingers crossed.

The late picks are a worry though.

Mat0369 · November 28, 2014, 03:45:07 PM

I guess if we end up with a top 4 pick next year there is a chance to draft a KPP.

Actually in SOS we trust, that should become Carlton's new motto. He will look for a coach when they sack Malthouse and then he will start raping teams like he did to the Doggies in the Boyd deal. Then we will get Treloar and Shiel due to our new tank job and the fact we now have SoS and they are both Carlton supporters

Vinny · November 28, 2014, 03:52:22 PM

Haha that's something to look forward too. Wasn't really around for much of SOS but the fans love him and good to have a club legend back.

If we do go after Shiel or Treloar, the Top 5 pick is definitely gone obviously.

How good is Jack Silvagni meant to be?

Mat0369 · November 28, 2014, 04:06:13 PM

Quote from: Vinny on November 28, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
Haha that's something to look forward too. Wasn't really around for much of SOS but the fans love him and good to have a club legend back.

If we do go after Shiel or Treloar, the Top 5 pick is definitely gone obviously.

How good is Jack Silvagni meant to be?

SOS is awesome, he was one of my fav players growing up. I still hate Milburn for cleaning him out. I think I was 11 when that happened and every time I would go to the footy and Carlton played Geelong the whole crowd will boo him. He actually played a huge part in getting that St Kilda back line to play well in their premiership window and has now gone onto drafting those guns that the Giants have running around on the park.

Onto Jack, he was tearing it up in the juniors at one point, SOS had some issues with the club and it was looking increasingly likely that Jack would be a father son pick so he had to start sorting that out. Since then he has returned for a few of the functions but I think Jack's progress has slowed down because I haven't heard/read as much on him in the last year. He will be eligible to be drafted next year which I think was one of the issues with SOS coming back as a list manager. There is an obvious conflict of interest there, but if he shows enough I think they will go the Donald/Luke McDonald route on the situation. We just need to get SOS in the door

Vinny · November 28, 2014, 04:16:31 PM

Very nice man. Hopefully he gets back into it and we can draft him!

I've read a bit about him and some sources are telling me that after drafting with GWS he is taking an extended break others are tell me that he is coming to Carlton. Pretty sure the latter is happening.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/stars-finally-align-for-stephen-silvagnis-return-to-carlton-20141121-11rb9w.html

I'm a bit confused by this whole list manager thing, I can't find it on the actual staff list. Who is our current list manager? I'm aware we made a massive play for the Hawks one mid-season. So Shane Rogers is recruiting manager? I'm do confused haha.

Mat0369 · November 28, 2014, 04:32:06 PM

I don't think we have a dedicated list manager. I think the role is split between Rogers, Andy Mac and Trigg with the coaches involvement. That is why they are on the hunt to have someone in the dedicated role.

Vinny · November 28, 2014, 06:23:02 PM

Fair enough. That'd be awesome.

All we need now is Paul Roos. :P

So I've been doing some reading about these guys we drafted and spoke to Ric about Boekhorst. The reading I did was on BigFooty. There is mainly spastics on there but a few people know their stuff about these picks. Worth a read.

Doesn't look too bad actually, we did miss out on some other guns but I'm reading about Clem Smith & Jayden Foster is decent. McKenzie is the only one I'm really disappointed about, but really, there has to be a reason he went so low. Especially considering many thought he was going Pick 30.