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Started by Vinny, May 06, 2014, 05:13:30 PM

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Ricochet


SydneyRox

the more I think about it, I am open to the idea, but honestly cant see it happening.

What do the Blues have to give that the Swans will want. He is contracted until 2016 so it can only happen as a trade.

reports of being paid $400k also seem pretty high, and if thats the case means the Swans rate him, and will be loathe to let him go.


kilbluff1985

Quote from: SydneyRox on July 22, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
the more I think about it, I am open to the idea, but honestly cant see it happening.

What do the Blues have to give that the Swans will want. He is contracted until 2016 so it can only happen as a trade.

reports of being paid $400k also seem pretty high, and if thats the case means the Swans rate him, and will be loathe to let him go.

i heard he is getting that much because GWS were offering him around the same before he got drafted

Vinny

I'd love Tom Mitchell but I am not sure about 400k per season.

Mailman the 2nd

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 22, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 22, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
the more I think about it, I am open to the idea, but honestly cant see it happening.

What do the Blues have to give that the Swans will want. He is contracted until 2016 so it can only happen as a trade.

reports of being paid $400k also seem pretty high, and if thats the case means the Swans rate him, and will be loathe to let him go.

i heard he is getting that much because GWS were offering him around the same before he got drafted

But his contract is from well after he got drafted? Not really sure that's why

SydneyRox

#455
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 22, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 22, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 22, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
the more I think about it, I am open to the idea, but honestly cant see it happening.

What do the Blues have to give that the Swans will want. He is contracted until 2016 so it can only happen as a trade.

reports of being paid $400k also seem pretty high, and if thats the case means the Swans rate him, and will be loathe to let him go.

i heard he is getting that much because GWS were offering him around the same before he got drafted

But his contract is from well after he got drafted? Not really sure that's why

from memory he signed a new contract (for 4 years) mid way through his first season (2013) as a way to keep him away from prying fingers......

Ziplock

Quote from: SydneyRox on July 22, 2014, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 22, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 22, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 22, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
the more I think about it, I am open to the idea, but honestly cant see it happening.

What do the Blues have to give that the Swans will want. He is contracted until 2016 so it can only happen as a trade.

reports of being paid $400k also seem pretty high, and if thats the case means the Swans rate him, and will be loathe to let him go.

i heard he is getting that much because GWS were offering him around the same before he got drafted

But his contract is from well after he got drafted? Not really sure that's why

from memory he signed a new contract (for 4 years) mid way through his first season (2012) as a way to keep him away from prying fingers......

I swear he signed on again right after debut.... there would have been more of a big deal made if he'd signed before playing.

Mailman the 2nd

#457
Quote from: Ziplock on July 22, 2014, 06:14:00 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 22, 2014, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 22, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 22, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 22, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
the more I think about it, I am open to the idea, but honestly cant see it happening.

What do the Blues have to give that the Swans will want. He is contracted until 2016 so it can only happen as a trade.

reports of being paid $400k also seem pretty high, and if thats the case means the Swans rate him, and will be loathe to let him go.

i heard he is getting that much because GWS were offering him around the same before he got drafted

But his contract is from well after he got drafted? Not really sure that's why

from memory he signed a new contract (for 4 years) mid way through his first season (2012) as a way to keep him away from prying fingers......

I swear he signed on again right after debut.... there would have been more of a big deal made if he'd signed before playing.

Didn't play for any of 2012 because of injury, contract expires end of 2013 but after half a dozen strong games he got a new 4 year one

SydneyRox

#458
Quote from: Ziplock on July 22, 2014, 06:14:00 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 22, 2014, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 22, 2014, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 22, 2014, 05:22:54 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on July 22, 2014, 11:54:38 AM
the more I think about it, I am open to the idea, but honestly cant see it happening.

What do the Blues have to give that the Swans will want. He is contracted until 2016 so it can only happen as a trade.

reports of being paid $400k also seem pretty high, and if thats the case means the Swans rate him, and will be loathe to let him go.

i heard he is getting that much because GWS were offering him around the same before he got drafted

But his contract is from well after he got drafted? Not really sure that's why

from memory he signed a new contract (for 4 years) mid way through his first season (2013) as a way to keep him away from prying fingers......

I swear he signed on again right after debut.... there would have been more of a big deal made if he'd signed before playing.

Sorry my post is wrong should be 2013 - not 2012 (now edited away)

Yeah that sounds bout right. Debut rnd 10 after two 50+ games in the NEAFL

Also, just to clarify. Titch is still injured and not in line for any football this week.




elephants

Quote from: Ricochet on July 22, 2014, 09:09:45 AM
Quote from: elephants on July 22, 2014, 12:37:54 AM
Pfft forget Carlton. Come home Tom.
but not to WCE ;)

No way are we letting you wreck him like you wrecked Sylvia :P

Quote from: Vinny on July 22, 2014, 05:25:09 PM
I'd love Tom Mitchell but I am not sure about 400k per season.

I'd love Tom Mitchell and I am sure about 400k a season :P

Mat0369

Quote from: Vinny on July 22, 2014, 05:25:09 PM
I'd love Tom Mitchell but I am not sure about 400k per season.

I may be wrong, but under the AFL rules, we don't have to pay the full contract of that 400k. Sydney would be responsible for whatever we choose not to pay of that 400k. Carlton has been stung in the past with this rule. We have traded players to other clubs and still been forced to pay out part of the contract to make up the difference. The Fev trade was one of those cases, I think we were on the hook for 200k total and it happened in the trade for Corey McKernan. The players we traded to North, I think we had to pay their contracts and then when we traded McKernan we were also forking out cash for his contract. So while he may be contracted and if a trade did occur, we may only have to pay say 200k season 1 with Sydney footing the extra 200k. That could work it's way to us paying the full 400k at the back end of that contract.

Mailman the 2nd

Well obviously Sydney wouldn't facilitate a trade then

kilbluff1985

cant he just quit and go in the draft?

Mat0369

Well if his reported price tag is true, maybe they should not have offered 400k to a guy after playing a few games while also going out and signing two guys to big money long term deals. If it comes down to it and Sydney are hard up for money in the cap, they might not have a choice. 200k off the books is enough to replace him with a decent role player looking for a shot at a premiership on the cheap. If Mitchell is not willing to restructure and wants out, it's not like they have much of a choice. I can think of one Melbourne team with lots of cap room that might come knocking

Mat0369

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on July 22, 2014, 09:30:45 PM
cant he just quit and go in the draft?

He is contracted, if he quits he breaks the contract which brings on other issues.


With our new CEO and history of salary cap cheating I am sure they will find a way to accommodate the money  ::)