Carlton H&A Discussion

[Ricochet]

getting Shiel would be stupid you guys need to trade your first pick for a tall forward or draft one

They also need to look to re-build their midfield with Carrots and Judd near the end

[Mat0369]

I don't have an account on BigFooty but every now and then I go take a look at the Carlton board.

Lots of talk about wanting Dylan Shiel and potentially offering a first rounder.

Who would you guys expect us to target in the off-season? Plus who would the Carlton guys on here want?

I don't have an account either but I am sure 99% of them are huffing glue. Most of what they talk about is complete crap and they are so one eyed it is ridiculous. I would get banned within my first 10 posts

Whoever the best available player is draft wise.

I dont think we should throw too much money at a guy like Patton, he is "potential" atm not output.

What we should do is hava fund raiser then throw the proceeds at "The Chief" to work with Casboult's set shot.

I wouldn't do the trade of Patton for our first round pick just because he has had so many knee issues. I doubt the Giants would take our 2nd and a player for him but if it is true that Cameron won't resign and would want to come to Victoria I have no issues sending whatever it takes to get that trade done. Obviously a couple of guys are off limits (Hendo to name one), but I would be tempted to send over Kreuz and our first for Cameron and their 3rd.

Bring in BT, he worked with Fev on his set shot and it is amazing how good he is at teaching players how to kick at goal properly

They also need to look to re-build their midfield with Carrots and Judd near the end

We have a few similar players in our reserves that can come in, Bell, Graham and Cachia are all inside guys, Cachia is a pretty good tagger but Curnow will be Carlton's tagger of the future. Obviously none are the quality of Judd or Carrots, but they should be handy in the future. I would rather stock up on key position guys this year in what is supposed to be a deep draft and then pick up midfielders in the next two as they don't take as much time to develop.

[kilbluff1985]

Yeah you need a tall develop to start developing now you can always pick up AFL ready mids a bit later in the draft if your smart

[Mat0369]

Plus the big guys take a bit longer to develop, unless you can get one that has been in the system for a few years which I doubt, you need to take one this year and give them time to develop

[Vinny]

Yeah thought so, there was talk about trying to get Wines, most of them are delusional.

I actually would not mind Patton, he is potential but so is any other draftee that we would take with our pick.

Kreuzer could be very powerful trade bait but it does not leave us with much if we had to rely on Warnock if he went down. Just Cam Wood then a couple forwards that could pinch is risky.

Lucas should go. I'm curious to see what type of interest Waite would get it. I think he is past it, he is getting too old so maybe a year elsewhere could do him good. Might just be me being frustrated with him but I don't know.

I do not think our midfield is completely done either.

Gibbs and Murphy are still improving. Simpson IMO can go for 3 more years at least. Cachia, Graham, Bell, Cripps could all be solid. We need another gun though to replace Juddy. But yeah KPP first seems important. Especially with Waite being done and Levi not being able to kick to save his life.

[Master Q]

Kreuzer could be very powerful trade bait but it does not leave us with much if we had to rely on Warnock if he went down. Just Cam Wood then a couple forwards that could pinch is risky.

You could always draft or sign someone else. Krooz has been on the trade table for a while.

I'm curious to see what type of interest Waite would get it. I think he is past it, he is getting too old so maybe a year elsewhere could do him good. Might just be me being frustrated with him but I don't know.

Waite is worthless and will finish his career with us.

I do not think our midfield is completely done either.

Gibbs and Murphy are still improving. Simpson IMO can go for 3 more years at least. Cachia, Graham, Bell, Cripps could all be solid. We need another gun though to replace Juddy. But yeah KPP first seems important. Especially with Waite being done and Levi not being able to kick to save his life.

Completely agree - forgot to mention Buckley and Curnow! And while Menzel has been great up front he could be a MID in the future.

[Vinny]

Yeah I'd like to see Waite dropped again, if he cannot lift after that, that's gotta be it.

Yep whoops, forgot about Curnow the beast and I like Buckley. Would be nice to see Yaz build a tank to have some more run through the middle but don't want that to screw him over either.

[nrich102]

Patton is ours Carlton >:D

If we do get him he'll probably play 2 mediocre years with us and then go home homesick  :-[

[stew42]

Ooh, ooh, Swans will happily take Kreuz :D

[Mat0369]

Give us Jack :P

[Ziplock]

Give us Jack :P

#brandonjackforkreuz
#goodcallblues
#theswansdontneedanotherfloweringtall

[stew42]

Give us Jack :P

#brandonjackforkreuz
#goodcallblues
#theswansdontneedanotherfloweringtall

Nah, just a specialist ruck. We'll chuck Pyke up fwd, Goodesy will retire, Reid will be an AA backman, all will be good :)
Haha, KJack, pls. BJack, even then, you're pushing it :P

[Vinny]

Omfg I would love to have KJack at Carlton. If only. :'(

JPK, Parker or Tippett wouldn't look too bad in Navy either.  ;)

[Mat0369]

Pfft, Kieren Jack or you get nothing.

[Mailman the 2nd]

While I'm pretty sure you're kidding about Jack, he's from NSW anyway so he won't leave :P

Carlton are really hard to read when it comes to what they need compared to other clubs.

Obviously a tall forward is crucial, but at time you feel like the midfield and defence both need an extra player or two as well.

I don't know about the Free Agents this year, but Patton looks set to have several knee and foot injuries